To Groan or not to Groan, that is the question.

I read here that many people have very different views on this Forum. Most of us have a good command of English and are capable of explaining why or how they disagree with previous statements.

To simply groan because one disagrees with a statement, is in my view wrong. A groan is justified for insulting behaviour, or similar. Any groan should be backed by a proper lucid comment.

I think "Drive by" groaning should be banned. What are your views? And please no more groans!

[olygirl]

	Quote:	Ittigen
	And please no more groans!

Oh man, I want to groan at you so badly.

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I'm proud of my groans. They add character and show some feistiness.

It's all in the balance, my friend.

[Hedgehog of death]

I think it is about culture rather than communication TBH ...

It's ultimately divisive ....

[Upthehatters2008]

	Quote:	Ittigen
	I read here that many people have very different views on this Forum. Most of us have a good command of English and are capable of explaining why or how they disagree with previous statements. To simply groan because one disagrees with a statement, is in my view wrong. A groan is justified for insulting behaviour, or similar. Any groan should be backed by a proper lucid comment. I think "Drive by" groaning should be banned. What are your views? And please no more groans!

Hmmm, I disagree a bit , or would rather add my two penneth to your interpretation.

Sometimes I feel a groan is deserved for awful humour , or because I disagree strongly and feel I can prove my point. Groaning can also be done in parallel with disagreeing, because the groanee may be offering such an unenlightend ignorant point of view, lacking in tact or just plain stupid. "The Local" can get groaned for completely different reasons. A groan can also be interpreted as "Oh dear, here we go again" such as on Salary threads...

I would like to see an "I agree" or "I disagree" buttons, rather than thanks or groans. Unfortunately, "Retard" , "Ignoramus" , "Numbskull" and "Dickwad" will probably never make it for button options.

Drive by "Thanking" should then also be subject to the same rule, in that case. Don't thank if you can't give a reason for it...

[Carlos R]

	Quote:
	Drive by "Thanking" should then also be subject to the same rule, in that case. Don't thank if you can't give a reason for it...

Should I groan or thank you for that?

	Quote:	Carlos R
	Should I groan or thank you for that?

Just had my ??**+%& avocado squashed by a guy on the tram on the way back with my lunch. Go easy on me.

Thank you. I usually go back and remove the groan after a month. Look at my record.

[Nil]

Groan should be use the same way than Thanks.

I agree: Thanks.
I disagree: Groan.

It is when someone like Corsebou who goes around all your posts to groan fest in ''revenge'' that I have a problem with. Not that it is the groan itself but the action.

If someone wants the right to say what ever he wants on the freedom of speech base, he has to be able to accept that someone calls him an idiot base on this exact same concept and take it like a man.

So Groans, yes to express your feeling. Groan fest: no.

[Sada]

	Quote:	Upthehatters2008
	Unfortunately, "Retard" , "Ignoramus" , "Numbskull" and "Dickwad" will probably never make it for button options.

Obviously these would be meant for male members only right?!
You wouldn't dare calling a female that would you now! Would you? No he would not!!! Of course not.

[bigblue2]

drive by groaners are the most annoying thing about the forum, by all means disagree with me, call me names etc, but to just groan without joining in the discussion is out of order imho

[SwissAstrid]

I also think "I agree" and " I disagree" are much better...."groaning" is unsettling for the more sensitive types amongst us (like me )

[Sada]

well then, let's open an AR (Action Request) and see whether anyone knows how to reset those buttons.
they don't have "don't touch me" written on it do they?

[PaddyG]

Can we have an "I'd hit it" button please?

[Nil]

So Ittigen, I'll guess you disagreed?

[NotAllThere]

	Quote:	olygirl
	Oh man, I want to groan at you so badly. ...

I know. Must... resist...

If I disagree with you or think you've said something stupid, I'll groan you. I may explain, I may not. Mostly if I groan someone it's pretty self-evident what the issue is. My thanks-received are way ahead of my groans. That only concerns me, because it means that I'm being (hopefully) a helpful member of the community. If I pick up a few groans I'm not even going to notice.

The only person on my ignore list is someone who neg-repped me because I groaned them - and that was with an explanation.

[NotAllThere]

	Quote:	Sada
	Obviously these would be meant for male members only right?! You wouldn't dare calling a female that would you now! Would you? No he would not!!! Of course not.

No, we'd need "silly", "daft", "dizzy", "bint" for ladies. Dumb works for both though.

I think I'd better leave now.

[TitanTurbo10]

	Quote:
	Just had my ??**+%& avocado squashed by a guy on the tram on the way back with my lunch. Go easy on me.

You've been guacamoleed!

That is an example of a bad joke that could possibly be groaned.....if a groan didn't also mean "I disagree" or "Moron" or "You fascist b'stard". I think groans are ill-defined. And people, whether they are right or wrong, take them seriously.

Thanks are a little clearer, and most people don't get in a hump about thanks. I started a thread about 9/11 and before I submitted it I decided I was going to thank everyone who contributed a recollection as I was asking people to remember something potentially very painful to them. Groans aren't simply the opposite of Thanks.

[parnell]

	Quote:	Nil
	It is when someone like Corsebou who goes around all your posts to groan fest in ''revenge'' that I have a problem with. Not that it is the groan itself but the action.

Have you yourself ever engaged in this exact same behaviour ?
Certainly I have seen a post from a long time board member which suggested that you did.
If so then why do you point fingers at others ?

My personal view is that if a person can present a logical argument - and in particular avoid personally offensive remarks (a remark is such if directed at one's person and not one's logic) then those logical arguments are valid.

EDIT: I've observed/perceived that the thanks/groans stuff is abused in exactly the same way as it was on TT - it's simply a reflection of people's likes/dislike of one another and often a "ganging" up on one party develops - which is , in my opinion , an experssion of a person's ability to argue logically or inability to accept another's logical argument.

[Ouchboy]

	Quote:	PaddyG
	Can we have an "I'd hit it" button please?

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