Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Support > Support > Forum support  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #181  
Old 03.10.2011, 18:58
J_T's Avatar
J_T J_T is offline
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: near Bern
Posts: 1,080
Groaned at 20 Times in 15 Posts
Thanked 1,175 Times in 523 Posts
J_T has a reputation beyond reputeJ_T has a reputation beyond reputeJ_T has a reputation beyond reputeJ_T has a reputation beyond reputeJ_T has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

...wonder what possible value can be exploited from a 800x600 pixel pic, other than linking it to some other off the wall site to decorate some other nutter's off the wall post. Excellent way to become rich and famous.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank J_T for this useful post:
  #182  
Old 03.10.2011, 23:11
Sundog's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Basel
Posts: 51
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 33 Times in 17 Posts
Sundog is considered knowledgeableSundog is considered knowledgeableSundog is considered knowledgeable
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

Quote:
View Post
The new terms and conditions state The Local (and partners) now have the rights to everything we post. This was NEVER our agreement with Mark, neither express nor implied.
I'm pretty sure I stumbled upon something that Mark read that actually more or less said that he had rights to everything that is posted. At least in the way that he expected it to stay on the forum. I don't think he had plans to use it other than that.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Sundog for this useful post:
  #183  
Old 03.10.2011, 23:13
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

I'm sure the Swiss Press would happily pay for some of the gems written here about Ch and the Swiss.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #184  
Old 04.10.2011, 09:17
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

+Sky

1) Yes, you can continue to discuss politics and religion, same as ever.

2) No, your email is not shared with third parties. Any commercial emails that are sent will be sent only by The Local on behalf of third party advertisers.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #185  
Old 04.10.2011, 09:42
resident
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

Hello Editor Bob!!!

Could you please also address my question in the original posting? I am getting no response from support@thelocal.se

Specifically this clause:

"This license will come to an end at the time you remove such Contents from the Services and upon your notification to THE LOCAL."

I would like to comply but I don't know how. After some time, the Edit button disappears from postings.

Quote:
View Post
+Sky

1) Yes, you can continue to discuss politics and religion, same as ever.

2) No, your email is not shared with third parties. Any commercial emails that are sent will be sent only by The Local on behalf of third party advertisers.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #186  
Old 04.10.2011, 09:50
bigblue2's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Glarus
Posts: 8,082
Groaned at 484 Times in 403 Posts
Thanked 14,715 Times in 5,780 Posts
bigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

Editor Bob,

Not being funny here, but the local seems to be a small company trying to play with the big boys, what you seem to fail to realise is that unlike huge specialist forum sites that have broad appeal (eg cars, football etc) english speakers in switzerland is a tiny market, you really need to think where you want to go with this, the 'news' stories are a waste of time, changing t&c's has been handled very badly, in fact the legal side of the t&c's in whooly at best and to my untrained eye at least, it looks like you just copied and pasted someone elses with no regard to jurisdictions etc, now you can carry on like this and lose EF's long term member base (the big posters) and make you investment worthless, make no mistake people will just go elsewhere, there are lots of IT bods on here who can easily setup another forum in the spirit of the founder.
Or you can actually LISTEN (as in stop ignoring and hope it all blows over) to the people that make the forum, and your investment, what it is.

Your call
Reply With Quote
The following 13 users would like to thank bigblue2 for this useful post:
  #187  
Old 04.10.2011, 11:14
mirfield's Avatar
Moddy Wellies
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 8,729
Groaned at 53 Times in 47 Posts
Thanked 9,942 Times in 3,654 Posts
mirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond reputemirfield has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

Quote:
View Post
But just to be clear - nobody can go around stealing other people's images and text without their permission - copyright or not. That's why we have a policy on the forum not to just copy and paste bits out of other websites.

Unfortunately in this day and age people think that just because their computer has a copy and paste function that they can just lift and repost content wherever they want - there should always be some ethics considered...
Reply With Quote
  #188  
Old 04.10.2011, 11:15
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

So... all the big posters leave. Will that matter to the Local?

Of course not: for every long term poster who leaves, there will be 100 eager newcomers to take his place. All the information is still there, pages upon pages of useful stuff in amongst the reams of bilge and drivel. Many of the new members will be experienced expats and immigrants with lots of new stuff to share. The English Forum will go on.

The people who live in Switzerland now are not the same people who lived in Switzerland in 1849, but this country is still recognisably, uniquely Switzerland.

I understand the legal concerns, especially of those who have contributed actual substance to the English Forum over the last six years, but let's not kid ourselves that we are, in any way, important to the forum's survival, because we're not.

