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21.08.2011, 10:51
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Since all our EF's from the sub-continent are quiet on this subject I thought I would raise it 
England have completely outplayed India in all departments!! The Indian team have been very poor , with the exception of Dravid no batsman has performed at all. Their fielding has been lamentable and Dhoni behind the stumps has been just a "stopper". In contrast Englands performance has been superb in all aspects of the game and are now rightly No1 in the world. It has been a pleasure to watch England dismantling India and grinding them into the ground!!! | 
21.08.2011, 11:24
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It's a joy!
I've enjoyed reading all the articles about how they went from being number 6 in the rankings to number 1 in two and a half years. Incremental progress, teamwork, a strong team ethic, doing the right things... It's amazing.
But India are a shambles. The team that won the world cup was sensational. Who are these guys?
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21.08.2011, 11:32
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| | Re: England versus India - whitewash!! | Quote: | |  | | | It's a joy!
I've enjoyed reading all the articles about how they went from being number 6 in the rankings to number 1 in two and a half years. Incremental progress, teamwork, a strong team ethic, doing the right things... It's amazing.
But India are a shambles. The team that won the world cup was sensational. Who are these guys? | | | | | the team that was sent home early from the world cup was a bunch of hopeless men ..who are these guys ? | 
22.08.2011, 19:53
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Genuine shame that Tendulkar didn't get the nine runs to make his 100th century....would have been great to see and I think his ovation would have been memorable...
Apart from England being superb though, how possibly were India the number 2 team in the world?? | 
22.08.2011, 20:02
| | Re: England versus India - whitewash!! | Quote: | |  | | | It's a joy!
I've enjoyed reading all the articles about how they went from being number 6 in the rankings to number 1 in two and a half years. Incremental progress, teamwork, a strong team ethic, doing the right things... It's amazing.
But India are a shambles. The team that won the world cup was sensational. Who are these guys? | | | | | You can't compare a one day side to a test side.
India were awful though. Made England look a lot better than they are IMO. They probably scored more double centuries in this series than in the last decade.
I'm just looking forward to England going to some shitty teams country and being brought down to earth. A la their tour to Pakistan after winning the 2005 ashes.
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22.08.2011, 21:40
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They're in Pakistan next. With the competition for places, it's unlikely they'll take the foot off the pedal.
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22.08.2011, 22:45
| | Re: England versus India - whitewash!! | Quote: | |  | | | They're in Pakistan next. With the competition for places, it's unlikely they'll take the foot off the pedal. | | | | | They're in Abu dhabi and Dubai I think. Regardless Pakistan don't have the home advantage of the visiting side being scared they will get suicide bombed | 
22.08.2011, 22:58
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| | Re: England versus India - whitewash!! | Quote: | |  | | | You can't compare a one day side to a test side.
India were awful though. Made England look a lot better than they are IMO. They probably scored more double centuries in this series than in the last decade.
I'm just looking forward to England going to some shitty teams country and being brought down to earth. A la their tour to Pakistan after winning the 2005 ashes. | | | | | England are a different prospect now compared to the team of 2005. Far more cohesive and a far better team spirit and philosophy. If one player fails, there are 2 or 3 to step up to the mark. With half a dozen guys ready to jump in should anyone be injured, they should be a force to reckon with for a few years to come. We have batsmen who can score and a really hungry pack of bowlers. Life is good  .
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22.08.2011, 23:04
| | Re: England versus India - whitewash!! | Quote: | |  | | | England are a different prospect now compared to the team of 2005. Far more cohesive and a far better team spirit and philosophy. If one player fails, there are 2 or 3 to step up to the mark. With half a dozen guys ready to jump in should anyone be injured, they should be a force to reckon with for a few years to come. We have batsmen who can score and a really hungry pack of bowlers. Life is good . | | | | | England beating the Aus side back then was a far bigger achievement than the whitewash of the current India team.
The current India team has been ruined by the IPL. Do the Indian players care? Not when they are getting paid that much no.
PS I'm not Indian. I'm just trying to be objective. The England team is good for sure...made to look a lot better by a poor Indian side playing away from home.
