 | | | 
20.04.2021, 20:59
| Forum Legend | | Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Nyon
Posts: 6,765
Groaned at 394 Times in 290 Posts
Thanked 9,333 Times in 4,377 Posts
| | European Super League
Look, look, up there in the sky. ... It’s a bird, no, it’s a plane, no, it’s Superleague, no it’s an utter flop.
What were they thinking ...
| 
20.04.2021, 21:05
| | Re: European Super League
Exactly! Shame on them...
Man City is out and it looks like Chelsea will pull out as well...
| 
20.04.2021, 21:20
| Forum Legend | | Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Nyon
Posts: 6,765
Groaned at 394 Times in 290 Posts
Thanked 9,333 Times in 4,377 Posts
| | Re: European Super League
Some guy from one of the Italian teams was saying this was all about “saving football”. According to him a large proportion of youngsters had lost interest in watching 22 players run back and forth for 90 minutes scoring only occasionally. Well perhaps he didn’t actually say that but implying that footballs days were numbered if ‘something’ wasn’t done.
Well, have they looked at what it costs for a family of four to actually experience a live game. Not just the ticket price but all of the costs?
But that would cut into their (obscene) profits.
| 
20.04.2021, 21:25
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Lugano
Posts: 32,602
Groaned at 2,592 Times in 1,849 Posts
Thanked 39,700 Times in 18,715 Posts
| | Re: European Super League | Quote: | |  | | | Some guy from one of the Italian teams was saying this was all about “saving football”. | | | | | Please check your facts:
Boss of one of the Spanish teams, actually: "Real Madrid president Florentino Perez thinks the proposed European Super League will “save football at this critical moment” "
Tom
| 
20.04.2021, 21:40
| Forum Legend | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Switzerland
Posts: 8,757
Groaned at 322 Times in 246 Posts
Thanked 20,102 Times in 7,021 Posts
| | Re: European Super League
The super league clubs are only thinking about their own interests, contrary to UEFA and FIFA executives, players, club executives and players' managers that only want the best for the sport | 
20.04.2021, 21:46
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Suhr, Aargau
Posts: 4,364
Groaned at 73 Times in 68 Posts
Thanked 6,088 Times in 2,871 Posts
| | Re: European Super League | Quote: | |  | | | Some guy from one of the Italian teams was saying this was all about “saving football”. According to him a large proportion of youngsters had lost interest in watching 22 players run back and forth for 90 minutes scoring only occasionally. | | | | | It was a Spanish guy https://barcauniversal.com/super-lea...for-a-new-era/
The part below is interesting. From a short-term perspective, it's great business to let smaller teams die and make business with the large ones. From a long-term perspective, will fans care about teams they have never seen live? | Quote: |  | | | 40% of young people aren’t interested in football, because there are too many games of low quality. And we had to adapt,” said Perez. “Football needs to be more attractive globally. Games like Manchester vs. Barcelona will be better than Manchester vs. a smaller team.” | | | | | From the business point of view. Feel free to laugh at how good they are at business. They let FIFA run away with the video games licensing money. | Quote: |  | | | “When you have no other revenue, apart from broadcasting rights, you have to find a solution to create more attractive games that allow fans from around the world to see the big clubs playing against each other. | | | | | Of course, it's easy to criticize in hindsight. But imagine making all the damned hard work to make football work and see how Electronic Arts have great profits year after year for developing and selling video games inspired in the real thing.
| 
20.04.2021, 21:47
|  | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Suisse Romande
Posts: 1,406
Groaned at 10 Times in 9 Posts
Thanked 3,569 Times in 1,017 Posts
| | Re: European Super League
Man United CEO has resigned. I suppose they will be next to withdraw.
| 
20.04.2021, 21:56
| Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vaud
Posts: 2,459
Groaned at 175 Times in 122 Posts
Thanked 4,947 Times in 1,902 Posts
| | Re: European Super League | Quote: | |  | | | Man United CEO has resigned. I suppose they will be next to withdraw. | | | | | Athletico and Barcelona about to exit too apparently.
| 
20.04.2021, 21:58
| Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vaud
Posts: 2,459
Groaned at 175 Times in 122 Posts
Thanked 4,947 Times in 1,902 Posts
| | Re: European Super League
The most fascinating piece about this is the cultural misalignment between American owners and a European game. In fact watching man United against a minnow does have a very specific appeal in football but it’s something that would not translate well across the pond. I genuinely think they thought it would work but have not by a country mile understood the importance of tradition and history when it comes to the national game.
