Why do topics get moderated on the very subject they are trying to address ? - Page 8

Ouchboy · #**141** 21.02.2011, 15:19

	Quote:	Mud
	Make it so that new members are redirected to englishforumLT.ch, where they can't post until a cookie has registered that they have clicked all the stickies, and they have to make 20 posts in kindergarten before they are directed to the EF for big boys and girls. Make a sticky in the EF For Big People that if they complain about all the meanies they are immediately banned. "But that's not fai-" banned As a little 4 year I know would say, "That's a good 'dea!"

The idea is called "newbietown" on other forums.

Although it's good, it makes everyone try to post there so their posts can remain "unmolested".

People asking for untrolled threads or threads without witty retorts are ridiculous. It's like asking for no pee in a pool.... people do it, deal with it.

#**142** 21.02.2011, 15:21

	Quote:
	Do they get a sweetie, Phos?

No, but you and the forum will smell better.

MusicChick · #**143** 21.02.2011, 15:27

	Quote:
	Do they get a sweetie, Phos?

	Quote:	Ouchboy
	People asking for untrolled threads or threads without witty retorts are ridiculous. It's like asking for no pee in a pool.... people do it, deal with it.

Yes, this. And, we are even talking candy and piss, almost in the same post..

MusicChick · #**144** 21.02.2011, 15:29

	Quote:	summerrain
	I simply meant that I am done talking about this specific topic.

Yeah, I think we are all pretty much done.....for a bout 6mo, aren't we

summerrain · #**145** 21.02.2011, 15:32

	Quote:	Phos
	No, but you and the forum will smell better.

how is that statement "decent" phos?

#**146** 21.02.2011, 15:42

I'm just going to close by pointing out that the purpose of this forum is to stimulate the conversation and participation of its members. It thrives on the size and diversity of its members. Such a forum always needs new members, and we need members from diverse experiences and backgrounds. Some are newbies, and some are experts, but in any case, you need to let them interact. Not all conversations are for everybody. If you feel you have to read EVERY SINGLE post and comment on it, I suggest you keep that in check. Not every post is intended for everybody. And if you disagree or dislike a particular post, well, welcome to reality. It DOES NOT mean you have to get involved in every discussion.

This is the job of the mods, not to police or act like authorities. The kind of anti-social behavior cited by these threads work against these principles, and does impact the progression of this forum. It impacts it from a content, as well as business operation perspective. Ultimately, it works against the forum itself.

Ouchboy · #**147** 21.02.2011, 15:58

	Quote:	Phos
	Ultimately, it works against the forum itself.

Given that it happens over and over and over again... I'm gonna go ahead and venture the following statement: " It seems that it actually doesn't."

... it however, makes mod's lifes much more difficult.

	Quote:	Phos
	I'm just going to close by pointing out that the purpose of this forum is to stimulate the conversation and participation of its members.

Actually, without a mission statement from the page, you can't really be sure. But your so commented "anti-social" behaviour appears to have done your stated purpose in a very effective way, sometimes much more so than normal threads.

#**148** 21.02.2011, 16:03

	Quote:
	Do they get a sweetie, Phos?

No but you get the prize of a pm to the misses asking for a post deletion for posting crap.

Nickers · #**149** 21.02.2011, 17:04

	Quote:	Cata1yst
	2. This is becoming an annoyance as well as my points made earlier there used to be a policy to delete such crap immediately. Obviously things have changed as EF grown however if this policy is carried out routinely it can only discourage the constant posters of crap (as within this thread) and make them think if it is really worth hitting the submit key in the knowlege the post will disappear.

As a once mod I can say that the mods went down the route to try and stop the mindless chatter and jibberish in recent times - what followed were internet public lynchings of certain mods who tried to clean up the crap and trolling by banning members and deleting threads, closing threads cleaning up threads etc...

