The following is a standard JVC tactic when an English speaking forum is invaded by a Yank macho redneck:

Baseball - in England* this is called rounders and is played by schoolgirls.
Basketball - in England* this is called netball and is played by schoolgirls.

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bokke!!!!!

was there ever any doubt???

depends how much the team payed the video ref

Well done guys, I live with a S.African and it's like a disco/wake in the house depending on who you speak to.

sorry i know everyone is upset about the "no try" decision. i thought it was a try too, but alas if you look carefully u will find its a no try.

for sure

bokke!!!!!

Sorry Guys. It just wasn't a try. (use the pause button)

I did, and from that video you can clearly see that Mark Cueto raised his foot just before it would have touched the line. Only just, mind. His foot being in the air , above or across the touch line, is not in touch.

I have yet to see a picture where Mark clearly makes contact with the touch line.



His boots should have been laboratory tested for any evidence of white paint.

Ultimately it wasn't a try because the ref didn't give it, end of.

My opinion is that had I been the ref, I would have given the try - but I wasn't, and he didn't, and so it was Not A Try. Those are, sadly, the facts.

Also to whoever pointed out that there was a 9 point deficit - at the time of that incident, it was 9-3 to S.A. So, a converted try would have put us 10-9 up and affected the rest of the game drastically. The decision did have an effect on the psychology of both teams which arguably affected the overall outcome of the game.

That said I also think that we gave away 3 penalties over the 80 minutes that were down to poor discipline or careless play - without those it would have been 6-6, so we have nobody to blame but ourselves.

Ultimately, over the whole tournament, I think the best team has the trophy (and yes it hurts to say that but let's be honest, it would have been a real smash and grab job if we'd won it.)

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Terry, well said. The best team of the tournament won last night. Well done to the Springboks for giving us entertaining rugby these past 5 weeks. You totally deserve to be holding that cup for a 2ND time.

I watched the game in a hotel France - the French thought it was impossible that the try would not be given and the booing when it wasn't was mainly the French (we English were just in a state of shock). The French commentator asked the obvious question - if he was in touch why did the linesman, who can be seen to be exactly the right position to call it, not raise his flag?

The other point the French commentator made was about penalty number 5 - the ball was hoofed from deep, all the SA players around the catcher were offside when the 'obstruction' occurred. Penalty should have gone back to the first offence.

The best team in the tournament won, no denying the fact, but that wasn't anything like their best game and England could have stolen it if the try had been awarded.

The prize for the most improved team has to go to Argentina - fantastic performance.

All I can say is that was a rather predictable game (I expected SA to score a few tries actually). South Africa was clearly the best team throughout the whole championship, and England hasn't been playing its best. When all major papers in England have a "Let's pray Johnny does it again" (as I saw Thursday and Friday while in London), it's just a bad sign. Anyhow, congrats to both, Winners and Silver medallists.

Now, please do me a favor and say something nice about my dear Pumas. It's hard not to have anyone to talk about this with. I'm 100% surrounded by Swiss, German and Austrian co-workers.

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They were excellent and I hope they get admitted to the tri-nations. Getting a team into the Super14s would be a mistake though, since most of their players play in France.

We have to of course also remember that "in the good old days" before technology ... the try would not have been awarded due to the fact that neither the ref nor the linesman could "without a doubt" confirm that it was a try.

Oh well, congratulations to England for a great fightback since 2003. Bring on 2011 (SA to be the first team to defend the cup?)

I think that without the technology, because the linesman's flag was not raised, the referee would have given a try. Nevertheless, Just like the controversy surrounding the 1966 World cup goal, there will remain two opposite opinions on this disallowed try.

After a poor start in this tournament, England can be proud of making it to the final and grounding the only try, even if they were awarded no points for it.

In spite of this, the Boks were the better team, deserved to win, and did so.

Congratulations to both teams for what they have achieved.

I agree with you on 99% of what you say. Rugby really was the winner during the past 2 months, however ... nowadays linesman hardly ever raise their flags close to the in-goal area as they would rather let the TMO make the decision. They know that the technology exists, so would rather not make a (possible) bad call. In my humble opinion.

The final nail (albeit - I bet - only temporary) in NZ rugby

http://www.irb.com/rankings/full.html

ja now SA will be the underdorgs for the next 4 years

Photoshop is such a cool tool .

I like the way the try line becomes broader and curves to the right. Also the colour of the boot (which is not quite touching the ground) matches the green of the SA outfit. Surely not a cut and paste job ?

Everything will be fine.You can watch in net also