| 
20.04.2021, 21:59
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SZ
Posts: 3,270
Groaned at 283 Times in 195 Posts
Thanked 6,567 Times in 2,770 Posts
| | Re: European Super League
Serves them right.
| 
20.04.2021, 22:01
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Switzerland
Posts: 22,869
Groaned at 445 Times in 343 Posts
Thanked 17,983 Times in 10,045 Posts
| | Re: European Super League
They have no other revenue? So they're letting the fans in for free! And giving away all that merchandise they have! Wow! | 
20.04.2021, 22:26
| | Re: European Super League
To quote Graham Souness, "They have all been deceitful". Gary Nevilles also had a go/rant. No idea what they were thinking and how they ever thought this would go down/be accepted...
| 
20.04.2021, 22:27
|  | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Suisse Romande
Posts: 1,406
Groaned at 10 Times in 9 Posts
Thanked 3,569 Times in 1,017 Posts
| | Re: European Super League
Andrea Agnelli resigns as president of Juventus - unconfirmed!
If that’s true, super league is finished.
| 
20.04.2021, 22:31
| | Re: European Super League
Think the "Super League" is already finished | 
20.04.2021, 22:37
| Forum Legend | | Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SG
Posts: 9,915
Groaned at 557 Times in 405 Posts
Thanked 13,321 Times in 6,919 Posts
| | Re: European Super League
Just another UEFA or FIFA. Each is a profit-maximising mega-corporation. The only difference being that FIFA goes untaxed.
There's no way the top players are worth 20-50-100 Euromillions per year either.
It's all about the money, the sport has become irrelevant before the millenium. Use all those leagues as test specimens for the first flights to Mars (to be launched this year) and start anew.
| 
20.04.2021, 22:44
|  | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: La Côte
Posts: 1,513
Groaned at 139 Times in 76 Posts
Thanked 1,736 Times in 796 Posts
| | Re: European Super League | Quote: | |  | | | The super league clubs are only thinking about their own interests, contrary to UEFA and FIFA executives, players, club executives and players' managers that only want the best for the sport | | | | | Unmitigated greed at the heart of it, speculation US banks behind the idea
Money is already killing the game but ESL was poorly conceived, even if UEFA/FIFA are just as repugnant
| 
21.04.2021, 08:00
| Forum Legend | | Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Nyon
Posts: 6,765
Groaned at 394 Times in 290 Posts
Thanked 9,333 Times in 4,377 Posts
| | Re: European Super League | Quote: | |  | | | Just another UEFA or FIFA. Each is a profit-maximising mega-corporation. The only difference being that FIFA goes untaxed. | | | | | UEFA, based in Nyon, isn’t taxed either.
If all the tax free sports organisations were taxed 1% of their revenue, we could do away with income taxes countrywide.
| 
21.04.2021, 09:40
| Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Lugano
Posts: 1,271
Groaned at 17 Times in 15 Posts
Thanked 1,541 Times in 706 Posts
| | Re: European Super League
This was about EUFA and FIFA losing their cosy little monopoly - ironically something Boris said would happen if the ESL was created!! I hoped it would succeed purely as a way of shaking up the other two incumbents!
| 
21.04.2021, 10:17
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Zurich
Posts: 12,361
Groaned at 338 Times in 274 Posts
Thanked 26,263 Times in 11,000 Posts
| | Re: European Super League
I think fans have been losing interest for years. It's a long term timescale.
The kids I talk to have very little interest in football. Quite different to what things were like when I was at school.
I don't think more goals or more expensive players are going to fix that.
Typical case of bubble thinking.
And no. Football is not going to go away. Doomsday scenarios are not helpful.
| 
21.04.2021, 11:34
| Member | | Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: London
Posts: 193
Groaned at 101 Times in 33 Posts
Thanked 420 Times in 125 Posts
| | Re: European Super League
The NHL (National Hockey League) implemented a salary cap and revenue sharing agreement in 2005 and since then league wide revenues have more than doubled from $2.3 bn in 2005 to $5 bn in 2019 and average viewership of the Stanley Cup finals jumped from 3 m fans/game to 5 m fans/game in the same period. The salary cap has gone up each year (more money for players) and the games are more exciting as no one team can load up on all the star players and the playoffs are great as almost any team who qualifies has a chance of winning.
Contrast that to football where its PSG, Bayern, Juventus and Real/Barca who win their domestic leagues year in year out and even the EPL has become stale with Leicester being the only odd team to win it.
The game needs more parity to be exciting and you need cost and revenue certainty to achieve that.
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | Thread Tools | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT +2. The time now is 07:52. | |