None of us is indispensible, and the Local knows that.
Reply With Quote
The following 9 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #189  
Old 04.10.2011, 11:19
Uncle Max's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Züri
Posts: 7,553
Groaned at 164 Times in 105 Posts
Thanked 8,424 Times in 3,486 Posts
Uncle Max has a reputation beyond reputeUncle Max has a reputation beyond reputeUncle Max has a reputation beyond reputeUncle Max has a reputation beyond reputeUncle Max has a reputation beyond reputeUncle Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

Quote:
View Post
Editor Bob,

Not being funny here, but the local seems to be a small company trying to play with the big boys, what you seem to fail to realise is that unlike huge specialist forum sites that have broad appeal (eg cars, football etc) english speakers in switzerland is a tiny market, you really need to think where you want to go with this, the 'news' stories are a waste of time, changing t&c's has been handled very badly, in fact the legal side of the t&c's in whooly at best and to my untrained eye at least, it looks like you just copied and pasted someone elses with no regard to jurisdictions etc, now you can carry on like this and lose EF's long term member base (the big posters) and make you investment worthless, make no mistake people will just go elsewhere, there are lots of IT bods on here who can easily setup another forum in the spirit of the founder.
Or you can actually LISTEN (as in stop ignoring and hope it all blows over) to the people that make the forum, and your investment, what it is.

Your call
What element of the Forum do you feel will be effected by the change in the T&Cs? Will some Members perhaps think twice before posting personal information on the internet?

Once this site went commercial we all had the opportunity to assess whether we were happy to continue contributing for the original purpose of helping each other, but under the roof of The Local. Or logging off in disappointment.

A few people left and one long standing member put his money where his mouth was. Good for them [some are sorely missed in their, er, original guises]. Nobody is bigger than the Forum itself, and since several flounced there's been no collapse. The opposite, in fact.

Clunky communication from Stockholm aside, is there a reason more people frequent this site than any of the other English language sites?

There seems to be great focus on the letter of the law at the expense of the spirit / current reality of the law. I for one couldn't give a CtrlAltFlnce for the T&Cs. Little changes apart from some users demanding Mods delete a post or photo they once uploaded and have changed their minds as to the wisdom of having done so, ie, more work for Mods with very little benefit for the Forum as a whole. [Dear all, please be patient with your requests. And everything you publish online is there forever ever].
__________________
Wave ¦ Synthpop ¦ 80's ¦ Alternative ¦ Party ¦ Sat 24.03 Provitreff Zurich
Reply With Quote
The following 6 users would like to thank Uncle Max for this useful post:
  #190  
Old 04.10.2011, 11:20
bigblue2's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Glarus
Posts: 8,082
Groaned at 484 Times in 403 Posts
Thanked 14,715 Times in 5,780 Posts
bigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

Quote:
So... all the big posters leave. Will that matter to the Local?

Of course not: for every long term poster who leaves, there will be 100 eager newcomers to take his place. All the information is still there, pages upon pages of useful stuff in amongst the reams of bilge and drivel. Many of the new members will be experienced expats and immigrants with lots of new stuff to share. The English Forum will go on.

The people who live in Switzerland now are not the same people who lived in Switzerland in 1849, but this country is still recognisably, uniquely Switzerland.

I understand the legal concerns, especially of those who have contributed actual substance to the English Forum over the last six years, but let's not kid ourselves that we are, in any way, important to the forum's survival, because we're not.

None of us is indispensible, and the Local knows that.

it matters to advertisers, as so it matters to the local, its all about site hits. the list of companies that bought popular site only to ruin them and lose all there users and money is almost endless, myspace being a very recent example
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank bigblue2 for this useful post:
  #191  
Old 04.10.2011, 11:24
dino's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Zurich
Posts: 1,631
Groaned at 31 Times in 24 Posts
Thanked 1,279 Times in 628 Posts
dino has a reputation beyond reputedino has a reputation beyond reputedino has a reputation beyond reputedino has a reputation beyond reputedino has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

Quote:
View Post
Hopefully, The Local will one day realise that EF is much more than a financial commodity.
thank you ... I needed a laugh today
Reply With Quote
  #192  
Old 04.10.2011, 11:43
bigblue2's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Glarus
Posts: 8,082
Groaned at 484 Times in 403 Posts
Thanked 14,715 Times in 5,780 Posts
bigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

Quote:
View Post
What element of the Forum do you feel will be effected by the change in the T&Cs? Will some Members perhaps think twice before posting personal information on the internet?

