What are the posting rules for newbies?

ushapira · #1 11.12.2011, 18:33

Does anyone feels that the rules of the English forum are too harsh? I mean, this forum should be here for the benefit of the public (most notably the English speaking public). I am a newbee here and I cant start threads in many forums. Whats the logic in that? Moreover, they scare you with banning you permanently if you try disobey the rules. Sometime you disobey them without knowing and there is a certain violent feeling in the air when you get a reply from the administrator. Come on!

Please share your thoughts in the subject, I would love to be enlightened.

AbFab · #2 11.12.2011, 18:35

	Quote:	ushapira
	Does anyone feels that the rules of the English forum are too harsh? I mean, this forum should be here for the benefit of the public (most notably the English speaking public). I am a newbee here and I cant start threads in many forums. Whats the logic in that? Moreover, they scare you with banning you permanently if you try disobey the rules. Sometime you disobey them without knowing and there is a certain violent feeling in the air when you get a reply from the administrator. Come on! Please share your thoughts in the subject, I would love to be enlightened.

It's to stop you posting tripe like the above - and you still managed it.

Great second post...

ushapira · #3 11.12.2011, 18:49

Your reply to my post is just a perfect example to the atmosphere I was alluding at. What is wrong with my original post that you say that it should be stopped from being posted? This forum is about Zurich daily life right, I am leaving in Zurich and as part of my daily life I want to use the English forum which sometimes pisses me off (like your reply). So why dont you exercise your brain cells a bit and answer my post honestly?

Ouchboy · #4 11.12.2011, 18:53

so you were trying to sell something and failed?
(9 posts today are higlhy suspect) the market place is the only forum where you are not allowed to post until you meet the criteria.

NSchulzi · #5 11.12.2011, 18:53

	Quote:	ushapira
	Does anyone feels that the rules of the English forum are too harsh? I mean, this forum should be here for the benefit of the public (most notably the English speaking public). I am a newbee here and I cant start threads in many forums. Whats the logic in that? Moreover, they scare you with banning you permanently if you try disobey the rules. Sometime you disobey them without knowing and there is a certain violent feeling in the air when you get a reply from the administrator. Come on! Please share your thoughts in the subject, I would love to be enlightened.

	Quote:	ushapira
	Your reply to my post is just a perfect example to the atmosphere I was alluding at. What is wrong with my original post that you say that it should be stopped from being posted? This forum is about Zurich daily life right, I am leaving in Zurich and as part of my daily life I want to use the English forum which sometimes pisses me off (like your reply). So why dont you exercise your brain cells a bit and answer my post honestly?

You committed the unpardonable mistake of not having asked nicely.

coconut · #6 11.12.2011, 18:56

You are being a bit rude and you are new, but behave like you have been before...?

The forum has its rules, its not on you or me to decide on them but on the administrator and the team who helps doing this forum the place that it is. it can be annoying sometimes, some rules but, hey! if you dont like it you can always choose other forum. If i dont like some of the music in a night club i have the choice to stay for the things i like or leave to another club.

My post is not in any way written to offend you or cause you more discontent.

ushapira · #7 11.12.2011, 19:09

How can I reply to all of you - its a mess. Here is the thing, I get it that there are rules and that they are here to make this forum what it is and that I should be appreciative. I am. On the other hand please judge for yourselves but try to be objective: I am just a guy leaving in Zurich, I subscribed to the forum a while ago but didnt post as I didnt find the need to (but just for the record, I enjoyed reading other posts). In any case, the day comes and I want to post an add at the market place. Something that in my mind seems legit and also beneficial to the forum members (hey maybe someone will be interested). Then there is this 10 posts rule and I get annoyed but I comply and say to myself OK ill play by the rules, ill participate in the forum (like Im doing now) and gain my 10 posts honestly. One of the posts started this thread and complained about the harsh rules and the atmosphere around them. 30 seconds after you can see what happens, somebody posts a rude reply (then I was rude to him too). Many others thought I was an idiot. Can you explain why? But please do so in a dignified way. I am not stupid and now it became a real principle issue to me. There is no need to be rude. Just explain whats wrong in what I am doing. I can imagine that I will be accused by taking advantage of the forum ("this guy just wants to sell stuff and he doesnt want to really participate in the forum like the rest of us...") but hey, you are all taking advantage of this platform if it to be for selling something, asking advise, sharing thoughts, giving advise. Thats the whole point here. This forum exists for these purposes and we all enjoy it.

AbFab · #8 11.12.2011, 19:13

	Quote:	ushapira
	Your reply to my post is just a perfect example to the atmosphere I was alluding at. What is wrong with my original post that you say that it should be stopped from being posted? This forum is about Zurich daily life right, I am leaving in Zurich and as part of my daily life I want to use the English forum which sometimes pisses me off (like your reply). So why dont you exercise your brain cells a bit and answer my post honestly?

You asked for thoughts and you got them - now you don't like it??

Insulting posters who don't give the answer you want to read is a short road to nowhere...

