Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Support > Support > Forum support
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #61  
Old 11.07.2013, 18:41
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: KLOTEN
Posts: 23
Groaned at 7 Times in 3 Posts
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
stubmw has annoyed a few people around herestubmw has annoyed a few people around herestubmw has annoyed a few people around here
Re: 4 messages in 1440 mins

Quote:
View Post
You called Gata and Mirfield "odd silly people". Not only silly, but odd . Have you met them???
Sorry no I have not met them, but hey why would I want too ?
I commented they did not like it tough.
I do appreciate your comments and I will take notice of what you said.
but I came here to work start a new life, away from silliness in the UK and on here for some help.
Many Thanks time to move on from this subject.
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 11.07.2013, 18:44
adrianlondon's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Basel
Posts: 9,200
Groaned at 193 Times in 176 Posts
Thanked 25,643 Times in 6,892 Posts
adrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 4 messages in 1440 mins

Quote:
View Post
Gata and mirfield, Those replies shows the level of your intelligence.
Would it help if I posted ten posts
help with banks
help with insurance
help with moving
help with clinics
help with doctors
Probably not I presume.
No, because it proves you can't do anything yourself, including search the answers already given here, or actually come up with 10 decent unanswered questions (which would be very welcome!). And instead you want to send private messages full of questions so only you can be helped by the answers. Selfish. And creepy.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank adrianlondon for this useful post:
This user groans at adrianlondon for this post:
  #63  
Old 11.07.2013, 18:46
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: KLOTEN
Posts: 23
Groaned at 7 Times in 3 Posts
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
stubmw has annoyed a few people around herestubmw has annoyed a few people around herestubmw has annoyed a few people around here
Re: 4 messages in 1440 mins

Quote:
View Post
No, because it proves you can't do anything yourself, including search the answers already given here, or actually come up with 10 decent unanswered questions (which would be very welcome!). And instead you want to send private messages full of questions so only you can be helped by the answers. Selfish. And creepy.
Thanks typical English
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users groan at stubmw for this post:
  #64  
Old 11.07.2013, 19:02
Dougal's Breakfast's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: GL
Posts: 16,445
Groaned at 1,045 Times in 807 Posts
Thanked 43,550 Times in 13,473 Posts
Dougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 4 messages in 1440 mins

Quote:
View Post
but I came here to work start a new life
You are Gary Glitter and I claim my five pounds!

(Yeah, but really: new life? You're hoping, aintcha? Best you can hope for is a "better life". But even then it's the same one you've been blessed with since you came screaming and slimy into the world. Reasonable expectations and all that, eh? )
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Dougal's Breakfast for this useful post:
  #65  
Old 11.07.2013, 19:34
Slaphead's Avatar
Moderato espressivo
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Zürich
Posts: 3,243
Groaned at 41 Times in 37 Posts
Thanked 9,408 Times in 2,870 Posts
Slaphead has a reputation beyond reputeSlaphead has a reputation beyond reputeSlaphead has a reputation beyond reputeSlaphead has a reputation beyond reputeSlaphead has a reputation beyond reputeSlaphead has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 4 messages in 1440 mins

Quote:
View Post
...or actually come up with 10 decent unanswered questions (which would be very welcome!).
Well that would be a bloody miracle. I think we've had one original non answered question in the past year. Adrian, you're a hard task master

Stubby, or whatever, you're the cause of your undoing on this forum at the moment. You're acting like an overprivileged spoilt brat at the moment - the forum doesn't allow you to do what you want it to do so you throw your toys out of your pram. There are very good reasons for the limitations on PMs for new members and they're not going to altered anytime soon. I'm not going to explain the reasons as other members have already explained.

If you want to be a part of this community then this me me me attitude is not going to work, and nor is slagging off other long term respected members who have put a lot into this forum.

It doesn't matter who you are, where you live, how much you earn, what job you have. The people on this forum don't judge on that, but judge rather on how you carry yourself on the forum. If you want to behave like a tit then fine, but be prepared to be shot down.

