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Old 30.09.2011, 11:43
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Almost kaking in their pants Boks survived the second half against mighty Samoans and we clinched a deserved victory 13:5. Time to recall and analyze errors of our defense back in retrospect and relax before quarterfinal match against Aussies. Excellent overall result in pool D without dropping a single game. Lekker! Go Bokke, shiver Wallabies! I think we have serious chance here with current squad.

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Old 30.09.2011, 11:58
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As always? Oh you mean once. In 1987.
Was it here or somewhere else I saw this joke?

What do you call an All Black with a RWC winner's medal?



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Looking forward to the Might Scot crushing the pathetic english tomorrow.
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Was it here or somewhere else I saw this joke?

What do you call an All Black with a RWC winner's medal?



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It was on ITV4.........still funny though
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Re: RWC 2011 thread

I'm a big Bok fan, but there is no way that the AB's will be beaten this year.

They are the best team in the world technically by a country mile. And the refs will give them the 50-50 calls, with all the pressure to see them world champs. And don't forget the earthquake.
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I'm a big Bok fan, but there is no way that the AB's will be beaten this year.

They are the best team in the world technically by a country mile. And the refs will give them the 50-50 calls, with all the pressure to see them world champs. And don't forget the earthquake.
Don't talk too soon, I see Carter is now out of the WC. I must admit though, I would have preferred to play them with him still in. On the other hand, with Steyn (Boks) now out, at least the injuries are "evening" out the playing field. I think the Aus game this weekend is gonna be a cracker. Will be interesting to see who is picked on both teams.

I also think the other cracker of a match will be the Wales-Ireland game. Both are looking good, I'm just a little disappointed that they are playing each other already in the QF. Would have preferred to see them playing France and England (kick them out) and then play each other in the semi. Oh well.
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Old 05.10.2011, 11:09
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Rugby World Cup 2011: Jonny Wilkinson to start against France


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugb...n/15179244.stm

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I just don't get it. He is NOT IN FORM... when will the England management work this one out? When they are on the flight back? FFS
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Rugby World Cup 2011: Jonny Wilkinson to start against France


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugb...n/15179244.stm

Where's the groan button when you need it.

I just don't get it. He is NOT IN FORM... when will the England management work this one out? When they are on the flight back? FFS
It's hard not to see your point, but I feel there is a sublime logic to this choice. Johnny will rise again.
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Old 05.10.2011, 11:27
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It's hard not to see your point, but I feel there is a sublime logic to this choice. Johnny will rise again.
I think there's a link between Youngs being crap and Wilko being crap - they both negate each other's talents.

1) Youngs takes 2-3 steps before passing - he was caught out time and time again by the defence, whether scragged or takled or kick charged down

2) Why does he take 2-3 steps? Maybe because JW is so far back from the gain line & BY can't pass far enough?!?

3) JW's tactic against Scotland appeared to be
i) get tackled
ii) try a chip & under (kind of a mix between chip & chase, and over & under) - neither really worked

4) There was a noticeable improvement when Wigglesworth and TF came on - the interplay was much much much quicker possibly because
i) Wigglesworth scoops & passes from inside the base of the scrum
ii) TF is closer making this more possible?
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Old 05.10.2011, 11:32
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Re: RWC 2011 thread

Well I think Young and JW starting is just MJs way of making amends re "ballgate". The French start Yachvili at 9 and Parra at 10 again , so your selection has to be rubbish as well. You know, fair play and all that.
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Old 05.10.2011, 16:32
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I do think Youngs has the edge on Wigglesworth at sniping round the fringes, and I think he is quicker and better kicker. However, that shouldn't take away from the fact that Carlos is right, is delivery is frustratingly pondorous. Rather an important failing for a Srum half .
I think we improved tremendously with Toby against the Sweaties and I too cannot understand Jonno's thinking here, nor putting him in at inside centre (unless it is to have a reliable kicker ).
Having said that, the French are doing a passable impression of their footballing colleagues and I can't see them getting it together before Saturday. So we will win, only to get hammered by the Irish in the semis. Thankfully, I will be on a plane at the time and won't witness the carnage*.


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Re: RWC 2011 thread

Its shaping up to be a pretty good tournament once more, although if France had been sent home that would have been a bonus.

Carter being out gives us NZers plenty of reasons to keep mouths shut and not speak of the semi-final yet, or the final... but I'm hoping Wales make it through to face us there

But hey since when did form mean anything, anyone can win a game come worldcup knockout time.
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Am I the only one to think MJ is a bit doolaly to have only 2 backs on the bench?

