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Textoch 13.10.2011 09:28

Thread split following economisto's removal
 
This announcement generated a large amount of discussion which has now been given its own thread, to keep the Announcements thread on topic.
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I guess this may have something to do with the question belying this thread posted earlier today.

http://www.englishforum.ch/1374308-post1.html

Sad, as the A-listers are the members who have the ability and knowledge to contribute a significant percentage of the useful information on this forum. :(

Upthehatters2008 13.10.2011 09:32

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
I consider Economisto my friend , and believe I am privvy to information that EB does not have. In this respect, the issues raised by EB above appear to me to be nothing more than a cynical bitter attack on Economisto. Unjustified and wholly unprofessional. It is a shameful attempt at character assassination, legally dubious and a betrayal.

Nickers 13.10.2011 09:32

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Textoch (Post 1374452)
I guess this may have something to do with the question belying this thread posted earlier today.

http://www.englishforum.ch/1374308-post1.html

Sad, as the A-listers are the members who have the ability and knowledge to contribute a significant percentage of the useful information on this forum. :(

I think you'll find they'll post on both, it's usually the case.

Ouchboy 13.10.2011 09:37

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickers (Post 1374461)
I think you'll find they'll post on both, it's usually the case.

weren't you "Nicky" before???? :confused:

mirfield 13.10.2011 09:39

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Editor Bob (Post 1374419)
Clearly this behaviour is not compatable with being a moderator on this forum. For one it has fragmented what was until recently a stable cohesive moderation team on EF. It is also a very severe breach of the trust he was given.

OK, fair enough. I don't agree that members were poached, but that's a minor thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Editor Bob (Post 1374419)
[paragraph removed]

Sorry, I think this is out of order. OK, you feel betrayed, and that's understandable. But to lower yourself to insults is a little unprofessional.

Caviarchips 13.10.2011 09:42

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Editor Bob (Post 1374419)
And most importantly, a breach of privacy in that your IP addresses, email address, and other private data can be exported, cross-matched, used, and possibly misused elsewhere. Hence the reason for his removal.

Editor Bob - I'll let others reply with their own views on the subtext and tone of what you sent.

Can you please clarify the comment I highlighted - are you suggesting that this has been done, or merely that you fear that it COULD have been done?

I'd appreciate an urgent response please

Nil 13.10.2011 09:45

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Upthehatters2008 (Post 1374460)
I consider Economisto my friend , and believe I am privvy to information that EB does not have. In this respect, the issues raised by EB above appear to me to be nothing more than a cynical bitter attack on Economisto. Unjustified and wholly unprofessional. It is a shameful attempt at character assassination, legally dubious and a betrayal.

I totally agree. This post is just an addition on the bad idea that I already have about you Editor Bob.

This is one thing I never saw on this forum from any mods. They all have too much class and dignity to go down that road about a member of this forum. Not even with the worst of the trolls we had in here.

Disgusting.

lost_inbroad 13.10.2011 09:45

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Editor Bob (Post 1374419)
And most importantly, a breach of privacy in that your IP addresses, email address, and other private data can be exported, cross-matched, used, and possibly misused elsewhere.

...but isn't this what the new T&C are all about?:confused:

Meisie 13.10.2011 09:46

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
Thank you for letting us know Editor Bob. Economisto was a pretty awesome mod and great contributor to the forum. I hope he does continue posting here.

Just on a side note Editor Bob, obviously the wounds are still raw but it's never a good idea to make personal attacks in a professional setting.

Ouchboy 13.10.2011 09:47

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
Is no secret that i liked eco as a mod. and that I much rather see other mods leave before him. As bad a drama this is, the mention of Economisto's line of work in the post is completely uneccesary.

In that way I please ask you to correct, as it is irrelevant to the conversation. Let's keep this as "Forum Reality" if you will.

P.S: I'm a B-lister on the other forum.

13.10.2011 09:49

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
I am a moderator on the other forum (I know 'lol' right) and think the last paragraph in Uncle Bob's post is completely unnecessary.

I'd like to know from Editor Bob how the other forum can and has been used to promote Economisto's financial services firm.

13.10.2011 09:50

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Caviarchips (Post 1374473)
Editor Bob - I'll let others reply with their own views on the subtext and tone of what you sent.

Can you please clarify the comment I highlighted - are you suggesting that this has been done, or merely that you fear that it COULD have been done?

I'd appreciate an urgent response please

Like I said I'm a moderator at the other forum and I can say with 100% certainty that this has NOT been done.

Mud 13.10.2011 09:51

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
Sh!t gettin crazy now. :msnshock:

13.10.2011 09:52

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mirfield (Post 1374469)
OK, fair enough. I don't agree that members were poached, but that's a minor thing.



Sorry, I think this is out of order. OK, you feel betrayed, and that's understandable. But to lower yourself to insults is a little unprofessional.

I've not been poached. To whom may I complain?

And fwiw, I am a member of the forum that isn't the cheese thing.

And fwiw again, none of this would likely have snowballed without the ham-fisted T&C issue. Whilst you did have legal input, you might have first announced it and secondly, when announced, put it into clear English rather than legalise bullshit that nothing significant would change and the main facts are you must protect THE LOCAL brand (love the caps) and that posts remain copyright to people but might be used by THE LOCAL (stop shouting) with credit given to the copyright holder.

HTH :)

Nil 13.10.2011 09:52

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
The good news is that for the very first time since this T&C drama, I do now think to press the delete account button. Because if this is the way things are now handle in here, it is not the forum I signed up for.

And it makes me want to follow Eco even more! So I'll guess EB shot is own foot.

13.10.2011 09:53

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
http://www.englishforum.ch/social-ev...ml#post1373785

Economisto is no longer a member at EF.

13.10.2011 09:54

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nil (Post 1374499)
The good news is that for the very first time since this T&C drama, I do now think to press the delete account button. Because if this is the way things are now handle in here, it is not the forum I signed up for.

And it makes me want to follow Eco even more! So I'll guess EB shot is own foot.

Dear Bob:



Love, Joan :)

Textoch 13.10.2011 09:54

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickers (Post 1374461)
I think you'll find they'll post on both, it's usually the case.

I truly hope so, but after viewing the responses to Editor Bob's post I am beginning to wonder if this move may turn out to be the last straw for some, if not many. :msnshock:

Mud 13.10.2011 09:55

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoanP (Post 1374498)

And fwiw again, none of this would likely have snowballed without the ham-fisted T&C issue. Whilst you did have legal input, you might have first announced it and secondly, when announced, put it into clear English rather than legalise bullshit that nothing significant would change and the main facts are you must protect THE LOCAL brand (love the caps) and that posts remain copyright to people but might be used by THE LOCAL (stop shouting) with credit given to the copyright holder.

HTH :)

\

Honeybaby, there would have been just as much righteous outrage and thread after thread endlessly laying blame and pouting if they did it that way. Well, pretty close anyway.

HthatH :msnnerd:

ecb 13.10.2011 09:55

Re: Forum promotions / Expansion of the moderation team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoanP (Post 1374498)

And fwiw, I am a member of the forum that isn't the cheese thing.

Oh, now I'm confused. Which one? Enlightenment. Anybody?


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