Anyway post your questions. Even if they have been answered before there are generally people who will answer and not simply tell you to do a search. To be honest I don't think there are many unanswered questions left.
__________________
...allegedly.
Reply With Quote
The following 8 users would like to thank Slaphead for this useful post:
  #66  
Old 11.07.2013, 19:44
taskalem's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lausanne
Posts: 242
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 160 Times in 96 Posts
taskalem is considered knowledgeabletaskalem is considered knowledgeabletaskalem is considered knowledgeable
Re: 4 messages in 1440 mins

Quote:
View Post
Thanks typical English
I'm not English, I have no English relatives in my family back in hundred years; but even I am offended from that comment mate! That's a very racist comment even looked from a very positivist angle...

Since I'm not a legend I can write more freely
It's okay that you might not agree with the rules of the forum; nobody needs to agree on anything; and if there were more people like you (10-20), I am sure you would be taken into account by the forum mods and they would start questioning this 4 PM/day rule to a more flexible one. But what I see is it's only you against a 10-15 people group which are all in favor of it; so I don't see any point in changing it for one person only when it might lead to certain spam features and increase frustration with a bigger crowd. Don't forget "needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". And you have the freedom to leave the forum whenever you deem appropriate; you don't need to say bye, we won't even remember you. More importantly nobody would / could be remembered, this is a virtual environment in the end.

Important note: I have just realized this rule since I spent most of my rookie days in searching the forum and trying to understand how things go; I reached the 1week / 10 post without even noticing it. I believe that should be the way in general. Joining a forum and immediately sending PMs to everybody looks suspicious in the first hand if not more...
Reply With Quote
The following 6 users would like to thank taskalem for this useful post:
  #67  
Old 11.07.2013, 19:56
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: KLOTEN
Posts: 23
Groaned at 7 Times in 3 Posts
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
stubmw has annoyed a few people around herestubmw has annoyed a few people around herestubmw has annoyed a few people around here
Re: 4 messages in 1440 mins

Quote:
View Post
Well that would be a bloody miracle. I think we've had one original non answered question in the past year. Adrian, you're a hard task master

Stubby, or whatever, you're the cause of your undoing on this forum at the moment. You're acting like an overprivileged spoilt brat at the moment - the forum doesn't allow you to do what you want it to do so you throw your toys out of your pram. There are very good reasons for the limitations on PMs for new members and they're not going to altered anytime soon. I'm not going to explain the reasons as other members have already explained.

If you want to be a part of this community then this me me me attitude is not going to work, and nor is slagging off other long term respected members who have put a lot into this forum.

It doesn't matter who you are, where you live, how much you earn, what job you have. The people on this forum don't judge on that, but judge rather on how you carry yourself on the forum. If you want to behave like a tit then fine, but be prepared to be shot down.

Anyway post your questions. Even if they have been answered before there are generally people who will answer and not simply tell you to do a search. To be honest I don't think there are many unanswered questions left.
A point well made
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank stubmw for this useful post:
  #68  
Old 11.07.2013, 20:01
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: KLOTEN
Posts: 23
Groaned at 7 Times in 3 Posts
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
stubmw has annoyed a few people around herestubmw has annoyed a few people around herestubmw has annoyed a few people around here
Re: 4 messages in 1440 mins

Quote:
View Post
I'm not English, I have no English relatives in my family back in hundred years; but even I am offended from that comment mate! That's a very racist comment even looked from a very positivist angle...

Since I'm not a legend I can write more freely
It's okay that you might not agree with the rules of the forum; nobody needs to agree on anything; and if there were more people like you (10-20), I am sure you would be taken into account by the forum mods and they would start questioning this 4 PM/day rule to a more flexible one. But what I see is it's only you against a 10-15 people group which are all in favor of it; so I don't see any point in changing it for one person only when it might lead to certain spam features and increase frustration with a bigger crowd. Don't forget "needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". And you have the freedom to leave the forum whenever you deem appropriate; you don't need to say bye, we won't even remember you. More importantly nobody would / could be remembered, this is a virtual environment in the end.

