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View Poll Results: Will Roger be able to defeat Nadal this year (US Open)?
Yes, sure he will bounce back and beat Nadal 24 36.92%
Maybe, it is only 50-50 chance for either player 19 29.23%
This is hard, he will not likely be able to defeat Nadal 13 20.00%
No way, Nadal is way too strong for him 9 13.85%
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Roger Federer: is it all over for him?

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I followed Roger Federer very closely this year, since his loss at Australian Open.

I also watched him being destroyed at French Open.

Last week, we saw him struggle and seemingly awed over by the strong Spaniard Pitbull Nadal. And in the end, he lost after an "epic" fight.

Olympics is coming and so is US Open.

Now the big question in the tennis world is: will Roger still "have it" or can he recover to win over Nadal?
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Old 08.07.2008, 20:50
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Re: Roger Federer: is it all over for him?


both the Olympics & the US Open are on hard surfaces ... Nadal's power & quickness should see him through.
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Re: Roger Federer: is it all over for him?

If you look at the Wimby final it was Roger who lost it in the head rather than Nadal outplaying him. Taking nothing away from Nadal's victory as he is an awesome player and current No.1 in my book. Federer's unforced error count was just insane.

Nadal has got his number though. If you take Nadal out then there is no one to challenge Federer so it's not really over for Federer yet. I think Federer has 3 more grand slam titles in him + one more Wimby title.
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Re: Roger Federer: is it all over for him?

I think it's fortunate that Nadal finally got a Wimbeldon championship. However, he's not very durable and tends to get injured. It cost him Wimbeldon last year. Even this year, there were plenty of aces that Federer served up that Nadal should have been able to return but didn't.
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Re: Roger Federer: is it all over for him?

Innocent until proven guilty but his stamina is almost super human. Federer Djokovic etc look tired but Nadal just keeps going like Duracell bunny.
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Nadal just keeps going like Duracell bunny.
jealousy Timothy ....

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jealousy Timothy ....

Not really as none of those rich f**kers give me % of their winnings I just remember something from 2006 about Nadal being with Spanish doctor that got done over for supplying cyclists and other sportsmen. Drug takers also get injured more. It's a dirty world out there bruva.

NADAL DISMISSES DRUGS RUMOURS
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Re: Roger Federer: is it all over for him?

Given track record of both players and their potential I would say that Federer is all around player on any type of surface and he definitely outplays Nadal on hard court. On the other hand, Nadal is king of clay and started dramatically improve on the grass which has been proven by his recent victory at the Wimbledon.

When it comes to hard court US Open or Australian Open nad the Olimpics I think that Federer and Djokovic would be in the lead. Also consider such players as Nalbadian, Ferrer and Roddick.

Enough said about increadible Nadal and his phenomenal 2008 starter but I sincerely think that Federer will still be around with more victories to come during the season

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Re: Roger Federer: is it all over for him?

Although we can only try to imagine what is going on in Federer's mind now, he must be so disappointed and shocked at his own stats of unforced and unconvertible breakpoints.

He is going after the Olympic Gold before he turns 30 (which may mean he is going to face even more Nadals then).

Right after the Beijing Games, it will be US Open (Both are hard courts).
It will be interesting to see how Nadal performs or prepares for US Open.
(Anyone knows if he is playing Beijing?)

I am sure he wants to win US Open to prove again he is "the best". No doubt he is the current best player. But he has injured his right knee?

On drugs?
I think he has a natural high, and he is only 22.
Come on.
Not everyone wins or jumps around, punching the air with his fist, is on drugs. I am not.

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Old 08.07.2008, 22:09
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It will be interesting to see how Nadal performs or prepares for US Open.
(Anyone knows if he is playing Beijing?)...

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Federer for sure to rise his spirit: http://www.chinapost.com.tw/sports/t...ederer-and.htm

and I guess Nadal doesn't wanna loose opportunity to meet head in head again:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/030120...-olympics.html

Looking forward more good tennis to come
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Re: Roger Federer: is it all over for him?

I didn't realize that Nadal got a mention in the Dr. Fuentes drug scandal. Given his muscles and staying power, I regard it as highly probable that he is on testosterone, human growth hormone, EPO, etc. The usual cocktail. That's totally unprovable, at the moment.

Looks like the spanish judge will soon bury the smoking guns from the raid on Fuentes' premises, specifically all the blood bags that could be traced back directly using DNA testing. A damned shame, as it would clear Nadal's name of those unjustified accusations or not...
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Re: Roger Federer: is it all over for him?