It shows jus how stunted he's become in his thinking, and after the sweet whisperings of the matches against Australia, and early 6N, I feel cheated by the return to the duff-em-up for 60 min and hope to nick it in the last 20 tactics of old...
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Shame that England's poor handling let the French control that game. It certainly didn't look like the typical game plan.

Wales v Ireland was exciting. I guess I only watch the Irish when they play the All Blacks or in the World Cup (horrid timezone previously for 6nations games), but I have still yet to see Ronan O'Gara put in a good performance (and yet everyone talks him up). Today he kicked it dead in goal twice and dropped it once cold while close to a try scoring position. Could have a different game without those screwups...

(Perhaps I need to go find a O'Gara's best moments montage video on youtube?)
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Englishman, Irishman and a Scotsman walk into a pub.
To watch WALES play in the semi final!
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...duff-em-up for 60 min and hope to nick it in the last 20 tactics of old...
...and that's what happens when you play a team that's better than you...

You lose.

Shocking.
1) JW should not have been 1st choice
2) Youngs should not have been 1st choice
3) Easter should not have been 1st choice
4) Stevens should not have been 1st choice
5) The fact that Hape was not included shows what a mistake MJ made in picking his backs (to take to NZ), but at least with Banahan we might have done better with him at 12 and someone with quicker delivery at 9 and Flood at 10.

When your 8-9-10 is wrong, how the F do you expect to win against a French team fired up to play England? A team who have been baited all week by being told England have their measure, after all, look at past results...

Congrats to the French, Welsh, Ausies and NZ, although from the French reaction, I have the feeling that this was their "final". I seem to recall in years past, they've put in a stellar performance only to flounce in the next match...

*ahem* go Wales?
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Re: RWC 2011 thread

Hi Chaps,

Ok i really need to get some neutral opinion (even an Aussie opinion, i don't mind) on the Bok vs Aus game.

Firstly, let me start off by saying congrats to the Aussies. Well done. Secondly, congrats to the Welsh, French and Kiwi's! In particular, the Welsh, who are playing exceptional rugby.

But I need to get an opinion on what everyone thinks of Bryce Lawrence's performance in the Boks vs Aus game? I personally don't think he is biased, he just seems to have no idea about the rules of the breakdown and other things (which could have gone the Boks way, had they: 1) had Brussow on for the whole match and, 2) had possession been more 50/50). To be specific, his "interpretation" of the laws seems to favour the defending team.

I really don't want this to degrade into a "sourgrapes", "it was the refs fault we lost" type of thing. I respect the outcome and wish the Aussies all the best, as their strategy ultimately allowed them to win (they anticipated a shambles at the breakdown and used it). But it is a bitter pill to swallow, considering the stats. Would have been ok had the Boks been outplayed.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rug...th-Africa.html

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Hi Chaps,

Ok i really need to get some neutral opinion (even an Aussie opinion, i don't mind) on the Bok vs Aus game.

Firstly, let me start off by saying congrats to the Aussies. Well done. Secondly, congrats to the Welsh, French and Kiwi's! In particular, the Welsh, who are playing exceptional rugby.

But I need to get an opinion on what everyone thinks of Bryce Lawrence's performance in the Boks vs Aus game? I personally don't think he is biased, he just seems to have no idea about the rules of the breakdown and other things (which could have gone the Boks way, had they: 1) had Brussow on for the whole match and, 2) had possession been more 50/50). To be specific, his "interpretation" of the laws seems to favour the defending team.

I really don't want this to degrade into a "sourgrapes", "it was the refs fault we lost" type of thing. I respect the outcome and wish the Aussies all the best, as their strategy ultimately allowed them to win (they anticipated a shambles at the breakdown and used it). But it is a bitter pill to swallow, considering the stats. Would have been ok had the Boks been outplayed.
Ask England about "Bryce Lawrence and the breakdown". I think he's one of those referees, that if you get on his wrong side early doors, he'll penalise you for anything thereafter.
I don't see how SA manahed to throw that one away though, they were by far the more inventive and penetrative of the two teams, yet came away with nothing. Whereas some of the Aus handling was comical at times, yet it was they scored the try and came out with the W at the end. Their defence was outstanding though, I could almost feel some of those tackles. I did think the winning penalty was borderline though, I've seen a lot worse at lineouts. Yes there was initial contact, as you'd expect if competing for the lineout ball, but he hardly pulled him down.
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Re: RWC 2011 thread

I have to agree with you that the ref had a particularly bad day.
It's not so much what he did but what he didn't do.Particularly every time
South Africa got close to the Australian tryline they where illegally
turning the ball over.
Also at the end there were quite a few high tackles on South African players which were not penalised.
We all knew this was gonna be really close and then small decisions make
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