Important note: I have just realized this rule since I spent most of my rookie days in searching the forum and trying to understand how things go; I reached the 1week / 10 post without even noticing it. I believe that should be the way in general. Joining a forum and immediately sending PMs to everybody looks suspicious in the first hand if not more...
You are quite right and I apologise if I offend you. all I made was a point and an opinion. never expected to be insulted, nor did I mean to offend. But as first time on here I think every one has an opinion regard the rules or not, Yes we all have to stick by them but, when you are newbie I should not be provoked to childish abuse on here.which I did mention but only for others to support them.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank stubmw for this useful post:
  #69  
Old 11.07.2013, 20:25
hannah'sauntie's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Baden
Posts: 4,667
Groaned at 25 Times in 23 Posts
Thanked 6,477 Times in 2,932 Posts
hannah'sauntie has a reputation beyond reputehannah'sauntie has a reputation beyond reputehannah'sauntie has a reputation beyond reputehannah'sauntie has a reputation beyond reputehannah'sauntie has a reputation beyond reputehannah'sauntie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 4 messages in 1440 mins

Quote:
View Post
Most people / websites would have a ( report spammers button / complaints) in box. And if this website is unable to do this maybe , one of us could reconfigure it for you.

The red triangle above each post is to report the post as spam etc.
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 26.11.2014, 17:31
Mrs. Doolittle's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Aargau
Posts: 5,729
Groaned at 149 Times in 107 Posts
Thanked 6,615 Times in 3,133 Posts
Mrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond reputeMrs. Doolittle has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 4 messages in 1440 mins

I understand the PM limit to stop spanners, but we still have people with 0 post counts able to send PMs which makes NO sense to me, while newbies looking in the marketplace who need items which people like me are selling are stuck with this rule limiting PMs for newbies.

Maybe the newbie has nothing to contribute yet as he is too busy trying to just get settled into a new place.

All I am saying is that this post limit is unfair to some legitimate newbies. I don't necessarily want to give my email address or phone number to someone in my initial reply because that is the only way they can correspond with me outside the PM system. But that is the only option under the current structure.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old 26.11.2014, 17:50
mirfield's Avatar
Moddy McModface
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Basel
Posts: 8,472
Groaned at 56 Times in 50 Posts
Thanked 8,832 Times in 3,251 Posts
mirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 4 messages in 1440 mins

Quote:
View Post
I understand the PM limit to stop spanners, but we still have people with 0 post counts able to send PMs which makes NO sense to me, while newbies looking in the marketplace who need items which people like me are selling are stuck with this rule limiting PMs for newbies.

Maybe the newbie has nothing to contribute yet as he is too busy trying to just get settled into a new place.

All I am saying is that this post limit is unfair to some legitimate newbies. I don't necessarily want to give my email address or phone number to someone in my initial reply because that is the only way they can correspond with me outside the PM system. But that is the only option under the current structure.
You want us to personally vet "good" newbies vs. "bad" ones? Or maybe read their PMs before forwarding on?

It's not ideal, but in an ideal world there'd be no need for limits because there'd be no spammers.
Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old 26.11.2014, 20:51
3Wishes's Avatar
Moderately Amused
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bern area
Posts: 7,330
Groaned at 49 Times in 45 Posts
Thanked 11,016 Times in 5,168 Posts
3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 4 messages in 1440 mins

Quote:
View Post
I understand the PM limit to stop spanners, but we still have people with 0 post counts able to send PMs which makes NO sense to me, while newbies looking in the marketplace who need items which people like me are selling are stuck with this rule limiting PMs for newbies...
Keep in mind that the post count you see does not include posts in Marketplace or Off-Topic. Many newbies with a count of 0 have actually posted a few times, but not in a place where it adds to the post total. If the user has made any posts, you can find them by clicking on the username and choosing "find all posts by" from the drop-down.

PS - When you receive a PM from a newbie, you have the option of sharing your email address with them to help facilitate communication if they run into the PM limit rule. Feel free to make up a random gmail account or whatever for just that purpose.

Last edited by 3Wishes; 26.11.2014 at 20:53. Reason: forgot something
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank 3Wishes for this useful post:
  #73  
Old 17.02.2017, 12:36
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: zug
Posts: 34
Groaned at 2 Times in 1 Post
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
nextmans has slipped a little
Re: 4 messages in 1440 mins

I think also to take in consideration, is that this forum is recommended to various people, who have just arrived in Switzerland. I was recommended this forum and have also recommended it further to others.