Once this site went commercial we all had the opportunity to assess whether we were happy to continue contributing for the original purpose of helping each other, but under the roof of The Local. Or logging off in disappointment.

A few people left and one long standing member put his money where his mouth was. Good for them [some are sorely missed in their, er, original guises]. Nobody is bigger than the Forum itself, and since several flounced there's been no collapse. The opposite, in fact.

Clunky communication from Stockholm aside, is there a reason more people frequent this site than any of the other English language sites?

There seems to be great focus on the letter of the law at the expense of the spirit / current reality of the law. I for one couldn't give a CtrlAltFlnce for the T&Cs. Little changes apart from some users demanding Mods delete a post or photo they once uploaded and have changed their minds as to the wisdom of having done so, ie, more work for Mods with very little benefit for the Forum as a whole. [Dear all, please be patient with your requests. And everything you publish online is there forever ever].

Personally I have no issues with the t&c's, but I have not posted photo's that are worth anything, or any witty saleable stories, or organised commercial events etc etc in short nothing that I couldn't care less about losing, but others have.
And I really don't think it really about the t&c's, its about how the new owners are treating people in general, swoop in, make unpopular changes, swoop out and ignore everyones concerns (yes editor bob I'm looking at you)

sure change the t&c's, but give fair notice and you can't change them retrospectively, and give people a one hit button that deletes them totally if thats what they want (posts, pictures, the works)

The attitude of the owner, editor bob, and some of the mods has been arrogant in the extreme, and thats what pisses people off.
Reply With Quote
The following 7 users would like to thank bigblue2 for this useful post:
  #193  
Old 04.10.2011, 11:46
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Zurich
Posts: 4,940
Groaned at 184 Times in 120 Posts
Thanked 8,599 Times in 2,882 Posts
Kittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

UM must be really ragged at the edges, I don't remember him making spelling mistakes before.

But I am amused that we have the same "either take it as it is or leave" thing going on that many people criticise about Switzerland.
Reply With Quote
  #194  
Old 04.10.2011, 11:46
vwild1
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

Quote:
So... all the big posters divas leave. Will that matter to the Local?
Fixed that for you..
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #195  
Old 04.10.2011, 12:10
Phil_MCR's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Basel
Posts: 14,954
Groaned at 295 Times in 199 Posts
Thanked 19,026 Times in 8,002 Posts
Phil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

while we are on the subject, i would like to point out the important changes in the T&Cs relating to my posts and threads. please see sig for more details.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Phil_MCR for this useful post:
This user groans at Phil_MCR for this post:
  #196  
Old 04.10.2011, 14:00
resident
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

Quote:
View Post
...to my untrained eye at least, it looks like you just copied and pasted someone elses ...
Ah. That is quite likely, now that you mention it.

Would be supremely ironic if true!
Reply With Quote
  #197  
Old 04.10.2011, 21:10
ARandomUsername
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

Quote:
View Post
And don't say they've "been ignored". We're on day two of a weekend.
So what am I supposed to think after two working days and still no email? Are they ignorant, stupid, or something else?
Reply With Quote
  #198  
Old 04.10.2011, 21:14
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

Quote:
View Post
So what am I supposed to think after two working days and still no email? Are they ignorant, stupid, or something else?
Quite frankly, my dear, they don't give a damn.

Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #199  
Old 04.10.2011, 21:18
ARandomUsername
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

Oh, I'd gathered that already. But I wasn't allowed to say emails were being ignored before. I just wanted to make it clear to others what kind of people they're dealing with.
Reply With Quote
  #200  
Old 04.10.2011, 21:19
ximix's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: UK (formerly Zurich)
Posts: 2,098
Groaned at 22 Times in 21 Posts
Thanked 2,315 Times in 1,179 Posts
ximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond reputeximix has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Change of TaC: How to delete my posts?

Quote:
View Post
while we are on the subject, i would like to point out the important changes in the T&Cs relating to my posts and threads. please see sig for more details.
__________________
By replying to this post, you hereby grant Phil_MCR a royalty-free license to use, in any way, anything posted by you on the internet. If you do not accept, please delete all replies to my posts.
Hey, you missed out the part about indemnifying you for ever more in your signature!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank ximix for this useful post:
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How can I delete my account? paulita Forum support 111 26.01.2012 13:41
delete posts johntagg Forum support 18 24.09.2011 19:24
How to get rid of my unwanted and big stuff, e.g., my mattress behrooz Daily life 14 25.07.2010 10:04


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 23:18.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0