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08.11.2011, 14:02
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Waaay overpriced second hand stuff anyone? Or is it just my impression? | 
08.11.2011, 14:12
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Sometimes. Sometimes not. There was just a sweet stereo listed for 50 bucks- deal; saw a really nice vacuum yesterday for 20 bucks- deal. Fella had a nice Mac listed for a very nice price and got henpecked to death over a million details and pulled it- can't blame him. If something is overpriced don't buy it, very simple.
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08.11.2011, 14:14
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| | Re: Forum market place prices
Not my impression either. Sometimes things are overpriced, but then somebody tells 'em.
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08.11.2011, 14:19
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | Not my impression either. Sometimes things are overpriced, but then somebody tells 'em. | | | | | Yes- it's quite a sport and quite funny sometimes!
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08.11.2011, 14:38
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | Yes- it's quite a sport and quite funny sometimes! | | | | | Yeah, innit!
Especially when the seller goes on the defensive and flatly refuses to admit their gear is over-priced, despite being presented with links and factual information proving it time and time again!
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08.11.2011, 14:49
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | Yeah, innit! 
Especially when the seller goes on the defensive and flatly refuses to admit their gear is over-priced, despite being presented with links and factual information proving it time and time again! | | | | | plus of course, what you pay for and when you pay for is no indication of how much that item is now worth and what people are willing to pay for it NOW!
Simple Economics.. supply and demand.
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08.11.2011, 14:50
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | Yeah, innit! 
Especially when the seller goes on the defensive and flatly refuses to admit their gear is over-priced, despite being presented with links and factual information proving it time and time again! | | | | |
Oooh, where is that famous webcam thread again....
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08.11.2011, 14:57
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Ahhhh, The real beauty of the EF market place !!!
People who are overpriced learn very quickly.
Feel free to let the OP know exactly what the price should be...... especially on electrical goods.
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08.11.2011, 15:05
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | Waaay overpriced second hand stuff anyone? Or is it just my impression?  | | | | | dont buy it, if nobody else buy it the price will go down dramatically, if someone else buys it, good for the seller!
very simple. I have seen things going from overpriced to almost free
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08.11.2011, 15:06
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If you're not interested in buying, no matter the price, just ignore it.
If you are interested, but not at that price, make a counteroffer...via PM.
If you feel you just need to comment because..well..you can...do it via PM and don't muck up someone else's sale. They'll figure out pretty quickly it's not selling and probably guess why.
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08.11.2011, 15:19
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Except when it get silly, I see no reason why people can't comment on prices on the for sale threads.
EF isn't ebay.
It's common for EF to be compared to a real life community.
So. Imagine you're sat chatting with your mates/colleagues in the pub/coffee shop, and someone pops in and offers their 3 year old PC for three times what it's worth.
You're tempted. You need a computer and you've heard of Packard Bell (they sponsored Leeds United so they must be rugged).
Would you expect your mates to just sit there quietly while you paid over the odds for a piece of Second Division trash?
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08.11.2011, 15:33
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | It's common for EF to be compared to a real life community. | | | | | Let us know when the cannabis wears off. How about another example? Lets say someone flogs something and lists a price not unreasonable but waaaay more than you and your mates, having spent all your dosh on beer, are willing to spend. What do you do then? How much 'community spirit' do you think you've built? Do you think a better way to 'build community' might have been to send a private PM to the seller instead of engaging in a public dogpile? Wait...I guess I know what you and your mates might do.....
I belong to another forum that is a) global in scope, b) has a much larger membership, c) has a stronger sense of 'community' because of a shared interest, and d) a very active member's market, much larger than EF. There, the rule is 'don't comment on someone else's sale'. I think it's a good rule and it keeps people from verbally abusing each other and destroying the very community you've been trying to build. The 'no comment' rule was instituted for that reason because things were getting out of hand.
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08.11.2011, 15:56
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | I belong to another forum that is a) global in scope, b) has a much larger membership, c) has a stronger sense of 'community' because of a shared interest, and d) a very active member's market, much larger than EF. There, the rule is 'don't comment on someone else's sale'. I think it's a good rule and it keeps people from verbally abusing each other and destroying the very community you've been trying to build. The 'no comment' rule was instituted for that reason because things were getting out of hand. | | | | | That's not a good rule, it's basically just making sure that buyers are deliberately uniformed for the benefit of the feelings of sellers. If comments are libelous, that's another matter. If a seller is determined to sell their kit overpriced, they'll probbably find a buyer on a site such as the one you suggest.
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08.11.2011, 16:08
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | That's not a good rule, it's basically just making sure that buyers are deliberately uniformed for the benefit of the feelings of sellers. If comments are libelous, that's another matter. If a seller is determined to sell their kit overpriced, they'll probbably find a buyer on a site such as the one you suggest. | | | | | Comments can get rather ugly without getting to be legally 'libelous'. I presume that if this is one big happy community, then the mods must agree with this dogpile policy. If they didn't they could simply delete ads if they felt your items were 'overpriced'. What do you do about a situation where you have someone who simply doesn't like you all that much and feels compelled to negatively comment several times on your item and the price (not commenting on you personally because they are clever enough to know that is libelous). Would you feel that is acceptable behavior in a 'community' or do you think some censure is in order? If that member is banned for a time, what is the difference between banning the member and deleting their comments or simply not allowing them?
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08.11.2011, 16:11
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | If that member is banned for a time, what is the difference between banning the member and deleting their comments or simply not allowing them? | | | | | It leaves the other comments behind.
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08.11.2011, 16:13
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | Waaay overpriced second hand stuff anyone? Or is it just my impression?  | | | | | What are you selling?
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08.11.2011, 16:22
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How about this little gem today?
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08.11.2011, 16:23
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | That's not a good rule, it's basically just making sure that buyers are deliberately uniformed for the benefit of the feelings of sellers. If comments are libelous, that's another matter. If a seller is determined to sell their kit overpriced, they'll probbably find a buyer on a site such as the one you suggest. | | | | | "buyers are deliberately uniformed" ?? 
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08.11.2011, 16:25
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | Let us know when the cannabis wears off. How about another example? Lets say someone flogs something and lists a price not unreasonable but waaaay more than you and your mates, having spent all your dosh on beer, are willing to spend. What do you do then? How much 'community spirit' do you think you've built? Do you think a better way to 'build community' might have been to send a private PM to the seller instead of engaging in a public dogpile? Wait...I guess I know what you and your mates might do.....
I belong to another forum that is a) global in scope, b) has a much larger membership, c) has a stronger sense of 'community' because of a shared interest, and d) a very active member's market, much larger than EF. There, the rule is 'don't comment on someone else's sale'. I think it's a good rule and it keeps people from verbally abusing each other and destroying the very community you've been trying to build. The 'no comment' rule was instituted for that reason because things were getting out of hand. | | | | |
not really a fair comparison, as we all know switzerland is an 'odd' market, someone fresh off the boat would see the shop / dealer prices, have a small heart attack, then think that 15k chf for a clapped out 20 yr old astra with no mfk was actually a pretty sweet swiss deal
the for sale section is free, if you want to sell something with no comeback or questions then PAY for an ad on ricardo etc, else bugger off
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08.11.2011, 16:27
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| | Re: Forum market place prices | Quote: | |  | | | "buyers are deliberately uniformed" ?? 
you have to dress up to sell stuff here?  | | | | | Gah, pedants....
Still, I think it's fair to expect a reasonable standard of dress from a seller, underwear or bathrobe minimum.
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