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Old 07.07.2011, 14:48
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Sorry, not what I had in mind, I think if this is a lean forum, it will reduce the chances of people not searching (I find searching very hard because of all the outdated junk), so I am suggesting deleting all threads (except stickies) over a year old (maybe a simple program will automate the process: any thread not stickied by a mod will automatically go to the dump. Barring 1-2 threads, I have never had reason to revisit a thread older than 1 year. I can see it can affect reputation, posting stats etc., but I think those are trivial.
It would be a bad idea to have a blanket cull. I frequently find old posts interesting and useful. Any 'cull' would provoke too much outrage ("OMG! Where did my favourite thread go......"), as what is irrelevant to some is valued by others. It would also be a lot of work.

Admittedly there is a lot of junk here and in-crowd joshing but you just have to try getting a bit cleverer with your searching to avoid them. There is actually quite a simple solution. In the Search page, just set your search preferences to "A Year Ago and Newer" then save your search preferences. Bingo.
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Old 07.07.2011, 14:49
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Barring 1-2 threads, I have never had reason to revisit a thread older than 1 year.
Just because that is the case for you, does not mean that is the case for everyone.

Aside from that, even assuming that very few of us are reading very few "old threads" or "old posts," the chances that we're all referencing the same old posts are exceedingly slim.


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Yeah, off-topic, but I second this excellent suggestion. I am on EF primarily for the sports and fitness forum and I can speak about it: About 1% of the posts are useful and of enduring value; the rest are small talk, banter, or things that are no longer useful after the date has passed. I don't see much value in archiving posts. It heavily clutters the forum and makes searching harder.

For posts over a year old, anything of value should be merged and stickied (about 10-20 for each forum), ALL others threads/posts should be trashed. I know it won't happen, but just saying
To those for whom the forum is merely a place to access and deposit information in the strictest sense, I could see this being an attractive proposition.

For "everyone" else, the folks who use the forum as something of jumping off point for meeting other English-speaking expats, I think that would be a horrible idea. I am really not keen to meet folks who are cut-and-dry all the time, having some banter and so on to see and very occasionally go back to (reading over someone's post history to get a "feel" for their personality for example) helps settle my decision whether or not to venture forth. I am sure I am not the only one who feels like this.
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Old 07.07.2011, 14:53
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Re: Why do moderators keep merging posts

Some forums have the option to tick a box called something like "auto-delete this post after 30 days". If we had that and used it when typing banter or silly jokes or winding somebody up, then only the really useful stuff would survive long-term and the problem of ancient junk threads would be reduced.
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Old 07.07.2011, 14:59
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Some forums have the option to tick a box called something like "auto-delete this post after 30 days". If we had that and used it when typing banter or silly jokes or winding somebody up, then only the really useful stuff would survive long-term and the problem of ancient junk threads would be reduced.
But if, for example, I wound someone up back in 2009 and you then deleted that thread, I'd need to wind them up all over again! And what would happen if they had left the EF by then? I'd have to track them down and wind them up on a different forum; it's too much hard work.
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Your outdated junk is Ouchboy's treasured lolcat moment of glory.
link please

if you delete those posts, then the brown sugar question will pop up again and again and..
oh wait....
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Old 07.07.2011, 15:02
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Re: Why do moderators keep merging posts

Dear Wikipedia,

I find posts on Medieval History dull, and history in general is bunk.

I quite like spaceships though, and have doubts about the moon landings.

Please could you remove anything before 1961 because it's clogging up my internet.

Yours etc.,
Mirfield*


*Which reminds me. Geography is boring too. Please could you remove anything not to do with Mirfield or Basel. I won't read it anyway.
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Old 07.07.2011, 15:05
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Re: Why do moderators keep merging posts

Question: Why do moderators keep merging posts ?
Answer: Because they can...
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Old 07.07.2011, 15:11
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link please

if you delete those posts, then the brown sugar question will pop up again and again and..
oh wait....
That is a very valid point. People who actually use the search function may find the information they need without having to reply.

If the old threads were deleted, we could not refer people to the search function or old thread
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Re: Why do moderators keep merging posts

ummm, what is threaded mode?
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Old 07.07.2011, 15:21
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ummm, what is threaded mode?
Top right corner: Display modes...
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ummm, what is threaded mode?
It's explained here.





That's whats would happen.
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ummm, what is threaded mode?
If you were around for Usenet, it's how messages were organized there.
Otherwise, it's a little like Gmail 'conversations'.

Go to the top of this thread, click the "Display mode" dropdown just underneath the page number links, and try it out.
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Old 07.07.2011, 15:23
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Top right corner: Display modes...
You can also manage overall settings here, including the number of posts per page:

http://www.englishforum.ch/profile.php?do=editoptions
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Old 07.07.2011, 15:30
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No - but there is an incentive to reduce the number of repeated threads. Duplication leads to duplication. The fewer threads you have on a single topic - the easier it is for people to find the answer to a similar question.
because most mods are thickos who don't use threaded mode (if they even know about it) and couldn't care less about messing up the threadedness. plus a few have a rare OCD condition and merging posts is a kind of experimental therapy for them.

would be good if the forum software could warn of this. e.g. STOP: merging of different sub-threads detected do you want to continue? (Yes, I am a moron) (No, leave it as god intended).
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Old 07.07.2011, 15:32
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Sorry, not what I had in mind, I think if this is a lean forum, it will reduce the chances of people not searching (I find searching very hard because of all the outdated junk), so I am suggesting deleting all threads (except stickies) over a year old (maybe a simple program will automate the process: any thread not stickied by a mod will automatically go to the dump. Barring 1-2 threads, I have never had reason to revisit a thread older than 1 year. I can see it can affect reputation, posting stats etc., but I think those are trivial.
not a bad idea. i guess any thread which has not been replied to or viewed in a year or two could be automatically culled.
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Update: multiquote doesn't work well with threaded mode. Sorry guys. A multiquoted reply is threaded onto the post chronologically preceding it (i.e. last post of the thread for those viewing in linear mode) rather than onto any of the posts you are quoting.
yes. normal forum etiquette is not to multi-quote different sub-threads but to quote and reply to each sub-thread separately to allow people to choose which thread to continue.

however, since most threads on here are small (<250) then it's not too bad to have a free for all and have major sub-threads split out into their own thread as required.
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I find Phil's unmultiquoted posts very disturbing....
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Are there any silver-surfer courses in the use of the EF?
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Old 07.07.2011, 15:46
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If you were around for Usenet, it's how messages were organized there.
Using a newsreader and lining up your posts in threaded mode was the only way to properly follow a thread in the good ol days of Usenet but here in a browser "threaded mode" is a joke and doesn't even come close to replicating the true ease of use a newsreader provided back then.
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Using a newsreader and lining up your posts in threaded mode was the only way to properly follow a thread in the good ol days of Usenet but here in a browser "threaded mode" is a joke and doesn't even come close to replicating the true ease of use a newsreader provided back then.
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