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Old 09.03.2011, 10:45
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Re: Busacca : when will he learn that he is not the centre of a football game

"fun" fact from the blick...Busacca/spanish team have a great "not losing" streak. It's now 30 consecutive games, 23 wins and 7 remis...some might smell a conspiracy. I don't really care, but thought this is the right thread
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Old 09.03.2011, 11:06
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Fair comment - but Arsenal had 1 shot on target! Barca had about a gazillion. So the result wasn't really unjust
But football isn't decided on how many shots are on target. I don't go along with the idea, often heard, that some terrible decision doesn't matter because one of the sides 'deserved' to win.

And this was an appalling decision. It's hard not to agree with Wenger that the decision was "embarrassing". Ask yourself this question: Would Messi have been sent off in the same situation? You know the answer to that.

Football is driven by events, and the ebb and flow of games changes all the time, based on unpredictable events. Take the Germany-England game in the World Cup in South Africa. As everyone knows, Lampard scored for England just before half time, but the ref didn't see it cross the line, so it wasn't allowed. People say that in the end, it didn't matter, because England played badly and so 'deserved' to be eliminated. But had the goal been allowed, meaning England coming back from 0-2 to 2-2 right on half time, who knows what effect that might have had on the rest of the game? We can't pretend that these things don't matter. It might have galvanised England, in the same way that the last-minute victory over Belgium suddenly woke up England in Italia 90, after a very poor start to the tournament.

Coming back to Barca-Arsenal, it's impossible to say what effect Van Persie might have had on the game if he'd stayed on. Instead, all Arsenal could hope to do was contain Barca, and as we know, couldn't do it with 10 men.

We can pull out as many stats as we want, but here's a simple one - Arsenal beat Barca in the first match, and were drawing 1-1 in the 2nd match until 70 minutes, after they'd been reduced to 10 men.

Barcelona are a fantastic side and had most of the possession in this game, but good as they are, they couldn't beat Arsenal on a level playing field.

And no, I'm not an Arsenal fan!
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But had the goal been allowed, meaning England coming back from 0-2 to 2-2 right on half time, who knows what effect that might have had on the rest of the game?
Coming back to Barca-Arsenal, it's impossible to say what effect Van Persie might have had on the game if he'd stayed on. Instead, all Arsenal could hope to do was contain Barca, and as we know, couldn't do it with 10 men.
Agreed. Germany was very good at counter-attacks. Had it been 2-2, they would themselves need to chase a goal and be susceptible to counter attacks.
Germany got a fluke early goal in the next game too (can't remember against whom), after which, they just needed to wait and counter attack and scored 4 goals again. I think they were good, but they were also quite lucky.

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We can pull out as many stats as we want, but here's a simple one - Arsenal beat Barca in the first match, and were drawing 1-1 in the 2nd match until 70 minutes, after they'd been reduced to 10 men.

The pattern in the first game was almost repeating itself. Barca cannot possibly play that high pressing game for 90 minutes. They got tired towards the end in first match and lost the game. In the second game, you can also see that they were not pressing as hard anymore just before the red card. I doubt they would have completely dominated the final 30 minutes of the match and scored 2 goals if Arsenal had 11 men. The first game proved that they could not keep it up for the whole match. I don't support Barca or Arsenal, but the ref ruined what would have been a great final 30 minutes.
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Read this....for those who think Referees are always objective...



