4% Lockout

Caviarchips · #1 27.12.2011, 08:48

Because its a quiet week, I hit my 2% weekly limit yesterday. When I checked this morning, the averages of yesterday show four non-Mods with higher than 4% postings.

How can that happen please? (I don't mind reading from any of those 4 people - just wondering how the limits can be exceeded)

Assassin · #2 27.12.2011, 08:57

	Quote:	Caviarchips
	Because its a quiet week, I hit my 2% weekly limit yesterday. When I checked this morning, the averages of yesterday show four non-Mods with higher than 4% postings. How can that happen please? (I don't mind reading from any of those 4 people - just wondering how the limits can be exceeded)

I hit my daily "not to exceed" on Dec 25, never happened to me before either. Less than 10 posts too. Maybe the reduced volume of other good folk posting plays with the numbers in vBulletin?

Phil_MCR · #3 27.12.2011, 09:07

	Quote:	Caviarchips
	Because its a quiet week, I hit my 2% weekly limit yesterday. When I checked this morning, the averages of yesterday show four non-Mods with higher than 4% postings. How can that happen please? (I don't mind reading from any of those 4 people - just wondering how the limits can be exceeded)

You might be at 3.9% then your last post might then take you above 4%.

Phil_MCR · #4 27.12.2011, 09:10

	Quote:	Assassin
	I hit my daily "not to exceed" on Dec 25, never happened to me before either. Less than 10 posts too. Maybe the reduced volume of other good folk posting plays with the numbers in vBulletin?

Since it's 4% of daily posts, then yes, volume of posts do matter

Ouchboy · #5 27.12.2011, 09:15

Caviarchips · #6 27.12.2011, 09:20

	Quote:	Phil_MCR
	You might be at 3.9% then your last post might then take you above 4%.

Because its live, the numbers have updated since I posted so they have gone, but not all of the posters were on the same % ie it can't just be one post that tipped them over

Ouchboy · #7 27.12.2011, 09:25

the numbers are indeed acting funneh. It's due to the lack of lolcats... I mean posts...

It has happened to me and grynch on the way down too. after other people's percentages go up, it lowers either his or mine but not both.

MathNut · #8 27.12.2011, 19:04

It happens because both post counts (yours and the total) are rolling totals over the last 24 hours.

Say you come online after Friday lunch, spend all afternoon posting maniacally (not an uncommon pattern) and hit your posting cap shortly before 5pm (again not an uncommon pattern.) Your own post-count-in-last-24-hours will stay the same until Saturday afternoon, when the Friday afternoon posts will start dropping off the total one by one. If the total post-count-in-last-24-hours decreases during that time - say, because everyone else isn't posting as much Saturday morning as they were on Friday morning - then your percentage of that total goes up, even though you haven't made any new posts.

Hope this is clear - I've just reread it and I'm not sure it is at all.

It does happen occasionally - noticed it several times back when I was a mod (and therefore paying a little more attention to things like posting stats.)

onei · #9 27.12.2011, 19:11

	Quote:	Caviarchips
	Because its a quiet week, I hit my 2% weekly limit yesterday. When I checked this morning, the averages of yesterday show four non-Mods with higher than 4% postings. How can that happen please? (I don't mind reading from any of those 4 people - just wondering how the limits can be exceeded)

There are only limits if you believe there are limits, if something tells you can't do something then you should find a way to say I want to and do it !

cannut · #10 27.12.2011, 19:23

	Quote:	MathNut
	It happens because both post counts (yours and the total) are rolling totals over the last 24 hours. Say you come online after Friday lunch, spend all afternoon posting maniacally (not an uncommon pattern) and hit your posting cap shortly before 5pm (again not an uncommon pattern.) Your own post-count-in-last-24-hours will stay the same until Saturday afternoon, when the Friday afternoon posts will start dropping off the total one by one. If the total post-count-in-last-24-hours decreases during that time - say, because everyone else isn't posting as much Saturday morning as they were on Friday morning - then your percentage of that total goes up, even though you haven't made any new posts. Hope this is clear - I've just reread it and I'm not sure it is at all. It does happen occasionally - noticed it several times back when I was a mod (and therefore paying a little more attention to things like posting stats.)

Now I got the proof I need .We need more philosopher and less mathematicians

onei · #11 27.12.2011, 19:54

	Quote:	cannut
	Now I got the proof I need .We need more philosopher and less mathematicians

Programmes are written by humans, to find the weaknesses you don't have to be skilled just put yourself in the mind of the programmer....I have exceeded my quota today yet I am still posting....Maybe the MODS can suss it out ?

It's not technical at all and no hacking or programming skills are required

I'm not going to post any more today because I will leave breadcrumbs and make the task easier....

Caviarchips · #12 27.12.2011, 20:21

	Quote:	onei
	Programmes are written by humans, to find the weaknesses you don't have to be skilled just put yourself in the mind of the programmer....I have exceeded my quota today yet I am still posting....Maybe the MODS can suss it out ? It's not technical at all and no hacking or programming skills are required I'm not going to post any more today because I will leave breadcrumbs and make the task easier....

OK, I'll bite then

No you aren't over your limit, you posted 8 times only

mirfield · #13 27.12.2011, 20:35

It's probably easier to explain with a hypothetical extreme example.

Between 8am and 10 am there are 99 posts by other people. You come along at 11am and make a post - so you have 1%.

Then nobody posts.

At 7.59am the next day you are still on 1%

Then, as other posts drop out of the 24 hour window, your percentage will begin to rise, until between 10 and 11am you will have made 100% of the posts, before dropping back to zero.

So basically, when the forum is quiet, the figures can be a little weird.

Caviarchips · #14 27.12.2011, 20:42

	Quote:	mirfield
	It's probably easier to explain with a hypothetical extreme example. Between 8am and 10 am there are 99 posts by other people. You come along at 11am and make a post - so you have 1%. Then nobody posts. At 7.59am the next day you are still on 1% Then, as other posts drop out of the 24 hour window, your percentage will begin to rise, until between 10 and 11am you will have made 100% of the posts, before dropping back to zero. So basically, when the forum is quiet, the figures can be a little weird.

Well that's all very well......but do you miss me when I can't post? I mean.....that was all I wanted. Is it sooo difficult to say?

mirfield · #15 27.12.2011, 20:47

	Quote:	Caviarchips
	Well that's all very well......but do you miss me when I can't post? I mean.....that was all I wanted. Is it sooo difficult to say?

Do monkeys miss peanuts?

KeinFranzösisch · #16 27.12.2011, 20:49

if it's any consolation I keep trying to post, but every time I start trying to form a thought someone comes up behind me and interrupts me or calls me away from the computer. Then I have to close the window and abandon my contribution.

Bloody family christmases!

onei · #17 27.12.2011, 23:18

	Quote:	Caviarchips
	OK, I'll bite then No you aren't over your limit, you posted 8 times only

If that's the case please explain this to me

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