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08.11.2011, 16:28
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | |
LOL not a snowballs chance in hell, even brockenhaus won't take crt's now
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08.11.2011, 16:33
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | not really a fair comparison, as we all know switzerland is an 'odd' market, someone fresh off the boat would see the shop / dealer prices, have a small heart attack, then think that 15k chf for a clapped out 20 yr old astra with no mfk was actually a pretty sweet swiss deal
the for sale section is free, if you want to sell something with no comeback or questions then PAY for an ad on ricardo etc, else bugger off | | | | | if you want to have a policy that says you can comment about sales, feel free. just don't claim it's about 'building community'. when it gets ugly, and it does, let me know how much community you've built. FWIW, the market in the other forum is completely free as well and is global in scope. i'd say the 'community' there is much stronger than the one here, and much larger. i think it's a perfectly apt comparison since, to use your comparison, how can someone in Austria know if the price of something someone from Brazil is selling is a 'fair' price? You have to agree, there are plenty of tools available to anyone with an internet connection to do the proper research about what is a fair market value of many things in Switzerland. Unless you feel the need to hand hold everyone that comes off the boat...
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08.11.2011, 16:35
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | Gah, pedants....
Still, I think it's fair to expect a reasonable standard of dress from a seller, underwear or bathrobe minimum. | | | | | I think it's fair for buyers to do a reasonable amount of due diligence.
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08.11.2011, 16:35
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | If you're not interested in buying, no matter the price, just ignore it.
If you are interested, but not at that price, make a counteroffer...via PM.
If you feel you just need to comment because..well..you can...do it via PM and don't muck up someone else's sale. They'll figure out pretty quickly it's not selling and probably guess why. | | | | |
I agree... that's how it should be, unless someone is taking buyers for a ride - intentionally or otherwise.
If you offer a used phone for chf 100, and I know it only cost 100 new, then the fact that an ignorant buyer is willing to pay 100 for it does not make it right.
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08.11.2011, 16:39
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | I think it's fair for buyers to do a reasonable amount of due diligence. | | | | | Doesn't that involve asking questions? Maybe on a comment thread, so you could discuss it with others.
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08.11.2011, 16:40
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | if you want to have a policy that says you can comment about sales, feel free. just don't claim it's about 'building community'. when it gets ugly, and it does, let me know how much community you've built. FWIW, the market in the other forum is completely free as well and is global in scope. i'd say the 'community' there is much stronger than the one here, and much larger. i think it's a perfectly apt comparison since, to use your comparison, how can someone in Austria know if the price of something someone from Brazil is selling is a 'fair' price? You have to agree, there are plenty of tools available to anyone with an internet connection to do the proper research about what is a fair market value of many things in Switzerland. Unless you feel the need to hand hold everyone that comes off the boat... | | | | |
again I disagree, yes there are plenty of tools if you know where to look and understand one of the languages, else your stuffed. We have all seen ad's on here for things like ikea furniture where the asking price is more then the new shop price, if your fine with seeing a newbie get fleeced then good for you, Luckily there are people on here who think otherwise
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08.11.2011, 16:43
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| | Re: Forum market place prices
Everything put out into the public domain - for free - is not the property of the OP, and is fair game for everyone who wishes to comment in any shape or form.
Everything else I agree with has been written already .... sorry phd, not you.
Are we in danger of too much sense and sensibility?
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08.11.2011, 17:33
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | Let us know when the cannabis wears off. | | | | | Mirfield on cannabis, now that would be a sight! One I'm willing to pay for just for the sh*ts and giggles
Before: self declared senile part-sloth with a penchant for the munchies
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08.11.2011, 17:38
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | We have all seen ad's on here for things like ikea furniture where the asking price is more then the new shop price | | | | | looking up the price of ikea furniture is something well within anyone's capability, regardless of their language skill. i should know, i shopped for plenty of ikea furniture being hardly functional in italian. their catalog is online, yes? | Quote: | |  | | | if your fine with seeing a newbie get fleeced then good for you | | | | | You sound like Glenn Beck: "People say he's an axe murderer. Now I'm not saying he's an axe murderer, but that's what people say." | 
08.11.2011, 17:54
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | Except when it get silly, I see no reason why people can't comment on prices on the for sale threads.
EF isn't ebay.
It's common for EF to be compared to a real life community.
So. Imagine you're sat chatting with your mates/colleagues in the pub/coffee shop, and someone pops in and offers their 3 year old PC for three times what it's worth.
You're tempted. You need a computer and you've heard of Packard Bell (they sponsored Leeds United so they must be rugged).
Would you expect your mates to just sit there quietly while you paid over the odds for a piece of Second Division trash? | | | | | Didn't Leeds get sold for £1? Bit of a bargain, no?
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09.11.2011, 11:38
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More annoying than high prices are low ballers. | This user would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
10.11.2011, 13:40
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It's really hard for me to resist commenting ridiculous ads, but I understand that trolling can be quite annoying and sometimes even offensive.
So most of the time i just try to ignore them.
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10.11.2011, 14:05
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | More annoying than high prices are low ballers.  | | | | | I agree with you. Sometimes I get annoyed with some of the offers. But they sure do have some balls those low ballers! | This user would like to thank miniMia for this useful post: | | 
10.11.2011, 14:07
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | I agree with you. Sometimes I get annoyed with some of the offers. But they sure do have some balls those low ballers!  | | | | | Thanks for clarifying "low ballers" MiniMia ... was wondering what it meant!
As it appears that so many things don't sell, I suppose people are taking a chance that you would rather sell it for something than throw it out. And why not?
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10.11.2011, 14:35
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | Thanks for clarifying "low ballers" MiniMia ... was wondering what it meant!
As it appears that so many things don't sell, I suppose people are taking a chance that you would rather sell it for something than throw it out. And why not? | | | | | At least I think if someone is going to offer 25% it should be keep it private. Otherwise it just seems rude. And frankly if it doesn't sell the seller is going to get to the point where they drop the price anyway or take it off the market.
I think it's especially rude if the price is already a good price.
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10.11.2011, 14:47
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | At least I think if someone is going to offer 25% it should be keep it private. Otherwise it just seems rude. And frankly if it doesn't sell the seller is going to get to the point where they drop the price anyway or take it off the market. | | | | | Absolutely agree. Indeed, I only assumed that people did offer a much lower sum by PM. Have done it once or twice myself when I considered something was being offered at a very high price and saw that the item had still not sold after a while. But only did it by PM!
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