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250,000 is not the fine for not attending press conference, this is his prize money won at the tournament thusfar. Not sure he really needs to care about the 'same fan base', nor that attending useless hypocritical press conferences would make any difference.

he made his statement loud enough by not attending another bs event after all that has happened. a good decision, in my view.
In the mind of the guy, it's a protest. For the tournament organizers and sports press couldn't be more grateful of the childish tantrum. It's good for the show to have good and bad characters. The guy is excelling at playing the baddie, consciously or not, and the audience wants more drama.

Back to tennis, it is literally a country club sport and such behavior is expected. It is what it is.

From a personal point of view, I just remember the words of coaches long time ago when I was a teenager/young adult. Yes, you're fit, strong and capable but must be also aware of how much damage you can do and act responsibly.......so strong guys/pro athletes have the opportunity to train themselves and almost become superhuman, they have the duty to use those capabilities responsibly. There must be not accidents, because their accidents or just letting go have much worse consequences than the accidents of the rest of people.
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He hit the ball, in anger, in a direction where he KNOWS there are people standing. He should of course have been disqualified, those are the rules that all players agree to abide by, and the same thing happened to Henman some time ago (https://www.bbc.com/sport/av/tennis/18477343). There is no excuse for such behaviour, it is a bad example and seeing someone get hit in the throat and falling to the floor is general distressing to see for the many millions of people watching.

He also did not stay for the mandatory press conference to explain himself which is also a very poor way to behave and not accept responsibility for what he did. Again, this is a real example of poor sportmanship and behaviour and setting a bad example to his man fans both young and old.

He is an amazing talent, but in combination with his anti-vax (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ination-tennis) and irresponsible COVID behavour (https://www.sportingnews.com/us/tenn...c1p3l9wksc0s3h has brought himself disgrace and is now one of my least favourite major sporting personalities.
Yep, totally agree - love his tennis but he's an odd one no doubt

It's just one of those things. Flash of temper that backfired. Those exact rules are in place because of this, Djokovic fully endorses such rules and cannot nor will he have any complaints. He is a top sportsman and should have no issue in holdng his hands up to this.

Yet, 3 years ago...

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Re: Djokovich US Open Ouster/Disqualification?

His reaction at 6:07 here may have played a role, too. Nobody seems close but he's hitting the ball in anger after losing the point.
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Re: Djokovich US Open Ouster/Disqualification?

He apologized

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...us-open-tennis
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Re: Djokovich US Open Ouster/Disqualification?

Compare it to this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4e1L-NcIqc
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Re: Djokovich US Open Ouster/Disqualification?

He shouldn't have. The same he did after Adria tour for no reason whatsoever. He was right to cancel that press conference and should not now be trying to be apologetic to no one.
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Re: Djokovich US Open Ouster/Disqualification?

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Nobody seems close but he's hitting the ball in anger after losing the point.

and?

Let's just face it - he was disqualified not only for being from non-west part of the world; but also creating a parallel organization to the ATP.
There is a reason why this was done in such a way. Don't ever step on the toes of mafia, which he obviously did.


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Stephen A. Smith reacts to event officials' decision to disqualify Novak Djokovic from the US Open for inadvertently striking a line judge with a ball he smacked in anger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1X...ture=emb_title
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and?

Let's just face it - he was disqualified not only for being from non-west part of the world; but also creating a parallel organization to the ATP.
There is a reason why this was done in such a way. Don't ever step on the toes of mafia, which he obviously did.


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Stephen A. Smith reacts to event officials' decision to disqualify Novak Djokovic from the US Open for inadvertently striking a line judge with a ball he smacked in anger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1X...ture=emb_title
Sorry Mike, but I respectfully disagree. I knew about the parallel organization Djokovich was trying to set up (which for the record, both Federer and Nadal opposed).

That had zero to do with their (ATP's) and umpire's decision. Had Djokovich controlled his aggression/anger, we would not be having this discussion! That said, I watched the match live and while Djokovich didn't seem to me to intentionally swat the ball to hurt the line judge, his ball did. Case closed and infraction issued...

At first, I was surprised at the ump's decision but once I read the ATP rules, I got it.

It's unfortunate; but as my late, very wise Mom would say, "It is what it is!"
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and?

Let's just face it - he was disqualified not only for being from non-west part of the world; but also creating a parallel organization to the ATP.
There is a reason why this was done in such a way. Don't ever step on the toes of mafia, which he obviously did.


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Stephen A. Smith reacts to event officials' decision to disqualify Novak Djokovic from the US Open for inadvertently striking a line judge with a ball he smacked in anger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1X...ture=emb_title
Lets just face it, you are a Djokovich fan who is seemingly so irrational that he can't accept the truth that his favourite player behaved in a manner unworthy of the sport and was rightly punished for it. Instead, you are here pushing conspiracy theory excuses, when even Djokovich himself has publicly said that his behaviour and what resulted was simply not acceptable in any way, shape or form.
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what does that mean? Eastern lives matter?
It means he not only has to play but he has to play while carrying the huge cross of victimhood on his back. Nasal or Federer donít win tournaments while carrying that kind of weight, hats off to him.
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Lol
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Sorry Mike, but I respectfully disagree. I knew about the parallel organization Djokovich was trying to set up (which for the record, both Federer and Nadal opposed).

