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Creating a new forum category in English Forum

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This is a question for English Forum - Would it be possible to create a new forum category in English Forum entitled "Frontaliers" (on issues and interests relating to people working in Switzerland and living in France and the vice versa)? Thanks, would be much appreciated!

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Re: Creating a new forum category in English Forum

Mods seem reluctant to add new categories unless there is a very strong case.

If a new category was created, would it be better to include all neighbouring countries? I don't know if there are any similarities/differences with others compared to France.
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Re: Creating a new forum category in English Forum

It would be fine to include all neighbouring countries. There is a lot all frontaliers can learn from each other.
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Re: Creating a new forum category in English Forum

It could be interesting.
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Re: Creating a new forum category in English Forum

You can still post all of those questions here, the resources are still available. Not sure what benefit the clutter of an extra heading would bring. I suggest you just start the discussions in "Other/General" and uses that heading for everything
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You can still post all of those questions here, the resources are still available. Not sure what benefit the clutter of an extra heading would bring. I suggest you just start the discussions in "Other/General" and uses that heading for everything
Quite. All else apart, having more categories and trying to stick on topic tends to dilute the value of some types of post - in this case, for example, what about subjects of interest to people whose lives span the border(s) but are not technically frontaliers?

No, unless there were a vast number of discussions of no wider relevance I think it best not to add new categories for them.
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You can still post all of those questions here, the resources are still available. Not sure what benefit the clutter of an extra heading would bring. I suggest you just start the discussions in "Other/General" and uses that heading for everything

I would think it would help people in searching for info on the subject to find it easier. Perhaps resulting in fewer "did you do a search" posts...
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Re: Creating a new forum category in English Forum

I think people might actually avoid subforums geographically divided, if they don't happen to live in that particular area. Topic divisions are good, but topic AND area divisions might lower traffic in threads frontaliers might want or need a lot of traffic and input.

I think making the frontalier aspect obvious in the thread title might help, too..All suggestions are always considered, though, let's see what community thinks.
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Re: Creating a new forum category in English Forum

I think we should start a poll to see if there should be a new category for people asking for new categories.

To keep it simple. Each person would have twelve points which have to be spread equally between ethnic, race and colored categories. Furthermore, minorities, dwarves and woodland creatures would also need to be represented with sub-categories with subject relevant matter contained in each sub-titled, sub-sub-category.

Once the results of the poll have been judged to be fair by the European Courts of Human Rights in The Hague, moderators will have to enforce fair commentary and equal bias to each subject categorized in each sub-category. After an introductory period of 180 years, a re-evaluation of each sub-category will be performed to see if that sub-category should further gain further sub-categories, or be left as the top of the existing sub-category themed subject.

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Re: Creating a new forum category in English Forum

I agree, and I think bringing in a new category would lead to less clutter: Frontaliers have special needs, specific legal problems, which are of no interest to any of us.
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Re: Creating a new forum category in English Forum

use a tag. Frontalier. Simples.
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I would think it would help people in searching for info on the subject to find it easier.
But then possibly excluding relevant posts that happen to not _quite_ fit into the category. So you'd need separate ones for official frontaliers, weekend francophiles, spend just enough time in CH to keep C permits, shopping in France/Germany, customs limits, etc. many of which are of a much more general interest.

As I said before, the only reason I can see for separating them is if the posting volume is such that it's annoying for those not interested, and I really don't see that at the moment.
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Old 08.03.2013, 09:18
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Re: Creating a new forum category in English Forum

All that would happen is that mods would spend even more time moving and splitting borderline (!) threads.

There are already forums for discussing French issues - General Off Topic and International. As it stands we we tend to leave them in the appropriate Swiss forum.
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I think people might actually avoid subforums geographically divided, if they don't happen to live in that particular area. Topic divisions are good, but topic AND area divisions might lower traffic in threads frontaliers might want or need a lot of traffic and input.

I think making the frontalier aspect obvious in the thread title might help, too..All suggestions are always considered, though, let's see what community thinks.
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But then possibly excluding relevant posts that happen to not _quite_ fit into the category. So you'd need separate ones for official frontaliers, weekend francophiles, spend just enough time in CH to keep C permits, shopping in France/Germany, customs limits, etc. many of which are of a much more general interest.

As I said before, the only reason I can see for separating them is if the posting volume is such that it's annoying for those not interested, and I really don't see that at the moment.
I only made my comment on the basis that IF a new category was created, it should be one broad category, not separate ones for each country.

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use a tag. Frontalier. Simples.
That would be great if everyone used tags, added relevant ones and didn't misuse tags
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I think we should start a poll to see if there should be a new category for people asking for new categories.

To keep it simple. Each person would have twelve points which have to be spread equally between ethnic, race and colored categories. Furthermore, minorities, dwarves and woodland creatures would also need to be represented with sub-categories with subject relevant matter contained in each sub-titled, sub-sub-category.

Once the results of the poll have been judged to be fair by the European Courts of Human Rights in The Hague, moderators will have to enforce fair commentary and equal bias to each subject categorized in each sub-category. After an introductory period of 180 years, a re-evaluation of each sub-category will be performed to see if that sub-category should further gain further sub-categories, or be left as the top of the existing sub-category themed subject.

Clear enough?

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Re: Creating a new forum category in English Forum

I think this Forum would only direct you to the one they have in France. Which I also think is a mistake. There is a lot of inter commerce between border areas. Something like 900,000 people living in the area of Alsace work in Switzerland and return home to France. Saying one should only be restricted to a forum of where they lay their head at night, makes the use of a forum rather useless. Expanding to these areas would help those, who might move back and forth, or do business on either side, still interested in each other's costumes.

I definitely would support a category for border region discussions. It's not so easy thinking up tags, or searching the different already existing categories, to find just simple, but highly useful information. If you want to make this site more bureaucratic I think it goes against the purpose of it.

Making a clear category where people want to discuss info as it pertains to Alsace, Konstanz, that area east of Lichtenstein, Ain, Savoy and Jura, and northern Italy, would be an asset to this site.
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Re: Creating a new forum category in English Forum

Maybe a category like "Frontaliers and cross-border commuting" could capture a number of elements mentioned in this thread, but is not too narrowly focused.
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Maybe a category like "Frontaliers and cross-border commuting" could capture a number of elements mentioned in this thread, but is not too narrowly focused.
We've discussed it and we don't think there is any value in it as it just will create more work to move things in and out without adding much extra value. Please just use the "Other / General" category if no other seems to fit, and use the tags too

Thanks for the suggestion
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We've discussed it and we don't think there is any value in it as it just will create more work to move things in and out without adding much extra value. Please just use the "Other / General" category if no other seems to fit, and use the tags too

Thanks for the suggestion
Can I a symbolic groan here. You say it would not create value, but, if you don't try it out then you really don't know that. I think creating a whole'nother forum for just that region wouldn't have enough members, but would add value to this one.

How much is the pay rate of a voluntary EF Mod? Is there something that could be done to sway y'all?
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Can I a symbolic groan here. You say it would not create value, but, if you don't try it out then you really don't know that. I think creating a whole'nother forum for just that region wouldn't have enough members, but would add value to this one.

How much is the pay rate of a voluntary EF Mod? Is there something that could be done to sway y'all?
I don't really even understand the point. Do you only read certain forums which meet your needs exactly? Post as many frontalier threads as you want in whichever forums best meet your needs

Out of interest, since the forum was started - there have been 34 threads dedicated to frontalier....thats in the last 6 years. Hardly a burning demand
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