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menace 22.07.2010 17:38

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So Australia managed to get 88 in their first innings against Pakistan in the second test. Pakistan managed to get 80 before losing their first wicket.

Hope the Ozy's keep up this fine test form for the ashes. They're almost as good as england are at football...

22.07.2010 17:50

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I will laugh at you if ponting scores a triple century and wins or draws the match for Australia.

They are playing Pakistan. Anything could happen.

Jimmy Bee 22.07.2010 17:55

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I wonder how much salman butt has on the win?

The question is whether england can do better than last time in Australia. You know, try to win a game

menace 22.07.2010 18:01

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Ponting score a triple century? Yeah, he looks in fine form.

We'll have to see about winning a game, won't we? If I was a neutral, I know where my money would be going at the moment...

22.07.2010 18:08

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I'd put 5CHF of Australia winning the Ashes if you are up for it. I am neither English nor Australian :)

menace 22.07.2010 18:19

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There's confidence for you. If you'd said any other currency I'd have said you could be poor instead

22.07.2010 18:21

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I bet a guy last year that if Australia didn't win the ashes I would eat my hat. It didn't taste good. I'm more confident this year so I'm upping it to currency.

Ponting and Clarke are looking good just now and the bowling isn't looking special.

Jimmy Bee 22.07.2010 18:23

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The only team that can win the ashes are Australia. We are also the only ones that can lose it

*comments from the supercoach*

eddiejc1 24.07.2010 02:06

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Question for cricket fans---how come whenever I hear about this sport, it's always national teams playing? Like Australia vs. England or India vs. New Zealand. Why do I never hear that the Manchester Jaguars played the London Redcoats?

Upthehatters2008 24.07.2010 02:18

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Originally Posted by eddiejc1 (Post 886115)
Question for cricket fans---how come whenever I hear about this sport, it's always national teams playing? Like Australia vs. England or India vs. New Zealand. Why do I never hear that the Manchester Jaguars played the London Redcoats?

National games are played at the County (akin to Canton ) level in England, i.e. Essex, Hampshire and Surrey. There isn't much City vs City cricket as in football, not enough talent and players to keep sponsors and media involved at this level. Probably not enough room on the TV schedules either to give a fair broad coverage squeezing in between Football and Rugby. it's a different story on the International front, enough Tests, series and tours to keep the TV crowds glued to the box.

eddiejc1 24.07.2010 02:43

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So I guess cricket is the like swimming and athletics---sports that Americans get very interested in every four years at the Olympics, but not so much in other years.

Upthehatters2008 24.07.2010 03:11

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Originally Posted by eddiejc1 (Post 886121)
So I guess cricket is the like swimming and athletics---sports that Americans get very interested in every four years at the Olympics, but not so much in other years.

More like every Summer... Day/night , IPL and fewer 5 day matches are attracting bigger and more frequent audiences...

lj667 24.07.2010 19:57

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Hopefully we'll see a decent series, although I suspect the Poms will have Australia beat (yeah, I'm an Aussie). They've put in some decent series and seems to be developing a formidable team.

Our showing against Pakistan is abysmal (even the match we did win), and hardly harks back to the glory days. It may, however, be the wake up call we desperately need.

I'm a little disappointed that I will likely spend this year's boxing day test in the snow of Switzerland, rather than 30+ degrees in the stands, but it may be for the best...

Raaaabert 25.07.2010 16:45

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All I can say is lucky the Spanish don`t play cricket crikey they have really exploded on the world sporting scene last few years - kinda inverse to Australian swimming. As an Aussie I dont think this Ashes will be clear cut its 50:50 if u ask me.

menace 27.07.2010 18:49

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Well, we'll soon have a clue when England play Pakistan. If they can beat them in the series, and get a hundred or more against their bowlers every innings...I guess Ponting didn't manage that triple century, huh?

varun.c.jain 27.07.2010 19:27

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Originally Posted by eddiejc1 (Post 886115)
Question for cricket fans---how come whenever I hear about this sport, it's always national teams playing? Like Australia vs. England or India vs. New Zealand. Why do I never hear that the Manchester Jaguars played the London Redcoats?

