Is EF too cliquey?

[mirfield]

	Quote:	quark
	I still don't understand a good two-thirds of the Mulhouse KFC thread though.

I don't think any of us do.

Just type "(no homo)" every now and then to look as if you know what's happening.

[mimi1981]

	Quote:	Caviarchips
	Crap is the favoured Modus Operandi of my favourite posters....that's why I read them (As an clue, I wasn't attracted to this thread by the title )

no homo?

	Quote:	mirfield
	I don't think any of us do. Just type "(no homo)" every now and then to look as if you know what's happening.

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	Quote:	Editor Bob
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I thought clicky was what happened to your knees when you get old?

	Quote:	Helm
	I had to google "cliquey" cli·queyAdjective/ˈklēkē/ 1. (of a group or place) Tending to form or hold exclusive groups. 2. (of music or art) Appealing only to a small group or minority. I also have my favourite posters... But I thought that was normal (I'm a fan girl all the way, baby). I share more points of view with certain people than others, so I tend to ignore certain posters. No harm intended, but my morning is happier without reading crap.

This was the spelling I understood.

[mirfield]

Thank you all for your replies.

Here's my opinion, then.

I think EF definitely appears cliquey, but there's no exclusivity about it. I don't think I've seen anybody ignored because they're not "known" and people jump in and out with ease. Is that a clique, or just a bunch of posters? I think the latter, but I can see how it can appear to someone who's just walked through the door - you might just see a group of people with their in-jokes and it takes a little courage to join in. (A bit like when I accidentally walked into the Hell's Angels annual bash in a local pub. One of the best nights out I've ever had).

I think the mugging of new members making new member mistakes is nothing to do with cliques (other than maybe some people trying to look good at a beginner's expense, thinking they're impressing someone). It's done by established members and relative newcomers. I don't like this aggressive side of EF and I hope I don't contribute to it. I understand the frustration, but I'd much prefer to leave any admonishment to the mods - that's what they're "paid" for. What tends to happen here is that a whole bunch of people seem to race to stick the boot in. It smells of bullying and I can certainly see why a lot of people don't bother coming back.

[grumpygit]

	Quote:	mirfield
	Thank you all for your replies. Here's my opinion, then. I think EF definitely appears cliquey, but there's no exclusivity about it. I don't think I've seen anybody ignored because they're not "known" and people jump in and out with ease. Is that a clique, or just a bunch of posters? I think the latter, but I can see how it can appear to someone who's just walked through the door - you might just see a group of people with their in-jokes and it takes a little courage to join in. (A bit like when I accidentally walked into the Hell's Angels annual bash in a local pub. One of the best nights out I've ever had). I think the mugging of new members making new member mistakes is anything to do with cliques (other than maybe some people trying to get laughs at a beginner's expense). It's done by established members and relative newcomers. I don't like this aggressive side of EF and I hope I don't contribute to it. I understand the frustration, but I'd much prefer to leave any admonishment to the mods - that's what they're "paid" for. What tends to happen here is that a whole bunch of people seem to race to stick the boot in. It smells of bullying and I can certainly see why a lot of people don't bother coming back.

Is that it? No sarcastic ending laced with a bit of smut? Im off back to Grynchs thread, its much more rubbish than yours .....

[grynch]

	Quote:	grumpygit
	Is that it? No sarcastic ending laced with a bit of smut? Im off back to Grynchs thread, its much more rubbish than yours .....

*wiping away a wet spot*

its the nicest thing he's ever said to me.

[mimi1981]

	Quote:	grumpygit
	Is that it? No sarcastic ending laced with a bit of smut? Im off back to Grynchs thread, its much more rubbish than yours .....

He's trying to broaden his clique and appeal to the newbies

[mimi1981]

	Quote:	grynch
	*wiping away a wet spot* its the nicest thing he's ever said to me.

Ew. Dude.

That stuff should just be kept private.

[grynch]

	Quote:	grynch
	*wiping away a wet spot* its the nicest thing he's ever said to me.

	Quote:	mimi1981
	Ew. Dude. That stuff should just be kept private.

no homo.
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[TitanTurbo10]

	Quote:	mirfield
	What tends to happen here is that a whole bunch of people seem to race to stick the boot in. It smells of bullying and I can certainly see why a lot of people don't bother coming back.

It's mob mentality....the EF equivalent of the London riots! Usually normal and reasonable people just feel it's ok to join in the bullying because others are doing it. Take their benefits away!!

Like I said earlier, it's a self-selecting population commenting here. Not because people who feel it is a clique may not wish to comment, but because those who see it as an insiders club don't hang around.

[BHBT]

You guys are lightweights compared to the cliques we used to have... where entire groups of people were banned for being a clique...

