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Is as lovely as before 18 27.27%
Beauty of the game has been sacrifised by tactics 12 18.18%
Teams are too cautious and players are nervous 10 15.15%
Is too much result oriented 4 6.06%
Don't like analysis, just love to watch 11 16.67%
Couldn't care less about it 23 34.85%
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Old 02.07.2010, 22:36
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Ghana play brilliant football, absolute pleasure to watch.
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Old 02.07.2010, 23:38
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We beat Brazil!!!
Yes we did, even though I will pick up my Dutch passport in two years (God willingly) I enjoyed this game very very much!
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Old 02.07.2010, 23:47
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Are you German???
Nah, Brazilian-American which means:
1) I'm screwed.
2) I have to now dislike the Netherlands.
3) I couldn't possibly support Argentina.
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Old 03.07.2010, 00:02
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what an incredible game btw Ghana and Uruguay!!

Ghana missed the penalty at 120' .... and lost at then end!

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Mother fking cheater won!
It was disgusting.
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Very sad for me being half Southafrican Ghana was the last hope for an African representation.
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Old 03.07.2010, 00:37
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what a sad end result I'm seriously cheesed off with Uruguay!
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Old 03.07.2010, 01:32
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Yep WTF happened? The ball was inside when Suarez pushed it out with his hands!!!!!! Anyways...
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Old 03.07.2010, 01:32
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Nah, Brazilian-American which means:
1) I'm screwed.
2) I have to now dislike the Netherlands.
3) I couldn't possibly support Argentina.
OK I understand, specially point number 3!
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Old 03.07.2010, 03:42
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Tomorrow should be a good matchup. Germany and Argentina have been playing the best football of the tournament, and considering what they've done in the past, the American NFL equivalent for this matchup would probably be 49ers-Colts.
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Old 03.07.2010, 05:34
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Tomorrow should be a good matchup. Germany and Argentina have been playing the best football of the tournament, and considering what they've done in the past, the American NFL equivalent for this matchup would probably be 49ers-Colts.
49ers and Colts?
I hate to tell you this but the San Francisco 49ers have not had a winning season since 2002, and won their last Superbowl championship 16 years ago. Unless you are predicting a one sided blow out, this might not be the best analogy.
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Old 03.07.2010, 09:21
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Mother fking cheater won!
It was disgusting.

What a load of rubbish. He paid the penalty for what he did. His World Cup is now over but he took one for the team. How is that any different than a technical foul? If I were Uruguayan I'd be doing nothing but singing his praises..
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Old 03.07.2010, 11:29
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2) I have to now dislike the Netherlands
Why would you dislike the Netherlands

It's not like they cheated to defeat Brasil. IMHO They were simply better.
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Old 03.07.2010, 11:58
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On paper the hand-ball rule as applied last night is not really fair.

Yeah yeah I know whats fair? life isn't even remotely fair so the whole football fairness argument holds little water, but just for the record.

A blatantly deliberate handball for a ball that was clearly going in, lets face it Suarez actually thought he was the goalie his save was of such magnitude, and the outcome is a penalty kick in order to 'right the wrong'.... when in instances such as that when the ball is clearly going in - without a shadow of a doubt - shouldn't it just be awarded as a goal (in a perfect world of course) as I know there is often doubt in which case stick with the penalty, but where there is NO doubt then automatic goal.

What I am trying to say is, there is a clear difference between a hand ball say in the Serbia-Ghana game where the ball is not even close to goal but because its in the penalty area its a penalty kick and Suarez's hand ball last night. Sure the players punishment is different in terms of the yellow/red card but in the last minute this hardly matters and so what if Suarez sits out the next game, the reward is far superior to the punishment....

Discuss....

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Old 03.07.2010, 13:08
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Very sad for me being half Southafrican Ghana was the last hope for an African representation.
This is unfortunate proof of proffessionals winning against amatuers, no matter who is better.

Brazilians are used to win and be ahead. If once in a while they get behind, then they are embarrased and nervous. same happened in second half yesterday.
Besides I give credit to Dutch coach which changed the team in 2.nd half impressively.

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There are no positive options in your poll, all options are in the negative, therefore I cannot vote.