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Originally Posted by Upthehatters2008 (Post 886119)
National games are played at the County (akin to Canton ) level in England, i.e. Essex, Hampshire and Surrey. There isn't much City vs City cricket as in football, not enough talent and players to keep sponsors and media involved at this level. Probably not enough room on the TV schedules either to give a fair broad coverage squeezing in between Football and Rugby. it's a different story on the International front, enough Tests, series and tours to keep the TV crowds glued to the box.

well now there is the Indian Premier League, started by the Board of Cricket Control of India, which has the 20-20 form of the game played between teams like Royal Challengers Bangalore, Delhi Daredevils... you could read about it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Premier_League.

considering the amount of money which is being pumped into this event, I am surprised why people are not aware about it at a global level... they even have players from other countries in the teams...

menace 28.07.2010 20:39

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That's because it's rubbish...not cricket at all. I prefer tests...they're a proper test of character, and sportsmanship.

Only kidding, it's not bad at all, is it? India are still completely rubbish at 20 20 though. Remind me who won the recent world cup again? And where did India come...

A bit like England at footy, eh? I should have left that for you to say, sorry...

28.07.2010 20:59

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Originally Posted by menace (Post 890984)
That's because it's rubbish...not cricket at all. I prefer tests...they're a proper test of character, and sportsmanship.

Only kidding, it's not bad at all, is it? India are still completely rubbish at 20 20 though. Remind me who won the recent world cup again? And where did India come...

A bit like England at footy, eh? I should have left that for you to say, sorry...

I feel like keeping this every time one of my English friends wants to know why I support anyone but England.

You lot really are insufferable sometimes :rolleyes:

varun.c.jain 28.07.2010 23:18

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oh please I completely agree... 20-20 does not do justice to cricket or what it stands for... but then it has been accepted pretty well now... anywhooo I'm nobody to be passing any judgments cause I have no special liking for the game anyways; be it in any format...

also, the IPL is hardly about India, and more about the well-bestowed Indian franchisee owners flaunting their wealth and their women... and the 20-20 WC; well they did win it 2 years back! but who's counting, bah...

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Originally Posted by menace (Post 890984)
A bit like England at footy, eh? I should have left that for you to say, sorry...

:lol:

my main intent is to ask though how come the world is not aware about this event, as they are about the EPL or NFL or its likes... and I really mean it... cause the amount of moolah that is at stake in this event is unbelievable, and IIRC it stands second to the EPL now in purely monetary terms... I may be wrong, but I am sort of sure about this...

menace 29.07.2010 16:46

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Originally Posted by porsch1909 (Post 891007)
I feel like keeping this every time one of my English friends wants to know why I support anyone but England.

You lot really are insufferable sometimes :rolleyes:

I completely agree; I only do it to conform to the stereotype. Most of them are like that naturally. Where you from, scotland?

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Originally Posted by varun.c.jain (Post 891130)
also, the IPL is hardly about India, and more about the well-bestowed Indian franchisee owners flaunting their wealth and their women...
my main intent is to ask though how come the world is not aware about this event, as they are about the EPL or NFL or its likes... and I really mean it... cause the amount of moolah that is at stake in this event is unbelievable, and IIRC it stands second to the EPL now in purely monetary terms... I may be wrong, but I am sort of sure about this...

Women? What women? Have they got women playing in the IPL, or what? I'll have to watch it more closely.

