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Old 18.08.2011, 16:41
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Forum rules - can they be more detailed?

Would it be possible to make the forum rules on this site a bit more detailed so that members know where they stand?


For example, the rules do not indicate that
  • "spam" may be considered to be something other than "the creation of messages that are advertisements on Internet forums" (Wikipedia) and can result in a ban
  • creating a second profile (e.g. for greater anonymity) will result in an immediate ban that also affects the orginal profile
  • individual posts may be deleted even if they are not obcene, vulgar, offensive, etc.
The forum guidelines on EF's sister site seem to be clearer.
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Old 18.08.2011, 16:53
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Re: Forum rules - can they be more detailed?

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For example, the rules do not indicate that
  • "spam" may be considered to be something other than "the creation of messages that are advertisements on Internet forums" (Wikipedia) and can result in a ban
  • creating a second profile (e.g. for greater anonymity) will result in an immediate ban that also affects the orginal profile
  • individual posts may be deleted even if they are not obcene, vulgar, offensive, etc.
It says "The owners of English Forum Switzerland reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason."
Which I think covers all manner of evils and leaves the mods able to use their discretion rather than being rule enforcers and having long discussions about exactly if some action was as per the rules.
But a thread about do's and dont's as guidance could be useful.
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Old 18.08.2011, 16:58
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Re: Forum rules - can they be more detailed?

The more detailed the rules are, the less discretion the mods have. This may or may not be a good thing... Also, if you have more detailed rules, you end up with clever-dicks arguing that they're post wasn't technically in breach.

The basic rule of internet forums is: don't do anything that irritates the mods. They're quick to anger, and not all that subtle.
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Old 18.08.2011, 17:00
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The more detailed the rules are, the less discretion the mods have. This may or may not be a good thing... Also, if you have more detailed rules, you end up with clever-dicks arguing that they're post wasn't technically in breach.

The basic rule of internet forums is: don't do anything that irritates the mods. They're quick to anger, and not all that subtle.
I think they do a pretty good job and get very few thanks...grovel, grovel
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Old 18.08.2011, 17:20
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Re: Forum rules - can they be more detailed?

I learnt pretty quickly when I created a 2nd profile for a laugh that it was wrong (I was going to wind up a friend)...I was banned until I spoke to a mod and was forgiven for my transgression.
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Old 18.08.2011, 17:24
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I learnt pretty quickly when I created a 2nd profile for a laugh that it was wrong (I was going to wind up a friend)...I was banned until I spoke to a mod and was forgiven for my transgression.
I owned up to my second profile after about 3 years (discovered when I got two Happy Birthday messages).

They banned my old profile. Which was a pity 'cos the profile number was nice and low. And it hadn't posted as much crap as this one.
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Old 18.08.2011, 17:45
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Would it be possible to make the forum rules on this site a bit more detailed so that members know where they stand?

The forum guidelines on EF's sister site seem to be clearer.
EF has a different approach than ToyTownGermany, we have the rules posted at the top of most areas of the forum where as TTG only has them posted on their Wiki. On TTG they're not even using the word "rules" rather they call them "guidelines" because as everyone can guess, modding a forum is not an exact science.

Today's Mod team (in my opinion) does a pretty good job behind the scenes working together and in harmony. You'd be surprised just how much discussion goes on in The Mod Zone on how to deal with different problems as they arise in the forum.

Your suggestion that we create one single page of "rules" (or guidelines), though a good idea will naturally first need to be discussed in the Mod Zone.

thanks.
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Old 18.08.2011, 17:53
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Would it be possible to make the forum rules on this site a bit more detailed so that members know where they stand?




For example, the rules do not indicate that
  • "spam" may be considered to be something other than "the creation of messages that are advertisements on Internet forums" (Wikipedia) and can result in a ban
  • creating a second profile (e.g. for greater anonymity) will result in an immediate ban that also affects the orginal profile
  • individual posts may be deleted even if they are not obcene, vulgar, offensive, etc.
The forum guidelines on EF's sister site seem to be clearer.
I've been told in the past something to the extent of "we can't tell you what the rules are, but when you cross a line we'll let you know". Okay, maybe that's an exaggeration, but I do prefer an environment in which common sense is held above the rulebook rather than vice versa.

Creating multiple identities sounds a bit dodgy to me. Why do you want extra anonymity? Your regular profile is normally anonymous enough as long as you don't post personal details. I'm sure that over the years I've posted enough stuff that somebody who is sufficiently smart can work out who I am. But does it matter?
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Old 18.08.2011, 18:08
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Re: Forum rules - can they be more detailed?

It makes sense to have a clear set of rules in one place for the items that are definitive: double identities, posting limits etc.

As mentioned, for the more vague items: Posting spam, trolling, deletion of posts etc. guidelines are all that can be expected. These are a matter of interpretation and personal opinion. I guess that, to some extent, mods relate to the opinion of other members as much as their own thoughts.
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Old 18.08.2011, 18:16
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You'd be surprised just how much discussion goes on in The Mod Zone on how to deal with different problems as they arise in the forum.
Hey, at least it is no longer about me!
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Old 19.08.2011, 06:48
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Re: Forum rules - can they be more detailed?

We used to have stickies at the top of each forum with some rules/guidelines. Can't be bothered to check everywhere but the one in housing is still there - which is supposed to prevent ads in that forum for a start. Ads like this one, mods .
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