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11.12.2011, 21:28
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
| Quote: | |  | | | Does anyone feels that the rules of the English forum are too harsh? I mean, this forum should be here for the benefit of the public (most notably the English speaking public). I am a newbee here and I cant start threads in many forums. Whats the logic in that? Moreover, they scare you with banning you permanently if you try disobey the rules. Sometime you disobey them without knowing and there is a certain violent feeling in the air when you get a reply from the administrator. Come on!
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11.12.2011, 21:30
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
| Quote: | | | | | I don't think that EF is dissimilar to many other forums; in as much as there will always be those members who like to make sarcastic comments to newbies (and others), those that don't and a myriad of others inbetween. | | | | | The scientific thing to do would be to post a poll  | | This user would like to thank marksmadsen for this useful post: | |
11.12.2011, 21:40
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
| Quote: | | | | | The scientific thing to do would be to post a poll | | | | | I will leave that to you!
However, I cannot help but question the integrity of Mods who condone newbie bashing  | | The following 6 users would like to thank NSchulzi for this useful post: | |
11.12.2011, 21:41
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
| Quote: | | | | | I see EF more as being for the benefit of members and free use of the advertising section in the Market Place is a priviledge for the use of useful members.
If you read enough Threads in Forum Support you'll probably find several which explain the reasoning behind the Market Place Rules. | | | | | That actually makes sense and also put in a non-offensive way. So thanks for your reply.
By the way, I think I am stating to like this place. Its alive!!!
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11.12.2011, 21:45
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
| Quote: | | | | | One even bad rep'd me for it.
 | | | | | Really ? 
I didn't think they really existed.
Never saw a real one, you do know they're magic and mysterious
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11.12.2011, 21:46
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
Jordan,
As Neil Young wrote "dont let it bring you down" (Im quite sure the song doesnt really fit here but...). In any case, I owe you one defending a newbie.
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11.12.2011, 21:50
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
| Quote: | | | | | Jordan,
As Neil Young wrote "dont let it bring you down" (Im quite sure the song doesnt really fit here but...). In any case, I owe you one defending a newbie. | | | | | Haha, no worries here my friend.
Thick skinned this one! 
I have taken it upon myself to the fight the fight others feel they can not.
I get all sorts of abuse though, it's great.
My inbox is full of whinning people, and my rep full of negatives from comments I groaned. Part and parcel.
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11.12.2011, 21:51
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
| Quote: | | | | | That actually makes sense and also put in a non-offensive way. So thanks for your reply.
By the way, I think I am stating to like this place. Its alive!!! | | | | | Yes, it's very much alive.
Welcome 
There's a certain amount of teasing, most of it is kindly.
The mods do a very good job of keeping the house in order.
And it's a lovely place to make friends.. so do stay a while
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11.12.2011, 21:59
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
| Quote: | | | | | Your reply to my post is just a perfect example to the atmosphere I was alluding at. What is wrong with my original post that you say that it should be stopped from being posted? This forum is about Zurich daily life right, I am leaving in Zurich and as part of my daily life I want to use the English forum which sometimes pisses me off (like your reply). So why dont you exercise your brain cells a bit and answer my post honestly? | | | | | And now you have enough posts to start handing out groans - well done...
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11.12.2011, 22:47
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
| Quote: | | | | | Welcome to the English Forum
The breeding place of self righteousness, patronization and passive aggressive bigotry.
It can be a complicated and contradicting place, you can find yourself bemused with the inconsistencies of rule application, or tolerance of long term residents toward new members, such as yourself.
I assume when you have been using a forum on a daily basis, practicing the faiths and rituals of the forum itself it becomes ingrained in the fabric of your very life. When a new, virgin to the forum rocks up and doesn’t find it explicitly simplistic to post a thread in the right area of topical relevance then they should be hounded and beasted upon by the wolves of EF supremacy.
But...........you will find yourself drawn to this savage environment. Embroiled in the confrontation, laughing at the wit and intelligence, or sighing at the arrogance and self wallowing. We enjoy the ups and downs, the daily life reads, the general off topic posts, and the market place can be buzzing like borough market on a busy day, bargains a plenty.
Enjoy! | | | | | Do we use the same forum??? If there were any of the things that you mentioned, I for one would not use it on a daily basis. Where do you see bigotry?
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11.12.2011, 22:53
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
| Quote: | | | | | Do we use the same forum??? If there were any of the things that you mentioned, I for one would not use it on a daily basis. Where do you see bigotry? | | | | | You are being sarcastic right?
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11.12.2011, 23:38
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
| Quote: | | | | | You are being sarcastic right? | | | | | Sarcasm does not become me. 
"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
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11.12.2011, 23:43
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
Sure it can be a bit harsh here especially if one comes over as rude.
i would imagine when you start a new job or meet anew group you watch a little and assess the norms before being outspoken or critical of that group. It's the same here
It's fair enough for any club or group to have rules and joining isn't obligatory
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12.12.2011, 01:13
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
Newbie bashing? I think there is some teasing that will always go on, as in any group of folks accepting a newcomer, or a newcomer making an entry. I am not a fan of favoritism, but my real favorite members usually took it so well they came out of the whole play fight better off than those who tried to tease them too hard.. . Sense of humor is a prerequisite, often seems, and taking a little while to read up. There might be some to point out stuff to newbies, and might not be gentle about it, while we have a lot more others who will guide, be patient and help out, enormously. I love it.
