Thread split following economisto's removal

[Textoch]

This announcement generated a large amount of discussion which has now been given its own thread, to keep the Announcements thread on topic.
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I guess this may have something to do with the question belying this thread posted earlier today.

Regulars not posting...

Sad, as the A-listers are the members who have the ability and knowledge to contribute a significant percentage of the useful information on this forum.

[Upthehatters2008]

I consider Economisto my friend , and believe I am privvy to information that EB does not have. In this respect, the issues raised by EB above appear to me to be nothing more than a cynical bitter attack on Economisto. Unjustified and wholly unprofessional. It is a shameful attempt at character assassination, legally dubious and a betrayal.

[Carlos R]

	Quote:	Upthehatters2008
	I consider Economisto my friend , and believe I am privvy to information that EB does not have. In this respect, the issues raised by EB above appear to me to be nothing more than a cynical bitter attack on Economisto. Unjustified and wholly unprofessional. It is a shameful attempt at character assassination, legally dubious and a betrayal.

Quite frankly, from what I know of Economisto - and although I've not met him, we have exchanged emails - he'll have already shrugged it off. He's got a tough skin.

[Upthehatters2008]

	Quote:	Carlos R
	Quite frankly, from what I know of Economisto - and although I've not met him, we have exchanged emails - he'll have already shrugged it off. He's got a tough skin.

[Nickers]

	Quote:	Textoch
	I guess this may have something to do with the question belying this thread posted earlier today. Regulars not posting... Sad, as the A-listers are the members who have the ability and knowledge to contribute a significant percentage of the useful information on this forum.

I think you'll find they'll post on both, it's usually the case.

[Ouchboy]

	Quote:	Nickers
	I think you'll find they'll post on both, it's usually the case.

weren't you "Nicky" before????

[Nil]

	Quote:	Upthehatters2008
	I consider Economisto my friend , and believe I am privvy to information that EB does not have. In this respect, the issues raised by EB above appear to me to be nothing more than a cynical bitter attack on Economisto. Unjustified and wholly unprofessional. It is a shameful attempt at character assassination, legally dubious and a betrayal.

I totally agree. This post is just an addition on the bad idea that I already have about you Editor Bob.

This is one thing I never saw on this forum from any mods. They all have too much class and dignity to go down that road about a member of this forum. Not even with the worst of the trolls we had in here.

Disgusting.

I am a moderator on the other forum (I know 'lol' right) and think the last paragraph in Uncle Bob's post is completely unnecessary.

I'd like to know from Editor Bob how the other forum can and has been used to promote Economisto's financial services firm.

[Mud]

Sh!t gettin crazy now.

[Textoch]

	Quote:	Nickers
	I think you'll find they'll post on both, it's usually the case.

I truly hope so, but after viewing the responses to Editor Bob's post I am beginning to wonder if this move may turn out to be the last straw for some, if not many.

	Quote:	Textoch
	I truly hope so, but after viewing the responses to Editor Bob's post I am beginning to wonder if this move may turn out to be the last straw for some, if not many.

The implications in his post is nothing short of libelous IMO

[mirfield]

	Quote:	Editor Bob
	Clearly this behaviour is not compatable with being a moderator on this forum. For one it has fragmented what was until recently a stable cohesive moderation team on EF. It is also a very severe breach of the trust he was given.

OK, fair enough. I don't agree that members were poached, but that's a minor thing.

	Quote:	Editor Bob
	[paragraph removed]

Sorry, I think this is out of order. OK, you feel betrayed, and that's understandable. But to lower yourself to insults is a little unprofessional.

[Meisie]

Thank you for letting us know Editor Bob. Economisto was a pretty awesome mod and great contributor to the forum. I hope he does continue posting here.

Just on a side note Editor Bob, obviously the wounds are still raw but it's never a good idea to make personal attacks in a professional setting.

	Quote:	mirfield
	OK, fair enough. I don't agree that members were poached, but that's a minor thing. Sorry, I think this is out of order. OK, you feel betrayed, and that's understandable. But to lower yourself to insults is a little unprofessional.

I've not been poached. To whom may I complain?

And fwiw, I am a member of the forum that isn't the cheese thing.

And fwiw again, none of this would likely have snowballed without the ham-fisted T&C issue. Whilst you did have legal input, you might have first announced it and secondly, when announced, put it into clear English rather than legalise bullshit that nothing significant would change and the main facts are you must protect THE LOCAL brand (love the caps) and that posts remain copyright to people but might be used by THE LOCAL (stop shouting) with credit given to the copyright holder.

HTH

[Mud]

	Quote:	JoanP
	And fwiw again, none of this would likely have snowballed without the ham-fisted T&C issue. Whilst you did have legal input, you might have first announced it and secondly, when announced, put it into clear English rather than legalise bullshit that nothing significant would change and the main facts are you must protect THE LOCAL brand (love the caps) and that posts remain copyright to people but might be used by THE LOCAL (stop shouting) with credit given to the copyright holder. HTH

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Honeybaby, there would have been just as much righteous outrage and thread after thread endlessly laying blame and pouting if they did it that way. Well, pretty close anyway.

HthatH

[adrianlondon]

1. Pointing out that publishing a rival forum on here isn't a good idea, is good. However, it hasn't really been done that I've noticed.

2. Pointing out that the rival forum appears to be a copy of this one ... I agree. I had a look at it for a few seconds and it's obviously a rip off of here and that fact annoyed me. However, in reality, it's the posts which make up the content not the layout. But it will and does fragment the expat community here, and I for one don't like that.

3. [paragraph removed] ... that is all so extremely out of order that it makes me want to ignore my reservations in (2) and swap over. It was very unprofessional behaviour, really. It's the childish post one would expect from someone like, oh ... me! But I'm no forum owner.

[ecb]

	Quote:	JoanP
	And fwiw, I am a member of the forum that isn't the cheese thing.

Oh, now I'm confused. Which one? Enlightenment. Anybody?

[Caviarchips]

	Quote:	Editor Bob
	And most importantly, a breach of privacy in that your IP addresses, email address, and other private data can be exported, cross-matched, used, and possibly misused elsewhere. Hence the reason for his removal.

Editor Bob - I'll let others reply with their own views on the subtext and tone of what you sent.

Can you please clarify the comment I highlighted - are you suggesting that this has been done, or merely that you fear that it COULD have been done?

I'd appreciate an urgent response please

[Ouchboy]

Is no secret that i liked eco as a mod. and that I much rather see other mods leave before him. As bad a drama this is, the mention of Economisto's line of work in the post is completely uneccesary.

In that way I please ask you to correct, as it is irrelevant to the conversation. Let's keep this as "Forum Reality" if you will.

P.S: I'm a B-lister on the other forum.

[Nil]

The good news is that for the very first time since this T&C drama, I do now think to press the delete account button. Because if this is the way things are now handle in here, it is not the forum I signed up for.

And it makes me want to follow Eco even more! So I'll guess EB shot is own foot.