Seriously - I think some newbies may indeed be put off when they view insider jokes but to be honest, the Forum mirrors normal human behaviour, where people are also drawn to those with similar interests/humour etc. This instinctively creates what could be called a clique

[summerrain]

It seems cliquey simply because some of us have met in real life and have formed friendships offline - hence newbies who read the banter form the impression that there is alot of backslapping going on - which there is sometimes - but its simply reinforced by the fact that you've met and liked each other.

Even if we havent met, there are some posters that I simply click (oh pardon the pun!) with, enjoy and get their posts/wit every time - and there are some pompous prats whose posts that I simply ignore, every time.

[mirfield]

	Quote:	summerrain
	there are some pompous prats whose posts that I simply ignore, every time.

You ended up on this thread accidentally then

[summerrain]

	Quote:	mirfield
	You ended up on this thread accidentally then

Uh huh and I just cant resist giving an opinion.

[Ouchboy]

	Quote:	BHBT
	You guys are lightweights compared to the cliques we used to have... where entire groups of people were banned for being a clique...

ah... the "I'm and old forum member" Clique has arrived....

[Textoch]

As a relatively new member (6 mos.), I will say that during the first month or so, I envisioned these grand VIP parties (always in Basel or Zurich) where members had to show proof of their six-blob status (and maybe five-blobs could join in as well, if they bought the drinks ).

After actually using the forum for a while, I realized that this definitely was not the case. For sure, it was clear that some members socialized face-to-face, but it was also clear that one certainly did not need to be in some "special circle" in order to receive rep, one just had to actually contribute to the forum in a thoughtful, useful and (hopefully) valuable way.

One can't just post a 120K or brown sugar question thread, get some negative feedback, and conclude that the forum is cliquey; one has to put a bit more in in order to get something in return. Taking a look at the member list and seeing how many members left without posting enough to receive any rep is evidence of how many members bail out prior to putting in the effort to actually contribute.

[mirfield]

	Quote:	Textoch
	As a relatively new member (6 mos.), I will say that during the first month or so, I envisioned these grand VIP parties (always in Basel or Zurich) where members had to show proof of their six-blob status (and maybe five-blobs could join in as well, if they bought the drinks ). After actually using the forum for a while, I realized that this definitely was not the case. For sure, it was clear that some members socialized face-to-face, but it was also clear that one certainly did not need to be in some "special circle" in order to receive rep, one just had to actually contribute to the forum in a thoughtful, useful and (hopefully) valuable way. One can't just post a 120K or brown sugar question thread, get some negative feedback, and conclude that the forum is cliquey; one has to put a bit more in in order to get something in return. Taking a look at the member list and seeing how many members left without posting enough to receive any rep is evidence of how many members bail out prior to putting in the effort to actually contribute.

Read your post. Was somewhat distracted. Thank you.

[grynch]

	Quote:	Textoch
	As a relatively new member (6 mos.), I will say that during the first month or so, I envisioned these grand VIP parties (always in Basel or Zurich) where members had to show proof of their six-blob status (and maybe five-blobs could join in as well, if they bought the drinks ). After actually using the forum for a while, I realized that this definitely was not the case. For sure, it was clear that some members socialized face-to-face, but it was also clear that one certainly did not need to be in some "special circle" in order to receive rep, one just had to actually contribute to the forum in a thoughtful, useful and (hopefully) valuable way. One can't just post a 120K or brown sugar question thread, get some negative feedback, and conclude that the forum is cliquey; one has to put a bit more in in order to get something in return. Taking a look at the member list and seeing how many members left without posting enough to receive any rep is evidence of how many members bail out prior to putting in the effort to actually contribute.

err... what?...

make mine a vodka tonic please and be snappy about it !

[Ouchboy]

	Quote:	Textoch
	As a relatively new member (6 mos.), I will say that during the first month or so, I envisioned these grand VIP parties (always in Basel or Zurich) where members had to show proof of their six-blob status (and maybe five-blobs could join in as well, if they bought the drinks ). After actually using the forum for a while, I realized that this definitely was not the case. For sure, it was clear that some members socialized face-to-face, but it was also clear that one certainly did not need to be in some "special circle" in order to receive rep, one just had to actually contribute to the forum in a thoughtful, useful and (hopefully) valuable way. One can't just post a 120K or brown sugar question thread, get some negative feedback, and conclude that the forum is cliquey; one has to put a bit more in in order to get something in return. Taking a look at the member list and seeing how many members left without posting enough to receive any rep is evidence of how many members bail out prior to putting in the effort to actually contribute.

pff you are 3 blobs, you don't have access to the secret Events calendar yet....

[dino]

what do you mean cliquey.... all these names are real people ?????