Mods bashing newsbies? I don't think so. There will be debates, rules explanations, etc etc., plus you can always contact any mod to have things explained that do not make sense in privacy, instead of subjecting yourself to folks possibly picking. But as it was nicely put, I would start reading up stickies first, general nettiquette, etc.
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12.12.2011, 01:22
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
| Quote: | | | | | Newbie bashing? I think there is some teasing that will always go on, as in any group of folks accepting a newcomer, or a newcomer making an entry. I am not a fan of favoritism, but my real favorite members usually took it so well they came out of the whole play fight better off than those who tried to tease them too hard.. . Sense of humor is a prerequisite, often seems, and taking a little while to read up. There might be some to point out stuff to newbies, and might not be gentle about it, while we have a lot more others who will guide, be patient and help out, enormously. I love it.
Mods bashing newsbies? I don't think so. There will be debates, rules explanations, etc etc., plus you can always contact any mod to have things explained that do not make sense in privacy, instead of subjecting yourself to folks possibly picking. But as it was nicely put, I would start reading up stickies first, general nettiquette, etc. | | | | | You are very right. But the OP admitted that he only wants to sell something. So he basically complains about the rules because they dont suit him.
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12.12.2011, 01:29
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
| Quote: | | | | | You are very right. But the OP admitted that he only wants to sell something. So he basically complains about the rules because they dont suit him. | | | | | Yeah, I know....I do like the rule on showing up, acknowledging the community, introduction and taking a little time to get familiar with the feel here and contributing something worthy, hopefully, before using this platform for solely self serving purposes. It does not take so much.
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12.12.2011, 02:25
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
| Quote: | | | | | You are very right. But the OP admitted that he only wants to sell something. So he basically complains about the rules because they dont suit him. | | | | | OK guys, I started this thread, at the beginning of it I didnt know anything about this forum (hey I didnt know anything of any forum) but now I begin to see. Obviously there is a live community here and people here feel at home, know the other ppl and can spot a newbie like me from miles. Honestly (and I hope that you can at least credit me for being honest) I didnt see this picture and I thought its a simple platform that is there for the public use, like a public garden - there are rules, you cant just trash it - but its there for the public and if I am new at this garden it doesnt make it yours more than its mine (I know ill be bashed for that one ). So yes let me say it out loud I WANT TO ADVERTISE SOMETHING AND THIS IS WHY I JOINED. Is that a crime? Yes yes I know, ppl here already kindly explained that this forum is more (much more) than an advertisement board.
Hey I kinda feel good that I stirred all this sh*t. Love this forum!
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12.12.2011, 02:38
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
Now I can tell you Welcome to the forum!, Im thinking you'll stay even after you advertise | Quote: | | | | | OK guys, I started this thread, at the beginning of it I didnt know anything about this forum (hey I didnt know anything of any forum) but now I begin to see. Obviously there is a live community here and people here feel at home, know the other ppl and can spot a newbie like me from miles. Honestly (and I hope that you can at least credit me for being honest) I didnt see this picture and I thought its a simple platform that is there for the public use, like a public garden - there are rules, you cant just trash it - but its there for the public and if I am new at this garden it doesnt make it yours more than its mine (I know ill be bashed for that one ). So yes let me say it out loud I WANT TO ADVERTISE SOMETHING AND THIS IS WHY I JOINED. Is that a crime? Yes yes I know, ppl here already kindly explained that this forum is more (much more) than an advertisement board.
Hey I kinda feel good that I stirred all this sh*t. Love this forum! | | | | | |
12.12.2011, 09:11
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
| Quote: | | | | | OK guys, I started this thread, at the beginning of it I didnt know anything about this forum (hey I didnt know anything of any forum) but now I begin to see. Obviously there is a live community here and people here feel at home, know the other ppl and can spot a newbie like me from miles. Honestly (and I hope that you can at least credit me for being honest) I didnt see this picture and I thought its a simple platform that is there for the public use, like a public garden - there are rules, you cant just trash it - but its there for the public and if I am new at this garden it doesnt make it yours more than its mine (I know ill be bashed for that one ). So yes let me say it out loud I WANT TO ADVERTISE SOMETHING AND THIS IS WHY I JOINED. Is that a crime? Yes yes I know, ppl here already kindly explained that this forum is more (much more) than an advertisement board.
Hey I kinda feel good that I stirred all this sh*t. Love this forum! | | | | |
Welcome to EF!
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14.12.2011, 00:35
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| | | Re: The rules of the English forum
| Quote: | | | | | OK guys, I started this thread, at the beginning of it I didnt know anything about this forum (hey I didnt know anything of any forum) but now I begin to see. Obviously there is a live community here and people here feel at home, know the other ppl and can spot a newbie like me from miles. Honestly (and I hope that you can at least credit me for being honest) I didnt see this picture and I thought its a simple platform that is there for the public use, like a public garden - there are rules, you cant just trash it - but its there for the public and if I am new at this garden it doesnt make it yours more than its mine (I know ill be bashed for that one ). So yes let me say it out loud I WANT TO ADVERTISE SOMETHING AND THIS IS WHY I JOINED. Is that a crime? Yes yes I know, ppl here already kindly explained that this forum is more (much more) than an advertisement board.
Hey I kinda feel good that I stirred all this sh*t. Love this forum! | | | | | Looking forward to seeing what you have to sell now You know that you can also advertise for free on other websites?
On the bright side, one good thing to come of this thread is that it helped in getting Jordanbarrzurich86 banned  | |
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