That had zero to do with their (ATP's) and umpire's decision.
Not trying, he set it up. Precisely this is what it is all about. Plus him being non-Western. Yes, he has wrong nationality, if not the race let's face it.


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Lets just face it, you are a Djokovich fan who is seemingly so irrational that he can't accept the truth that his favourite player behaved in a manner unworthy of the sport and was rightly punished for it. Instead, you are here pushing conspiracy theory excuses, when even Djokovich himself has publicly said that his behaviour and what resulted was simply not acceptable in any way, shape or form.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NygSSzLiHyM

Honestly, am not and couldn't care less about him. Just like calling a spade a spade. Just compare his actions to that of Federer in the above link - and tell me was the favorite white ever punished for anything that severe?

And surely you cannot compare Federer's tantrums to that of Djokovic hitting the ball now.

Not sure I am the one who is irrational here - or you wish to say ESPN guy is also irrational? And learn to spell pls. Certainly not 'Djokovich'.
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It means he not only has to play but he has to play while carrying the huge cross of victimhood on his back. Nasal or Federer donít win tournaments while carrying that kind of weight, hats off to him.
So does whole of NBA plus Serena with black lives matter?
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He shouldn't have. The same he did after Adria tour for no reason whatsoever. He was right to cancel that press conference and should not now be trying to be apologetic to no one.
Apologizing has more to do than just being sorry or not. These top-notch players make millions in sponsorship deals, and sponsors don't like their stars acting like jerks. When players make a mistake such as this, the sponsors usually expect the star to apologize and quickly move on. There's a reason Federer rakes in far more money from endorsements than from tennis - he's maintained his good guy/nice guy/maestro image very, very well.
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Not trying, he set it up. Precisely this is what it is all about. Plus him being non-Western. Yes, he has wrong nationality, if not the race let's face it.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NygSSzLiHyM

Honestly, am not and couldn't care less about him. Just compare his actions to that of Federer in the above link - and tell me was the favorite white ever punished for anything that severe?

And surely you cannot compare Federer's tantrums to that of Djokovic hitting the ball now.

Not sure I am the one who is irrational here - or you wish to say ESPN guy is also irrational? And learn to spell pls. Certainly not 'Djokovich'.
Pls learn to write with complete words before criticizing someone for a simple typo. Thx.

And yes, by saying what you are saying you are indeed being irrational.
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and?

Let's just face it - he was disqualified not only for being from non-west part of the world; but also creating a parallel organization to the ATP.
There is a reason why this was done in such a way. Don't ever step on the toes of mafia, which he obviously did.


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Stephen A. Smith reacts to event officials' decision to disqualify Novak Djokovic from the US Open for inadvertently striking a line judge with a ball he smacked in anger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1X...ture=emb_title
Thatís a novelty to me, great piece of conspiracy theory here

Letís put it simply. If somebody behaves like a moron, irrespective of their nationality thereís no exception that should be made. One can pull many cards, but what happened yesterday is just something that none of the competitors should get away with. Period.
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T If somebody behaves like a moron, irrespective of their nationality thereís no exception that should be made.
You refer to the Federer's tantrums link I posted above?
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A great article as to why this disqualification was warranted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/06/s...d-djkovic.html
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Re: Djokovich US Open Ouster/Disqualification?

OK, I have seen more of the thing that got Djokovich disqualified from US Open. He was careless and a bit arrogant, and he shouldn't have been. He didn't throw the ball with anger though, as some have said. The hit was totally unintentional. I think the woman complained a tad too theatrically if you ask me. There's no way she could have had such a pain, it was a very light throw. Whatevs. I don't blame her for putting up a scene (well, at least a little...), it was right to make him pay for that gesture. Anyway, what he did was wrong as you're supposed to watch out where you throw the ball, but I think the decision was too harsh. If I was the empire I would have read him the rules. Aloud. There couldn't have been a bigger humiliation than that.
I'm afraid he and other players won't learn anything from here and it will only make him a "martyr".
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OK, I have seen more of the thing that got Djokovich disqualified from US Open. He was careless and a bit arrogant, and he shouldn't have been. He didn't throw the ball with anger though, as some have said. The hit was totally unintentional. I think the woman complained a tad too theatrically if you ask me. There's no way she could have had such a pain, it was a very light throw. Whatevs. I don't blame her for putting up a scene (well, at least a little...), it was right to make him pay for that gesture. Anyway, what he did was wrong as you're supposed to watch out where you throw the ball, but I think the decision was too harsh. If I was the empire I would have read him the rules. Aloud. There couldn't have been a bigger humiliation than that.
I'm afraid he and other players won't learn anything from here and it will only make him a "martyr".
Why would the woman complain too theatrically ? Does she have in for Djokovich, is that it ?
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