GENEVA (AP)—FIFA launched disciplinary proceedings on Thursday against six match officials suspected of helping to fix two international games in a betting scam.
Football’s governing body said the games were the Bolivia vs. Latvia and Estonia vs. Bulgaria friendlies played in the Turkish city of Antalya on Feb. 9. All seven goals in the two matches were scored from penalty kicks.
“The proceedings were opened following an evaluation of all documentation and information received by FIFA, in relation to a possible match-fixing situation in these matches,” FIFA said in a statement. FIFA said no date has been set for its disciplinary committee to hear the cases.
Privacy rules meant FIFA would not the identify the officials or their nationality, it said.
Last month, Hungary’s football federation said it had suspended officials Kolos Lengyel, Krisztian Selmeczi and Janos Csak for handling the Estonia vs. Bulgaria game without permission.
Suspicions were raised when refereeing decisions were responsible for all the goals as Latvia beat Bolivia 2-1 and Estonia and Bulgaria played out a 2-2 draw. One of the penalties was ordered to be retaken after the initial spot kick was missed.
The games were played in a near-empty Antalya stadium with meager television coverage, adding to concerns that organizers intended to profit from placing bets on fixed outcomes.
German magazine Stern reported Wednesday that data obtained from betting operators showed at least ?5 million ($6.9 million) was wagered on the Estonia vs. Bulgaria match.
Officials from all four national teams complained to FIFA, with the Bolivia federation asking FIFA President Sepp Blatter for “an exhaustive investigation.” Bolivia also canceled its scheduled return visit to Turkey this month for matches against Finland and Bulgaria.
FIFA asked the federations for their observations to help in its investigation.
The games were organized, and the match officials chosen, by a Thailand-based agency called Footy Sport International which used a FIFA-licensed agent from Russia to arrange the doubleheader. FIFA rules state that only authorized agents can arrange games between teams from different continents.
National teams often use agencies to arrange friendly matches and are free to choose their opponents and play in a neutral country.
The affair has prompted FIFA to propose that organizers must give two months’ notice of referee appointments for international matches involving national or club teams, and that it would veto suspect assignments.
“There will be new regulations for these international matches which are mostly … organized only for betting reasons,” Blatter said last Thursday after a meeting of his executive committee.
Blatter said FIFA legal director Marco Villiger has joined an International Olympic Committee working group that is helping coordinate world sports’ crackdown on match-fixing and corrupt betting.
Last September, a fake Togo team lost 3-0 to Bahrain in a friendly arranged by a match agent with Singapore connections.
Neither national team filed a complaint, despite suspicions that the host Bahrainis were duped into playing a game they were certain to easily win. The Togo federation banned one of its coaches for his role in the affair.
Zimbabwe’s federation fired its former chief executive, Henriatta Rushwaya, and is considering sanctions against players who admitted throwing matches on a national team tour of Thailand and Malaysia in December 2009.
Players said they received instructions at halftime to ensure the correct results were achieved for the types of wagers that had been staked.
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GENEVA (AP)—FIFA launched disciplinary proceedings on Thursday against six match officials suspected of helping to fix two international games in a betting scam.
Football’s governing body said the games were the Bolivia vs. Latvia and Estonia vs. Bulgaria friendlies played in the Turkish city of Antalya on Feb. 9. All seven goals in the two matches were scored from penalty kicks.
“The proceedings were opened following an evaluation of all documentation and information received by FIFA, in relation to a possible match-fixing situation in these matches,” FIFA said in a statement. FIFA said no date has been set for its disciplinary committee to hear the cases.
Privacy rules meant FIFA would not the identify the officials or their nationality, it said.
Last month, Hungary’s football federation said it had suspended officials Kolos Lengyel, Krisztian Selmeczi and Janos Csak for handling the Estonia vs. Bulgaria game without permission.
Suspicions were raised when refereeing decisions were responsible for all the goals as Latvia beat Bolivia 2-1 and Estonia and Bulgaria played out a 2-2 draw. One of the penalties was ordered to be retaken after the initial spot kick was missed.
The games were played in a near-empty Antalya stadium with meager television coverage, adding to concerns that organizers intended to profit from placing bets on fixed outcomes.
German magazine Stern reported Wednesday that data obtained from betting operators showed at least ?5 million ($6.9 million) was wagered on the Estonia vs. Bulgaria match.
Officials from all four national teams complained to FIFA, with the Bolivia federation asking FIFA President Sepp Blatter for “an exhaustive investigation.” Bolivia also canceled its scheduled return visit to Turkey this month for matches against Finland and Bulgaria.
FIFA asked the federations for their observations to help in its investigation.
The games were organized, and the match officials chosen, by a Thailand-based agency called Footy Sport International which used a FIFA-licensed agent from Russia to arrange the doubleheader. FIFA rules state that only authorized agents can arrange games between teams from different continents.
National teams often use agencies to arrange friendly matches and are free to choose their opponents and play in a neutral country.
The affair has prompted FIFA to propose that organizers must give two months’ notice of referee appointments for international matches involving national or club teams, and that it would veto suspect assignments.
“There will be new regulations for these international matches which are mostly … organized only for betting reasons,” Blatter said last Thursday after a meeting of his executive committee.
Blatter said FIFA legal director Marco Villiger has joined an International Olympic Committee working group that is helping coordinate world sports’ crackdown on match-fixing and corrupt betting.
Last September, a fake Togo team lost 3-0 to Bahrain in a friendly arranged by a match agent with Singapore connections.
Neither national team filed a complaint, despite suspicions that the host Bahrainis were duped into playing a game they were certain to easily win. The Togo federation banned one of its coaches for his role in the affair.
Zimbabwe’s federation fired its former chief executive, Henriatta Rushwaya, and is considering sanctions against players who admitted throwing matches on a national team tour of Thailand and Malaysia in December 2009.
Players said they received instructions at halftime to ensure the correct results were achieved for the types of wagers that had been staked.
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Re: Busacca : when will he learn that he is not the centre of a football game

Wenger calls UEFA dictatorship, wants humility


http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?...landwengeruefa
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