I think it has many cultural reasons, one of them being that Cricket is not a worldwide sport in the same way as football (if only the Empire had been bigger and lasted longer to allow us to export the game further), but the main one, I'd say, is that the IPL, and India as a whole, keeps shooting itself in the foot with all the rampant corruption that is so endemic throughout. I'm just waiting fro some story connected to Dave the Rave's grovelling mission to break...

varun.c.jain 29.07.2010 17:45

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:msntongue: with "their women" I meant the WAGs of the stinking rich businessmen who own these franchisees...

yes definitely I understand the cultural reasons which keep the knowledge of this game limited, but I am also glad "the empire" went bust in time... :msncool:

the corruption in IPL... ermm, can't deny that even if I wanted to... but ya the scene turned quite ugly this time around... all the more reason for me to wonder, why did the world still not hear about it? but ya I guess we "keep" such news from the International media...

29.07.2010 17:54

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Shaping up to be a good test today. As long as Pakistan can get over 100 when their turn comes :rolleyes:

menace 30.07.2010 16:27

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hey, I thought england were in trouble yesterday when they were what, 112 for 4. Not as much trouble as the Ozys were at 88 all out, but still...then we managed to rescue it yeterday and were looking good at 337 for 4...then totally collasped as only england and australia can, adding only 27 runs for the last 6 wickets...still, at least we weren't all out for 88.

cricketer 30.07.2010 17:58

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Pakistan currently being stuffed:)

30.07.2010 18:08

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Pakistan are really lacking in the batting department.

31.07.2010 20:54

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Pains me to say it but England are looking in good shape. Pakistan have a very ordinary batting line up but their bowling line up is top notch and they have done well against them.

menace 03.08.2010 16:00

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Wait...did england bowl out for 80 the team that bowled out the ozzy's for 88? And hammer them with ease, despite a collapse of epic english, or even Australina, proportions?

cricketer 06.08.2010 15:07

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Pakistan having a torrid time all round!!

menace 09.08.2010 12:21

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all out for 72? Just gets worse and worse

Carlos R 09.08.2010 12:26

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The match isn't finished yet...

cricketer 27.08.2010 16:34

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England collapse - nothing new there then. Pakistan putting up a real good showing.

27.08.2010 17:04

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Trott is putting up a good fight :)

imogen 27.08.2010 17:14

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Shhh - don't talk about the cricket

*head in sand*

29.08.2010 13:47

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Originally Posted by imogen (Post 923173)
Shhh - don't talk about the cricket

*head in sand*

That's the feeling every Pakistan cricket fan has this morning :(

Shame on Pakistan. I hope they are banned from international cricket. And I'm a Pakistan fan.

Raaaabert 04.09.2010 19:29

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Anyone fancy a wager?

menace 14.09.2010 01:28

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Well, we won another nail biter. Some good young players stepping up. Still think Afradi is mint

menace 09.11.2010 11:56

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So, the Ozzy's are looking really poor. Only england could contrive to lose to such a pathetic side...could be a close series. I'd have to say, england must be slight favourites...any okkers feeling confident?

Soixante_neuf 09.11.2010 12:12

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I'm looking forward to filling my work desktop with cricket related windows and getting repetative strain injury from clicking refresh.

Sources of choice are:

By Ball: Crickinfo (for the facts)
By Over: Guardian OBO (for the banter)
By Session: Telegraph (for the insights)

As an aside, i did actually get a comment mentioned in the Guardian coverage. The daily subject was cricket (obviously) combined with David Brentisms, i'll copy it here due it being the 'highlight of my life':

David: Under "Strengths"... you've just put making up the numbers.
Ian Bell: Yeah.
David: That's your job though, that's, that's just-
Ian Bell: - Mmm. [nods]
David: No, Ian. What. I was sort of looking for your skills within your job. So is there anything else you could have put there?
Ian Bell: [shrugs]
David: Nope. Okay. Umm... Under "Weaknesses" you've put batting.

menace 09.11.2010 12:15

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Personally I like the bbc. They do that little rss feed scorecard that sits in the corner of your screen and updates automatically.

09.11.2010 12:18

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Originally Posted by menace (Post 1006775)
Personally I like the bbc. They do that little rss feed scorecard that sits in the corner of your screen and updates automatically.

They are very slow with their live text updates though :(


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