Now bearing that in mind, logic would suggest most people will be here looking for certain services, help with legal stuff, moves, marketplace stuff. So trying to arrange this, say when you are talking with multiple sellers, 4 PM per 24 hours is a tad low. I think also that whilst there is the rules and regs, this isn't something that clearly sticks out to new joiners. Now, I'm not suggesting a whole on-boarding process and several HR meetings. But this could be one idea for the suggestion box. Things like this are not highlighted enough, and often get found out when its too late and the limit has been hit. This really only serves to increase frustration in the new joiner, and then ultimately ends up in some sort of us vs them argument, which doesn't really help anyone.

I'm not agreeing with either side here, just pointing out what I see.
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old 17.02.2017, 12:56
Medea Fleecestealer's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Misery-Courtion
Posts: 17,203
Groaned at 291 Times in 223 Posts
Thanked 12,658 Times in 7,255 Posts
Medea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 4 messages in 1440 mins

Again, precisely why this is limited. The forum is mainly a source of information, not somewhere to contact legal services, buy/sell, get movers, etc.

Honestly, if you give yourself enough time to organise a move then the 4 posts in 24 hours shouldn't be a problem for you. It doesn't take much to gain full access to the forum - unlimited PM's, Marketplace, etc - if only you put a little effort into it. Also sometimes members have their e-mail addresses in their profiles and that can be used if your PM limit is reached.
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old 17.02.2017, 13:01
grumpygrapefruit's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Zuriwest
Posts: 5,414
Groaned at 35 Times in 34 Posts
Thanked 13,569 Times in 3,524 Posts
grumpygrapefruit has a reputation beyond reputegrumpygrapefruit has a reputation beyond reputegrumpygrapefruit has a reputation beyond reputegrumpygrapefruit has a reputation beyond reputegrumpygrapefruit has a reputation beyond reputegrumpygrapefruit has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 4 messages in 1440 mins

The rule is there to stop spammers. But I also often get PM's from new members asking me for advice on importing or running a business here (they say they've seen a few threads with advice from me). If I can be bothered to reply I tell them to ask the question on the forum, that way everyone can benefit from the answer. That's the whole point of the forum.

Seriously, I doubt I send 4 messages in 24 days, never mind 24 hours and as Medea say's, many members allow messages to email.
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank grumpygrapefruit for this useful post:
  #76  
Old 17.02.2017, 13:17
roegner's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Zurich
Posts: 5,814
Groaned at 193 Times in 168 Posts
Thanked 6,170 Times in 3,122 Posts
roegner has a reputation beyond reputeroegner has a reputation beyond reputeroegner has a reputation beyond reputeroegner has a reputation beyond reputeroegner has a reputation beyond reputeroegner has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 4 messages in 1440 mins

Quote:
View Post
Now bearing that in mind, logic would suggest most people will be here looking for certain services, moves, marketplace stuff.


Uhmmm, no.


Go to Ricardo or Ebay?
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank roegner for this useful post:
  #77  
Old 17.02.2017, 13:38
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: zug
Posts: 34
Groaned at 2 Times in 1 Post
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
nextmans has slipped a little
Yep, generally this and generally that. Generally on a sunny day, the sky is blue and the grass is green. But there are exceptions. It's how you choose to deal with the exceptions. Over the many years, I'm sure you have had very many exceptions, hence the additions and removals of sections to the site, rule amendments, etc. It's what has made this forum what it is today. However, nothing is perfect and there is always room for improvement.

Again, this wasn't a defense of anyone on this particular thread, but take away all the insults and name calling, there are very valid points on BOTH sides.

Just to clarify, I'm happy enough to keep posting and wait the 7 days. If the person I was arranging stuff with had posted in my thread rather than made contact directly via PM, I wouldn't have this issue. The situation is more of a frustration than the rule. I think things like this can be highlighted to new joiners. I'm a member at forums for my other interests in UK, and I knew exactly where I was when I joined, how many posts before the stabilisers come off etc.