JBZ86 · #9 11.12.2011, 19:13

	Quote:	ushapira
	Your reply to my post is just a perfect example to the atmosphere I was alluding at. What is wrong with my original post that you say that it should be stopped from being posted? This forum is about Zurich daily life right, I am leaving in Zurich and as part of my daily life I want to use the English forum which sometimes pisses me off (like your reply). So why dont you exercise your brain cells a bit and answer my post honestly?

Welcome to the English Forum

The breeding place of self righteousness, patronization and passive aggressive bigotry.

It can be a complicated and contradicting place, you can find yourself bemused with the inconsistencies of rule application, or tolerance of long term residents toward new members, such as yourself.

I assume when you have been using a forum on a daily basis, practicing the faiths and rituals of the forum itself it becomes ingrained in the fabric of your very life. When a new, virgin to the forum rocks up and doesn’t find it explicitly simplistic to post a thread in the right area of topical relevance then they should be hounded and beasted upon by the wolves of EF supremacy.

But...........you will find yourself drawn to this savage environment. Embroiled in the confrontation, laughing at the wit and intelligence, or sighing at the arrogance and self wallowing. We enjoy the ups and downs, the daily life reads, the general off topic posts, and the market place can be buzzing like borough market on a busy day, bargains a plenty.

Enjoy!

NSchulzi · #10 11.12.2011, 19:19

I don't think that EF is dissimilar to many other forums; in as much as there will always be those members who like to make sarcastic comments to newbies (and others), those that don't and a myriad of others inbetween.

JBZ86 · #11 11.12.2011, 19:27

But beware, even the mods will get an agenda against you, and bad rep you for making a post which they have trouble reading with a pinch of salt.

Maybe you need to do as your username says mr mod

Mark75 · #12 11.12.2011, 19:30

	Quote:	ushapira
	How can I reply to all of you - its a mess. Here is the thing, I get it that there are rules and that they are here to make this forum what it is and that I should be appreciative. I am. On the other hand please judge for yourselves but try to be objective: I am just a guy leaving in Zurich, I subscribed to the forum a while ago but didnt post as I didnt find the need to (but just for the record, I enjoyed reading other posts). In any case, the day comes and I want to post an add at the market place. Something that in my mind seems legit and also beneficial to the forum members (hey maybe someone will be interested). Then there is this 10 posts rule and I get annoyed but I comply and say to myself OK ill play by the rules, ill participate in the forum (like Im doing now) and gain my 10 posts honestly. One of the posts started this thread and complained about the harsh rules and the atmosphere around them. 30 seconds after you can see what happens, somebody posts a rude reply (then I was rude to him too). Many others thought I was an idiot. Can you explain why? But please do so in a dignified way. I am not stupid and now it became a real principle issue to me. There is no need to be rude. Just explain whats wrong in what I am doing. I can imagine that I will be accused by taking advantage of the forum ("this guy just wants to sell stuff and he doesnt want to really participate in the forum like the rest of us...") but hey, you are all taking advantage of this platform if it to be for selling something, asking advise, sharing thoughts, giving advise. Thats the whole point here. This forum exists for these purposes and we all enjoy it.

For starters I suggest structuring your posts into a somewhat readable format.

...other than that I suggest you grow some skin.

Oldhand · #13 11.12.2011, 19:32

Yes there are those that do and those that don't. Even after the years I've been on the forum, I still don't get why people have to be nasty and sarky to newbies.

Bellabuu · #14 11.12.2011, 19:34

Is there a link where i can read about the rules please?

TiMow · #15 11.12.2011, 19:34

We all had to serve our apprenticeship, and find our place in the pecking order - what makes you different that you believe you can jump this important stage.
Knowing how to play the game is the best rule you can learn.

KeinFranzösisch · #16 11.12.2011, 19:46

Remember... this is an English-speaking forum in Switzerland. So... aside from English rules, there are also Swiss rules.

Therefore, thou shalt fit in, or else.

Oh yes. And no flushing the toilet after 10:00pm.

ushapira · #17 11.12.2011, 19:48

Dear Jordan,

Thanks for your replies!!! I appreciate it.

bigblue2 · #18 11.12.2011, 20:16

given the amount of posts you have made quickly, and there content, I would say you understand the rules perfectly

So, what are you trying to sell?

(and don't even think of groaning me JordanBarrZurich86)

Nil · #19 11.12.2011, 20:24

I can understand that you post to have the 10 posts count. It is the rule and you play by it. I appreciate the tips you gave too instead of the 2-3 words send here and there we often see. You did an effort in what you wrote.

You know you have to wait a week also to be able to post on the market place plus your ten posts? It will come fast enough if you look around the forum and spend a bit of time here.

You'll soon find out who's who and the style of them. Good luck with that! And welcome on the forum!

Nil

Longbyt · #20 11.12.2011, 20:25

	Quote:	ushapira
	Does anyone feels that the rules of the English forum are too harsh? I mean, this forum should be here for the benefit of the public (most notably the English speaking public).

I see EF more as being for the benefit of members and free use of the advertising section in the Market Place is a priviledge for the use of useful members.

If you read enough Threads in Forum Support you'll probably find several which explain the reasoning behind the Market Place Rules.