- It is different from before
- The beauty of football can strike at any time
- Is too much result oriented - no, there have been some great games where both teams have played their hearts out
- Teams are too cautious and players are nervous - Some teams have jut been shit, like England, France and Italy - and good riddance. Long live the underdogs and bravo to those teams who play their hearts out.
- Don't like analysis just love to watch it - analysis rocks, I love it. TV football has learned a lot from FIFA for games consoles and Pro Evolution Soccer.
There are both + and - choices.

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Old 03.07.2010, 14:24
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This is unfortunate proof of proffessionals winning against amatuers, no matter who is better.
Who are you calling 'amateur'? And with what justification?
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Old 03.07.2010, 16:25
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A line up of the 32 National football coaches taking part in the 2010 World Cup in South Africa and their gross annual incomes.



1. Fabio Capello, England: 8.800.000 €
2. Marcelo Lippi, Italy : 3.000.000 €
3. Joachim Loew, Germany :2.500.000 €
4. Berter Van Marwijk, Netherlands :1.800.000 €
5. Ottmar Hitzfeld, Switzerland: 1.750.000 €
6. Vicente Del Bosque, Spain :1.500.000 €
7. Carlos Queiroz, Portugal :1.350.000 €
8. Pim Verbeek, Australia :1.200.000 €
9. Carlos Parreira, South Africa: 1.200.000 €
10. Javier Aguirre, Mexico : 1.200.000 €
11. Carlos Dunga, Brazil : 800.000 €
12. Diego Maradona, Argentina : 800.000 €
13. Takeshi Okada, Japan : 800.000 €
14. Ricki Herbert, New Zealand : 800.000 €
15. Otto Rehhagel, Greece : 750.000 €
16. Paul Le Guen, Cameroon : 650.000 €
17. Marcelo Bielsa, Chile : 575.000 €
18. Raymond Domenech, France : 560.000 €
19. Vahdi Halilhodzic, Ivory Coast : 505.000 €
20. Huh Jung Moo, South Korea: 405.000 €
21. Morten Olsen, Denmark : 390.000 €
22. Milovan Rajevac, Ghana : 365.000 €
23. Radomir Antic, Serbia : 305.000 €
24. Bob Bradley, USA : 275.000 €
25. Matjaz Kek, Slovenia : 245.000 €
26. Gerardo Martino, Paraguay : 245.000
27. Rabah Saadane, Algeria : 245.000 €
28. Reinaldo Rueda, Honduras : 240.000 €
29. Vladimir Weiss, Slovakia : 215.000 €
30. Oscar Tabarez, Uruguay : 205.000 €
31. Kim Jong Hun, North Korea: 170.000 €
32. Shaibu Amodu, Nigeria : 125.000 €



Source: Afrik.com/Futebolfinance.com
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49ers and Colts?
I hate to tell you this but the San Francisco 49ers have not had a winning season since 2002, and won their last Superbowl championship 16 years ago. Unless you are predicting a one sided blow out, this might not be the best analogy.
True, and Argentina hasn't won a World Cup since I graduated from high school. But many NFL fans remember what the 49ers did, so their team is more prestigious than a team like the Netherlands or Ghana who has never played in a World Cup championship. Same thing with the Edmonton Oilers in hockey.

I was tempted to say Steelers-Cowboys, but that probably only would have applied if Brazil was in the final, which they won't be.
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Old 03.07.2010, 16:49
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True, and Argentina hasn't won a World Cup since I graduated from high school. But many NFL fans remember what the 49ers did, so their team is more prestigious than a team like the Netherlands or Ghana who has never played in a World Cup championship. Same thing with the Edmonton Oilers in hockey.

I was tempted to say Steelers-Cowboys, but that probably only would have applied if Brazil was in the final, which they won't be.
You have obviously no idea what you are talking about: The Netherlands have a long history of playing very well in the World and European championships (but they always lose in the semi-finals). So often that clear rivalries could develop:

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I wish that the managers of each time could be allowed 3 challenges each. Then they could use review cameras and find out if the ref or linesman had made a bad call. If only allowed 3 calls then it should not slow the game down too much. Even if they had such rules I don't know how that would have guarded against Ghana being robbed of the goal. There is too much corruption in the World Cup and Olympics for me to take it seriously.
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