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Re: England v SA (Cricket)

Good old England, blast from the past there: England looking to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Bell back to his old self... Bopra unable to bring his short-game form to the Test arena. SA right back in the game.

As always every pundit has written off SA after yesterday. As ever, wait 'til the half way mark before making prognoses.
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Old 20.07.2012, 14:52
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Re: England v SA (Cricket)

Broad and Prior in now, could be some fireworks. Or could be a short-lived damp squib.
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Old 20.07.2012, 14:58
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Broad and Prior in now, could be some fireworks. Or could be a short-lived damp squib.
I've always maintained - to those who pronounce a test won during or at the end the first innings - that you can't possibly tell what the outcome might be until at least both teams have had a go with bat and ball, i.e. then end of the "first half" if you will.

Too often have we seen England bowl a team out in the first innings then been made to follow-on when chasing a paltry total. Or, as in this case, have a first good day and bad second. Yet commentators continue to feel they can make a judgement at the end of the first day of a 5-day sporting event.

If it was that easy, then why bother playing 4 innings over 5 days?



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Old 20.07.2012, 16:22
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Re: England v SA (Cricket)

Would be good if they could limp to 400 by tea... but with 0 wickets remaining...
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Broad and Prior in now, could be some fireworks. Or could be a short-lived damp squib.
Yupp. Seems like the latter.
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Old 20.07.2012, 16:28
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Re: England v SA (Cricket)

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Prior still going strong though. 420ish would be a handy 1st innings.

Edit: OK, maybe not. Lets see what damage the England bowlers can dow then...

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Re: England v SA (Cricket)

It's a fascinating test... interesting to see how England bowl now.
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It's a fascinating test... interesting to see how England bowl now.
Looks like Anderson got a good start.
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Re: England v SA (Cricket)

Looks like (in this test) SA have the better bowlers and batsmen.



Can't see them lasting a day.

How long 'til the Olympics again...?
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Re: England v SA (Cricket)

Yeah. Sigh.
Is this how it feels to be Australian?
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Re: England v SA (Cricket)

Well, that all went completely tits-up very quickly, didn't it?
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Re: England v SA (Cricket)

Oops!
Painful to watch.
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Old 23.07.2012, 12:07
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Yeah. Sigh.
Is this how it feels to be Australian?
At least they had a bit longer to enjoy the feeling...
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Re: England v SA (Cricket)

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The problem with a lot of British sport is the hype by the media... It simply destroys every good sportsman out there by making them believe that they are the conqueror of the world.. In reality, they have ups and downs.. See what the media did to most of the footballers (the prime reason why England have won nothing worthwhile in football).. Same goes to cricket.. (england beat the aussies and england are best in the world).. Now the same team are getting branded with hot iron by the Saffas... Damn the Media... Damn them all.... Damn them for spoiling good people.. Damn them for causing so much chaos for the sake of sensationalism...

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Re: England v SA (Cricket)

It's going to be South Africa all the way.. my prediction 2-0 SA!
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The problem with a lot of British sport is the hype by the media... It simply destroys every good sportsman out there by making them believe that they are the conqueror of the world.. In reality, they have ups and downs.. See what the media did to most of the footballers (the prime reason why England have won nothing worthwhile in football).. Same goes to cricket.. (england beat the aussies and england are best in the world).. Now the same team are getting branded with hot iron by the Saffas... Damn the Media... Damn them all.... Damn them for spoiling good people.. Damn them for causing so much chaos for the sake of sensationalism...

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Yein.

England Test team is ranked #1 (for now!)
T20 team is ranked #1 and are World Champions

IF the summer had been nicer, England would (likely) be ranked #1 in 50 overs too.

So while, I can see your point, I am not in that much agreement. The England cricket team are very good - although being made to look pedestrian by this SA outfit.

Also, England have not achieved anything in football, not because of the media, but because the are and have for a while been complete and utter pants.
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Re: England v SA (Cricket)

Ahem.. I know that they are pants.. But every time they are up for a big tourney, the hype generated by the media is a bit over the top... Otherwise, how come an ordinary player like Beckham (meaning he is a decently good player not great) and Wayne Spooney are instant celebrities? At least the English cricket team has a smaller number of prima donnas (read KPP) and are good (not great like the Windies of 80s and Aussies of early 2000s)... The hype though is a bit unbearable...
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Re: England v SA (Cricket)

Everything Ive read about this test series from anyone who played the game (for England) has been very balanced and excited looking to this test series. Maybe over rating England a little bit (based on first 4 days) but certainly not typical media hype.

England at cricket are no 1 in the world JUST and Sth Africa are the legitimate contenders to the thrown. Its going to be a great series and if South Africa beat England in England they thoroughly deserve no 1 spot. England are not dominant like WI or Australia before them YET. There loss to Pakistan and if they lost this series would show there is still some work to do.

England at football are crap and have been crap for years. The problem is deep rooted and while the media hysterics dont help they are certainly not the root cause.

Beckham was a good but not world class player. Great engine, good crosser and fee kick taker. World class marketing and a pretty face (his not Poshes) and his relationship with Posh in the early days is what has made him the brand he is today.

Americans naively thought he was the best player in the world when he signed up for MLS. I attended the first time he played in NY and he turned a regular attendance of 15,000 into a jammed packed stadium of 80,000. World class marketing.

England might see this through. 0-0 would be a big "win" for the pommes
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Re: England v SA (Cricket)

I hit submit 3 seconds before Prior got out. Less likely now.
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Re: England v SA (Cricket)

Just as England seemed to be going well... Prior sweeps himself out.

On Test Match Special the commentary team had been talking about how England had resisted the sweep and the very next ball - sweep - out.

SA deservedly on top but England have thrown away a few wickets. Annoying!
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