I sounds like a nonsense to me. People like making up stories...

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...8110113AAniysp

http://www.sportinglife.com/story_ge...dal_Drugs.html
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Re: Roger Federer: is it all over for him?

I once had a chat with Roger in a physiotherapists waiting room in Basel.
Very nice chap.

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Re: Roger Federer: is it all over for him?

This is the first real test that Federer has had as a champion, and the greatest champions have great rivals. The 'Golden Age' of tennis had Borg/McEnroe/Connors and was followed by several other top players ie Lendl, Becker, Edberg, Wilander. Great rivalries during the 70's-80's.

Federer needs to take a hard look at his game and commit to making a fwe changes. I heard an interesting point during Wimbledon that Federer's ball trajectory on serve had changed since his first Wimpledon...a bit slower and more spin. This seems to have hurt him a bit. Plus, he made a LOT of unforced errors. Seems to me that Nadal had affected his mental state.

It is probably time for a coach like Brad Gilbert to get him back on track. I think he can still win major's, but Nadal has shown that he belongs there, too.

Now, if Safin can tame his mental state and Djokovic matures a bit, we could have a new 'Golden Age!'
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Re: Roger Federer: is it all over for him?

I like Roger but I'm not ready for him to surpass Pistol Pete Sampras. Roger seemed to have some success last Sunday with the serve and volley. Why didn't he come to the net more often? The serve and volley served Sampras well.
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Re: Roger Federer: is it all over for him?

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Federer needs to take a hard look at his game and commit to making a fwe changes. I heard an interesting point during Wimbledon that Federer's ball trajectory on serve had changed since his first Wimpledon...a bit slower and more spin. This seems to have hurt him a bit. Plus, he made a LOT of unforced errors. Seems to me that Nadal had affected his mental state.
I believe Roger needs to get over the shock and awe which he holds for Rafael.

Rafael is good, very good, but I still think he is not as elegant and good to watch, like Federer.

Federer needs to be a little more aggressive when playing Nadal, but at the same time, I noticed whenever Roger mis-hits or hits softer than normal, Rafael hits the ball into the net or out. So maybe he needs to readjust his pace with Nadal.

Therefore I would even propose to him, (if not someone already did), is not to hit his head against the brick wall, but use some tactics and even moderate the pace during a point, so that this guy's rhythm goes out of whack.
This usually works for me, when I play a strong hitter.

Bam bam bam... Nadal always answer back harder and harder.
So drop shots more, change the pace, hit wider.
Of course, it is easier said than done. There are many other factors to consider when playing. Sometimes there is simply no time to react.

But at Federer's level, I think this should be within his reasonable means.
I sure look forward to their next match, and hopefully Roger can beat him.
Otherwise, it is just no more fun to watch the Spaniard Pitbull.

Main thing is: Roger is AFRAID of Nadal. Actually he does not "have to".


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I like Roger but I'm not ready for him to surpass Pistol Pete Sampras. Roger seemed to have some success last Sunday with the serve and volley. Why didn't he come to the net more often? The serve and volley served Sampras well.
Hindsight is 360 and 100%.
Roger could not, would not, because Nadal is very good at making passing shots.

Or maybe he was conserving energy?
He may not look tired, but Federer is not built like Nadal.
However, medically and scientifically, Federer may be more body efficient than Nadal, who has more muscles (heavier).

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Re: Roger Federer: is it all over for him?

In my opinion Nadal together on the helm with Wiliams sisters introduces new era of heavy topspin and powerful tennis. I wouldn't be surprised if in the future you will see more bodybuilder type of players who use muscles to make a ball fly with impossible speed and force which both common folk cannot generate.

The rackets technology also constantly changes which plays important role in the game, aerodynamics, large sweet spot and other hype-adding goodies...
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Jacek yahoo answers is bad for internet street rep The other link I had already posted The point is that IF Nadal was doing blood transfusion stuff or on some drug cocktail then he would hardly come out and inform everyone. His injuries have been very suspicious as well. I will give him credit but keep an open mind as too many athletes and tennis players have been caught in recent times.

Read the posts at the bottom of this link. They had a nice debate going on.

Hope Federer comes back with a BANG!
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Re: Roger Federer: is it all over for him?

Aw come on. The guy's won 5 Wimbledons in a row, and he's looked jaded all year. That was not the real Federer who played last weekend. Ye of little faith. What is it that they say: class is permanent, form is temporary. Nadal is about to find out what it's like to get the rest of 'em gunning for you. He will not last the course...
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