Its just a suggestion, but maybe some of you are not open to them. I see some negativity in the comments here, maybe that wasn't helped by the tone set by some of the new joiners earlier in the thread, but like I said, take away the name calling and there is actually valid points on each side. Just doesn't seem to be much "discussion" happening here, and not only in this thread. Its purely the new joiner saying "I want this" and some of the Mods\Legends\Superusers saying "No, this is how it is"...

Sure it doesn't help when new people forget their manners. This is your forum and there should be a level of respect for the job you guys have done. But some of the powers-that-be here also could do with reigning it in a tad.

Quote:
View Post
The rule is there to stop spammers. But I also often get PM's from new members asking me for advice on importing or running a business here (they say they've seen a few threads with advice from me). If I can be bothered to reply I tell them to ask the question on the forum, that way everyone can benefit from the answer. That's the whole point of the forum.

Seriously, I doubt I send 4 messages in 24 days, never mind 24 hours and as Medea say's, many members allow messages to email.
Yes sure, I asked for recommendation for someone to help me move. I got more PMs from existing members than posts back in the thread I created. What should I do with that?

Just saying. It's not like people can't see that I'm new here.

Quote:
View Post
Uhmmm, no.


Go to Ricardo or Ebay?
Lol...yes I'll just check how many people can recommend an accountant on eBay...

...because there no section for that kind of query on this forum right?


Last edited by 3Wishes; 17.02.2017 at 21:48. Reason: merging consecutive replies
Reply With Quote
  #78  
Old 17.02.2017, 14:02
Medea Fleecestealer's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Misery-Courtion
Posts: 17,203
Groaned at 291 Times in 223 Posts
Thanked 12,658 Times in 7,255 Posts
Medea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 4 messages in 1440 mins

Quote:
View Post
Lol...yes I'll just check how many people can recommend an accountant on eBay...

...because there no section for that kind of query on this forum right?

No, but you can easily use the search function here on the forum to find threads on the subject which do. And if none are in your area you can start a thread asking for recommendations, which again ensures the info is available to all members, new and old.
Reply With Quote
  #79  
Old 17.02.2017, 14:11
roegner's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Zurich
Posts: 5,814
Groaned at 193 Times in 168 Posts
Thanked 6,170 Times in 3,122 Posts
roegner has a reputation beyond reputeroegner has a reputation beyond reputeroegner has a reputation beyond reputeroegner has a reputation beyond reputeroegner has a reputation beyond reputeroegner has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 4 messages in 1440 mins

Quote:
View Post
I
Now bearing that in mind, logic would suggest most people will be here looking for certain services, help with legal stuff, moves, marketplace stuff.
Quote:
View Post
Lol...yes I'll just check how many people can recommend an accountant on eBay...

...because there no section for that kind of query on this forum right?



:-P


Or?
Reply With Quote
  #80  
Old 17.02.2017, 14:11
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: zug
Posts: 34
Groaned at 2 Times in 1 Post
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
nextmans has slipped a little
Quote:
View Post
No, but you can easily use the search function here on the forum to find threads on the subject which do. And if none are in your area you can start a thread asking for recommendations, which again ensures the info is available to all members, new and old.
Yes exactly my point, that this is a very relevant reason for using this forum. I've not met any of the Legends or Mods that heavily contribute to this site, but everyone I know personally that uses this forum is searching for services or items. For a lot of people, its very high on their list of reasons for visiting your forum. For some people, the personal recommendation goes a long way, even if they don't personally know the recommend-er themselves. Like TripAdvisor, people will make choices based on other people reviews.

Quote:
View Post
:-P


Or?
epic fail on my sarcasm there...none of you got it

Last edited by 3Wishes; 17.02.2017 at 21:51. Reason: merging consecutive replies
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Visitor Messages - how to avoid olygirl Forum support 4 01.02.2011 00:36
Reporting messages nqnln Forum support 17 05.08.2010 19:54
Cant see my private messages Dani G. Forum support 5 16.01.2009 16:32
Subliminal Messages Scott Jokes/funnies 5 13.07.2008 19:01
Sunrise messages?? Lynn TV/internet/telephone 3 13.03.2006 01:51


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 20:41.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0