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View Poll Results: Is EF Too Cliquey
It's not at all cliquey. 0 0%
Well, it is a bit cliquey, but not too cliquey. 18 22.50%
It's too cliquey, but I don't mind. 13 16.25%
It's too cliquey. It's intimidating to new members. 20 25.00%
I really don't care. I don't notice these things. 12 15.00%
I really don't care. I'm popular me. 9 11.25%
What.s a clique? 8 10.00%
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Old 20.09.2011, 22:51
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Is EF too cliquot?

Naw, not possible

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Old 20.09.2011, 23:13
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Re: Is EF too cliquey?

Of course it is cliquey, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Most often people come in here initially to get information as they are in a new country, and as they are in a new country find themselves inadvertently making friends, which alleviates the loneliness.

If you are talking about online specifically, this forum is unique as as there are so many diverse demographics interacting (with the only thing in common being the expat in Switzerland thing), that there is a lot more scope for different groups.
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Old 20.09.2011, 23:20
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Nil is at the next level. She doesn't have a clique, she has a fan club.
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Left to right: Mirfield, SwissAstrid, Angela-74, Odile, Yours Truly (tom tulpe), Dougal's Breakfast, MusicChick, Ittigen.

Or maybe not.
Not sure if I should take this as a compliment, already being associated with the famous EF clique or not, seeing as I went from Doutzen Kroes to this lady...
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Old 21.09.2011, 00:26
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Re: Is EF too cliquey?

I think that term has negative connotations that don't quite fit within the scope of EF.

I think that on the forum, there are folks who tend to follow each other because their sense of humor and life opinions run along well together, but I wouldn't necessarily call it "cliquey". Well, maybe that's because I tend to be / feel a bit "left of center" so maybe I don't see it as thoroughly as some?

I'd say that among the groups of folks who do spend "face time" together, "clique" is a more accurate description - but I also think that is natural, as people are not meant to be friends to everyone and so folks with commonalities tend to hang together.


On the other hand, to folks who are new, it can be quite hard. It is interesting to me that someone brought up "humor among native English-speakers" as the reality is that depending upon what country exactly that person is from, there can be some vast differences in what qualifies as "humor".

So, I think this is one of the things that maybe trips up newer folks, expecting that "everyone else" is getting something they're not. A likely truth is that only certain people are getting it, whether the understanding stems from a common background or a current common social sphere.


I remember feeling a bit stung at first, thinking I was getting a jump on things looking for a turkey a month or two before Thanksgiving - and I think my post was deleted as being a duplicate. Then again, socially, we Americans, who spend time in the South particularly, tend to sugar coat things quite a bit - and whomever did the deleting was definitely not a Southerner, bless their heart.
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Re: Is EF too cliquey?

From perspective of someone who isn't a big poster on any on-line thingy, just by nature of preferring to chat verbally than typing, and also on many EF threads any comments I might have made will have already been made a few times by time I read the thread so don't see need to add more of the same . . . . where is that space bar . . . .

Personally, I've not noticed cliquiness being a major issue to a newcomer such as myself, sure you have a lot of same people posting but it never made me feel I shouldn't join in but being the old git that I am, I probably just ignore a lot of stuff
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Old 21.09.2011, 08:12
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Re: Is EF too cliquey?

Where's the "mirfield, stop whoring for rep" option in the poll?
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Old 21.09.2011, 08:22
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Is there a similarity between feeling the Forum is cliquey, and not having the confidence to speak your mind?
This question really struck a nerve for me. It seems to me the line of reasoning is questioning those who have spoken their mind to say, "Yes, sometimes it feels cliquey" by casting doubt on their self-esteem or confidence, rather than hearing their viewpoint.

In terms of sociology or philosophy this is the classic "defining The Other" that you see between majorities and minorities, and is used to invalidate comments (persons or groups of people) that don't sit well with those who have privilege (in this case of being "in" the clique).
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Old 21.09.2011, 08:32
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Re: Is EF too cliquey?

Is EF too cliquey?

Hmmm....I'll have to ask the gang first.
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Old 21.09.2011, 08:40
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Re: Is EF too cliquey?

How can a forum be too partisan?
Afterall the whole point is that you read what you want and comment on what you want to comment on. If you find someone crap, then you ignore them.
If you don`t like some like minded peeps having some banter, then you pass on to another thread.
I think the only ones that complain about the clique are those that want to impress their own view on a forum, in which case it is hypocritical to accuse other of a clique.
BTW I notice a clique every time I use my French mouse
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Old 21.09.2011, 08:43
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Re: Is EF too cliquey?

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Old 21.09.2011, 08:45
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Ooh welcome Bob! Where did you come from?!

Yup EF used to be a lot worse for this but it felt more like a family than the mixture of people it is today. If I'm honest I miss that face to username interaction.

About time to organise a EF xmas do <cough> paging Uncle Max
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Re: Is EF too cliquey?

I had to google "cliquey"

cli·queyAdjective/ˈklēkē/

1. (of a group or place) Tending to form or hold exclusive groups.
2. (of music or art) Appealing only to a small group or minority.


I also have my favourite posters... But I thought that was normal (I'm a fan girl all the way, baby). I share more points of view with certain people than others, so I tend to ignore certain posters. No harm intended, but my morning is happier without reading crap.
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Where's the "mirfield, stop whoring for rep" option in the poll?
"whoring for rep" I so hate it when people do that !!!!!

and back on topic...

was it WC Fields who said he'd never belong to any club that would have him as a member ?
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I also have my favourite posters... But I thought that was normal (I'm a fan girl all the way, baby). I share more points of view with certain people than others, so I tend to ignore certain posters. No harm intended, but my morning is happier without reading crap.
Crap is the favoured Modus Operandi of my favourite posters....that's why I read them

(As an clue, I wasn't attracted to this thread by the title )
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How can a forum be too partisan?
Afterall the whole point is that you read what you want and comment on what you want to comment on. If you find someone crap, then you ignore them.
If you don`t like some like minded peeps having some banter, then you pass on to another thread.
I think the only ones that complain about the clique are those that want to impress their own view on a forum, in which case it is hypocritical to accuse other of a clique.
BTW I notice a clique every time I use my French mouse
See but again, it's defining The Other to invalidate them.

We're not sitting around complaining about it. Someone considerately asked a question, so we are answering based on our honest experiences. Why is it threatening to hear that some people have found it cliquey?

I agree with you about users choosing what they read etc, but I think the original question is about the general feel of the forum, particularly for new people.

It doesn't seem fair to ask a question, hear a viewpoint that is uncomfortable (????) and then say, "well, they probably just aren't confident" or "they just want to impress their own view." Why not just say, "huh, their experience has been different than mine", this being a place full of diverse people?
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Old 21.09.2011, 09:10
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Re: Is EF too cliquey?

Yes and no

No, because we welcome newbies from any place in Switzerland and everywhere really. Come in, join us, be part of us. You are very welcome. Ok you wont get the inside jokes immediately (brown sugar anyone?) but you will get there. Remember, everyone was a newbie once.

Yes, because if you are a person who registered just to ask a question without bothering to search for any similar topics (no need to give examples really), you will annoy the members. Especially if you are being a smartass about it and give ironic replies. Then you will get attacked. Imagine doing that in real life. Wont work...
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