Unhappy with an EF member

[cannut]

	Quote:	porsch1909
	Sorry asked my wife...she said no I'm such a beta male

Good one

	Quote:	skyhigh
	Why warn every EF member about this????? Just vent your frustrations/disappointment (meaning not at the appointment) at the person and MOVE ON!!! Tar and feathers or what...he only wanted a cheap phone..and said no thanks. Moral of the story....Have something for sale..view at my place, first come first served.CASH. sold as seen...END Rant Over

So that future members know to be careful?

[NSchulzi]

	Quote:	porsch1909
	So that future members know to be careful?

Which is precisely what I thought this thread was meant to be about

[skyhigh]

	Quote:	porsch1909
	So that future members know to be careful?

He's not a killer he just bailed....


Be careful out there dissapointment is around....may strike you soon...

[biff]

	Quote:	porsch1909
	So that future members know to be careful?

To be careful of what? What harm has been done? It wouldn't be the first, and it won't be the last time that a would-be buyer has changed his/her mind about a purchase. In fact, I have twice bought items via EF, after a seller has had a "no show" from elsewhere. It just goes with the territory.

Personally I think that the OP should have just replied to the non-buyer and expressed her annoyance privately rather than doing so in public, if it was worth mentioning at all. We all have little annoyances with other people at times. That's life.

PS: Thanks Vlad and Adrian, for not making a public fuss the time I failed to meet at the appointed place, at the appointed time, for a bike ride.

[MacGregor's Daughter]

uh-oh now I just remember I wanted to pick up a free mattress in zurich some time ago and then I completely forgot and was so embarrassed that I never got back to the person.. I'm glad he's not calling me out publicly...

[jrspet]

I was once a potential buyer on EF, but at the 11th hour was told by the seller via SMS that the item was no longer available. Left it at that, despite having bought tickets to Basel to pick it up. Owner said that the daughter broke it - well, I just bit my tongue and moved on. Shit happens, it is just that it hardly gets mentioned or ought to be mention, I reckon.

And ditto to the poster who mentioned first come, first served, cash. Since my experience, it has worked flawlessly.

	Quote:	biff
	To be careful of what? What harm has been done? It wouldn't be the first, and it won't be the last time that a would-be buyer has changed his/her mind about a purchase. In fact, I have twice bought items via EF, after a seller has had a "no show" from elsewhere. It just goes with the territory. Personally I think that the OP should have just replied to the non-buyer and expressed her annoyance privately rather than doing so in public, if it was worth mentioning at all. We all have little annoyances with other people at times. That's life. PS: Thanks Vlad and Adrian, for not making a public fuss the time I failed to meet at the appointed place, at the appointed time, for a bike ride.

To be careful not to sell to this member and certainly not buy from him. I know that I would never accept an offer from this member due to this thread.

[Jam2011]

	Quote:	MacGregor's Daughter
	uh-oh now I just remember I wanted to pick up a free mattress in zurich some time ago and then I completely forgot and was so embarrassed that I never got back to the person.. I'm glad he's not calling me out publicly...

Have you done a good search.

[Papa Goose]

	Quote:	jrspet
	Left it at that, despite having bought tickets to Basel to pick it up. Owner said that the daughter broke it - well, I just bit my tongue and moved on. Shit happens

No item, train ticket you didn't need, and a sore tongue... and I only though good things came in 3's

I don't really see a problem, if a deal was a agreed and the buyer pulls out at short notice, the seller has the right to be dis-chuffed. There are a lot of time waster on here in the for sale threads and on the event threads also, when people put their names down for restricted numbers events and then no show. So I don't see a problem with naming and shaming offenders really.

It's simple, if you agree to buy something it then do it, if you say your attending an event then go, unless something unavoidable happens of course. If we are all adults, displaying a little common sense and courtesy isn't so hard... unless your wife say's you can't

[biff]

	Quote:	Papa Goose
	It's simple really, if you agree to buy something it the do it, if you say your attending an event do it, unless something unavoidable happens of course. If we are all adults, displaying a little common sense and courtesy isn't so hard... unless your wife say's you can't

That was the tarred and feathered one's reason/excuse in the first place.

[quark]

People keep saying it was "just a no-show" - but when this happened to me the circumstances involved me losing a day of work and a lot of goodwill from my boss and colleagues because their working days were affected through rescheduling etc.

The prevailing attitude that we just have to accept this as "part and parcel" of the process leads to a lot of timewasting and makes people a lot less likely to buy/sell on here.

I think a mild reminder that messing forum members around like this has consequences in real peoples' lives is not untoward. With a bit more consideration and forethought, most of these situations needn't happen at all.

[biff]

	Quote:	porsch1909
	To be careful not to sell to this member and certainly not buy from him. I know that I would never accept an offer from this member due to this thread.

NO, wait! Now I am confused. For a minute, I thought you meant me. YOu didn't. Did you? No! Yes! No! Ahh, it's getting late. I wonder if anyone in the neighbourhood feels like having a cup of tea with me. Did you mean me?

[NSchulzi]

	Quote:	biff
	NO, wait! Now I am confused. For a minute, I thought you meant me. YOu didn't. Did you? No! Yes! No! Ahh, it's getting late. I wonder if anyone in the neighbourhood feels like having a cup of tea with me. Did you mean me?

uh oh, persecution (or guilt) complex

[MacGregor's Daughter]

Now I think the kind of behavior of just not showing up () or canceling an appointment 10 minutes before it's due is connected to the overall loss of respect for other people, being ignorant to the efforts they might have undertaken on our behalf (as the op did), just plain selfishness and ignorance.

[olygirl]

This thread bothers me. To start a thread about being disgruntled is fine but to actually name names brings down the moral standing of EF and what it represents.

We haven't heard the other guy's story. Maybe he's a dealer who's client dropped out so he did too but in the end it isn't our business.

Ricardo would be the appropriate place to name and shame by using their reputation system. Not here.

I'm disappointed in the mods for letting this thread continue yet deleting the bible study thread in its entirety.

Despite all the drama, there's still a lot of good on this forum. It's just not on this thread.

[jrspet]

	Quote:
	I'm disappointed in the mods for letting this thread continue yet deleting the bible study thread in its entirety.

The OP of that thread was told that to post, once eligible, in the Market Place, irrespective of what he wished to teach. I am sorry if that disappointed you.

[olygirl]

	Quote:	jrspet
	The OP of that thread was told that to post, once eligible, in the Market Place, irrespective of what he wished to teach. I am sorry if that disappointed you.

No, that doesn't disappoint me. That's fair and according to the rules.

PS: Is the reason for a thread deletion available for everyone to see? I haven't seen that before.

[quark]

	Quote:	olygirl
	This thread bothers me. To start a thread about being disgruntled is fine but to actually name names brings down the moral standing of EF and what it represents.

As much as this website has a "moral standing", I would say that posters who inconvenience other users who have tried to help them damages it far more.

A post in cyberspace has much less consequence for the timewaster than the real world loss of time and money some of the more conscientious users suffer

	Quote:	olygirl
	We haven't heard the other guy's story. Maybe he's a dealer who's client dropped out so he did too but in the end it isn't our business.

No we haven't, but he has the opportunity and we may yet hear the other side. However, I'm not sure how having a unreliable client would justify being able to seriously inconvenience another member, all with no risk of any consequence to themselves.

[biff]

	Quote:	Nicolaschulz
	uh oh, persecution (or guilt) complex

Oh, probably both.