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17.10.2011, 17:53
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Not doing so well away from home | 
17.10.2011, 18:40
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| | Re: England versus India - whitewash!! | Quote: | |  | | | Not doing so well away from home  | | | | |  lovin it....
guess its time for role reversal again. | 
17.10.2011, 18:57
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| | Re: England versus India - whitewash!! | Quote: | |  | | | England beating the Aus side back then was a far bigger achievement than the whitewash of the current India team.
The current India team has been ruined by the IPL. Do the Indian players care? Not when they are getting paid that much no.
PS I'm not Indian. I'm just trying to be objective. The England team is good for sure...made to look a lot better by a poor Indian side playing away from home. | | | | | More than the Indian players, its the Indian board which needs to be blamed for the crazy schedule which makes the players play as if they are robots.
The board didn't allow even the World Cup victory to sink in, neither for the fans nor the players. The IPL started just within a week of the World Cup victory.
The IPL is the Indian board tournament and whilst a player can opt out, it can be held against him. Especially if he happens to be a top star. E.g. just look at what Mahindra Singh Dhoni had to go through to keep his IPL masters (Chennai Super Kings, run by the present Chief of the Board) happy. Dhoni went to SA, then came back and played the WC then immediately the IPL (almost two months non-stop), then somehow managed to avoid the ODI series in West Indies but played the Test series there and then the entire English tour. Within a couple of days of coming back from England, he was captaining the Chennai Supper Kings in the Champions League. The guy must have been so tired and jaded physically and mentally that he termed CSK's loss in the preliminary rounds of the Champions League as a "blessing in disguise". This, from a proud Captain having taken the same team to victory thrice (I think. Two IPL titles and one Champions League title). One can imagine how bad it must have been for him.
This has been the same story with almost every top player. The Indian players do care but do not want to antagonise the Board, since the playing careers are short and the competition to get in to the national team intense. If one opts out (unless forced by injury) for rest etc. the fear of not getting back again is intense.
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20.10.2011, 20:20
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Seems like a long time ago that I started this thread!! | 
21.10.2011, 00:25
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| | Re: England versus India - whitewash!! | Quote: | |  | | | and Dhoni Does it Again ............. Pressure or no Pressure...... too much Cricket or not........... yipeeeeee   | | | | | Dont forget, it was Rahane, Patel and Gambhir who started it today and Dhoni finished it in style with Jadeja. Great show. It 3-0 right now. Lets hope its gets better in the remaining two
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21.10.2011, 11:44
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| | Re: England versus India - whitewash!! | Quote: | |  | | | Dont forget, it was Rahane, Patel and Gambhir who started it today and Dhoni finished it in style with Jadeja. Great show. It 3-0 right now. Lets hope its gets better in the remaining two | | | | | u bet........ i hope this will be a 5-0 whitewash......
and no doubt. the top order was just fabulous | 
21.10.2011, 12:04
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Oh and just to add its 3-0, without Sachin, Sehwag, Yuvraj, Zaheer, Munaf, Rohit Sharma, Harbhajan, Nehra.
No matter what happens in rest of the series...this series win was very important for Team India specially against the sa  me opposition.
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21.10.2011, 12:06
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First the English were getting way ahead of themselves and talking up the team now it's the Indian's turn?
Never underestimate the power of a home advantage.
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21.10.2011, 12:06
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| | Re: England versus India - whitewash!! | Quote: | |  | | | Oh and just to add its 3-0, because Sachin, Sehwag, Yuvraj, Zaheer, Munaf, Rohit Sharma, Harbhajan, Nehra aren't playing. | | | | | Fixed that for you.
Maybe the new guys all have yet to give their mobile numbers to Mr. Big from Mumbai...
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21.10.2011, 13:28
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| | Re: England versus India - whitewash!! | Quote: | |  | | | Fixed that for you.
Maybe the new guys all have yet to give their mobile numbers to Mr. Big from Mumbai... | | | | | So you mean to say England won the Test and ODI series recently because of Mr. Big from Mumbai. Damm and I thought England team played well after ages....I should have known their losing habits in Cricket, Football and Rugby are hard to die  After 3-0, definitely the English fans feel like Home.
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