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Old 31.01.2013, 11:06
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Did you do a search?

To search or not to search, that is the question.

You really can't win.

If you don't do a search, a ton of people come by to complain that you haven't done a search.

If you do a search, you get chastised by a mod because you've bumped an old thread, and the thread gets locked.

So what do we want people to do? Search, not search, or search and start a new thread?!?

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Old 31.01.2013, 11:14
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Re: Did you do a search?

Definitely do a search first and if you find any outdated information, it is better to start a new thread, so fellow members can provide you with up to date and relevant data.
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Old 31.01.2013, 11:38
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Re: Did you do a search?

I'd agree if it is a very personal subject. But if the subject is of general interest, current, and could serve as good info for all the newbies who joined since the thread was started- what harm does it do???
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Old 31.01.2013, 11:41
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Re: Did you do a search?

Does LiB do searches now?

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Old 31.01.2013, 11:44
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Re: Did you do a search?

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I'd agree if it is a very personal subject. But if the subject is of general interest, current, and could serve as good info for all the newbies who joined since the thread was started- what harm does it do???
It wouldn't do much harm...however, the thread didn't really contain any useful information and as a matter of fact, had a link posted to an even older thread. In general, it is always better not to cross requests as it can create confusion.
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Old 31.01.2013, 11:48
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Re: Did you do a search?

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In general, it is always better not to cross requests as it can create confusion.
Good, this is much clearer. In the future, we can ask people to make individual salary requests, since no two circumstances are exactly the same.
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Re: Did you do a search?

OK fine, I see what you mean. But then your reply seems to indicate that it is not worth doing a search - as information might be out of date
And if the thread didn't contain any useful feed back - isn't useful to re-open to include such? As VillageIdiot says, sometimes you can't win, hey.
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Old 31.01.2013, 11:56
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Re: Did you do a search?

Mods can move posts, combine threads, etc. Can they spin the "new" post off into its own new thread?

Personally, I do search, and sometimes I necro an old thread because I believe its still relevant, and I want ask my own question on the topic of the thread, or I want to ask if the information in the thread is still accurate. I really do try to not make work for the mods.
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Old 31.01.2013, 11:58
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Re: Did you do a search?

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Mods can move posts, combine threads, etc. Can they spin the "new" post off into its own new thread?
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Personally, I do search, and sometimes I necro an old thread because I believe its still relevant, and I want ask my own question on the topic of the thread, or I want to ask if the information in the thread is still accurate. I really do try to not make work for the mods.
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Old 31.01.2013, 12:09
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Re: Did you do a search?

I try to only bump old threads if I originally said something particularly witty in them.... This one will sink to the bottom, quickly.
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Old 31.01.2013, 12:10
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Re: Did you do a search?

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I really do try to not make work for the mods.

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Old 31.01.2013, 12:14
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Old 31.01.2013, 12:53
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Re: Did you do a search?

Noobs are just noobs, and we have to deal with their growing pains. It seems like a lot of the noobs on here are new to Forums in general, not just CH. It takes a while to get your feet and learn the culture of a Forum.

That said, I have learned by observation to do the following on EF:

1 - Search, using several different word combinations, to see if there's anything related to my topic of interest.
2 - Read the relevant threads, noting whether they are ancient or not.
3 - Bump a thread if it is not ancient and still contains some good info or
4 - Start a new thread with a profuse apology of my ignorance, mention that I have searched and not found anything similar (or current) and then
5 - Duck.

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Old 31.01.2013, 12:57
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Noobs are just noobs, and we have to deal with their growing pains. It seems like a lot of the noobs on here are new to Forums in general, not just CH. It takes a while to get your feet and learn the culture of a Forum.

That said, I have learned by observation to do the following on EF:

1 - Search, using several different word combinations, to see if there's anything related to my topic of interest.
2 - Read the relevant threads, noting whether they are ancient or not.
3 - Bump a thread if it is not ancient and still contains some good info or
4 - Start a new thread with a profuse apology of my ignorance, mention that I have searched and not found anything similar (or current) and then
5 - Duck.

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Now, there is something to be said for the "Yeah I started a new thread on a subject that's been done to death! What you gonna do about it, punk?!?" attitude. It tends to get a lot of responses (just not good answers to the topic, however...)
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Old 31.01.2013, 13:08
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Re: Did you do a search?

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To search or not to search, that is the question.

You really can't win.

If you don't do a search, a ton of people come by to complain that you haven't done a search.

If you do a search, you get chastised by a mod because you've bumped an old thread, and the thread gets locked.

So what do we want people to do? Search, not search, or search and start a new thread?!?

Where it relates to technical threads (eg tax, pensions) that I often focus on, it seems to me pretty clear good practise would be:

1. Do a search (or two with different key words 'cause even more irritating than no search is the "I did a search but didnt find anything" opener when you know there are dozens of threads touching on said topic)
2. Start a new thread that ideally summarizes the key learning from what you did find, maybe with crossreference to the threads and then asks the specific further questions/updates
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