With the loss of a great leader who backed up his mod team came a new leader who doesn't like to get involved in the day to day shenanigans and is rarely available to back up the mods decisions (I don't actually blame him, why would he want to bother? it's not his baby after all)

Anyway for me it became a bore to try and appease the masses, the fluffsters on one side and the thugs on the other so with very good reasons I bowed out. I applaud the ones left behind who carry on having to deal with crap threads like these and many others.

#**150** 21.02.2011, 17:37

	Quote:	Nil

Someone delete this please it's annoying, sorry nil take it elsewhere.

AbFab · #**151** 21.02.2011, 17:41

	Quote:	Cata1yst
	Someone delete this please it's annoying, sorry nil take it elsewhere.

Please refer to post #149...

#**152** 21.02.2011, 17:43

	Quote:	Cata1yst
	Someone delete this please it's annoying, sorry nil take it elsewhere.

Just PM Nil nicely, then delete yours. Less work for the Mods.

Let reason prevail.

#**153** 21.02.2011, 17:49

	Quote:	Nicky
	Anyway for me it became a bore to try and appease the masses, the fluffsters on one side and the thugs on the other so with very good reasons I bowed out. I applaud the ones left behind who carry on having to deal with crap threads like these and many others.

So I take it you're not interested in a 24hr. Mod Pass...? (Tages-Mod'er)

Nickers · #**154** 21.02.2011, 18:02

	Quote:	vwild1
	So I take it you're not interested in a 24hr. Mod Pass...? (Tages-Mod'er)

Oh a 24 hour pass to snoop behind the scenes would appease my nosiness for sure

MusicChick · #**155** 21.02.2011, 18:12

	Quote:	Nicky
	Oh a 24 hour pass to snoop behind the scenes would appease my nosiness for sure

Is that the reason why busy mods don't post much? I wish they did...

#**156** 21.02.2011, 18:48

My only comment on this thread is please, please close it mods, it is & always was a complete waste of time.

(if anything it shows how tolerant & supportive of free speech mods are but if I was one I would have shot it from the word go)

Nil · #**157** 21.02.2011, 18:59

	Quote:	transition
	My only comment on this thread is please, please close it mods, it is & always was a complete waste of time. (if anything it shows how tolerant & supportive of free speech mods are but if I was one I would have shot it from the word go)

Believe me, this thread was much more worthed that most of you can even imagine.... Not everything is said in the front scene...

#**158** 21.02.2011, 18:59

	Quote:	transition
	My only comment on this thread is please, please close it mods, it is & always was a complete waste of time. (if anything it shows how tolerant & supportive of free speech mods are but if I was one I would have shot it from the word go)

Yeah me too. The first one was fun, all that righteous indignation from people with a post count of 150 made up entirely of posts on that thread but now it's just boring. Kill em all.

basel therapist · #**159** 21.02.2011, 19:14

I would like to thank Breagh, Biff and Nil for fighting to keep this thread open.

When the thread I put my post on was closed shortly after I had put it there and my own thread was closed - literally within seconds of being placed - I thought that was it. I went to bed believing that the forum was a place where open discussion by members was not allowed when moderators didn't like the content of the question that was being asked. There role seemed to be one of censorship rather than one of Moderation.

The e mail support from the above members (and others) and their hard work and perseverance has resulted in a clear and open statement from many members of how they feel about the content and style of posts. I must admit to being impressed by the work of some moderators to allow this debate to be heard and to place it back onto the new posts page after it had been moved to forum support. Thank-you!

Despite some notable (and no doubt inevitable) exceptions I believe the debate has been frank and adult and worthwhile.

Unfortunately I am too busy working to be able to spend much time on the forum these days but I have been trying to keep up with the posts as they have occurred and I am reassured that the forum is a place where new members can have a voice and where the needs of the total community (and not just the old hands) are being listened too. I only wish I could have played a more central part in the debate. It didn’t however need me too!

Thank-you English Forum!

#**160** 21.02.2011, 19:39

	Quote:	transition
	My only comment on this thread is please, please close it mods, it is & always was a complete waste of time.

Damned if we do and damned if we don't.

ok, time to let this train wreck come to a rest..