Annoying trolls not banned

[Kittster]

	Quote:	Treverus
	Jesus, that sounds horrible! (Can't be me as the only thing I remember from your posts is that yellow staircase...)

The first rule about yellow staircase is that we do not talk about the yellow staircase On a more serious note, that's a thing with lawyers involved now, so - nothing more on that wretched staircase.

The point of my post was not what was written or by whom, but that the people reading your things don't have the whole picture and if they are so inclined, they may just construct their own. I have the attention span of a goldfish on shrooms, so I never remember who posted what, unless someone is REALLY repetitive with their statements. Likewise, I am amazed at how quickly other members can spot a troll account, it's as if they had that software lecturers use to spot plagiarism inbuilt into their brain. VERY impressive.

[Urs Max]

	Quote:	Kittster
	[SnipSnipSnip] Being an outright d*ck just to yank people's chains, targeting people or spreading hateful bile, misinforming people or making up stories for purposes other than general entertainment (general as in everyone understands it is not real or only very loosely based on reality, such as the tales of Uncle Bertrand), trolling - not so much. [snipSnipSnip]

This is key. But frankly aresid doesn't fit those trolling criteria as his ridiculous reference to the Human Rights should make abundantly clear. Though much less fun than DB with his silly but oh so charming mini-stories, his made it clear his not trying to be serious.

And yes, it's people's own action that make trolls stay. This has been pointed out multiple times in that thread already. So generally, why should mods interfere as long as nobody's really hurt and at least some are simply having fun? I frankly see no reason to WRT to posters such as aresid.

"ohmy" however with his "warning to newcomers" is a different kind of animal altogether as he claims to be honest, sincere, and most of all reasonably objective. I think a case for a permaban as well as deleting his thread could easily be made but then again I'm not a mod nor can I be bothered to report him more than once.

[speakeron]

	Quote:	Urs Max
	This is key. But frankly aresid doesn't fit those trolling criteria as his ridiculous reference to the Human Rights should make abundantly clear. Though much less fun than DB with his silly but oh so charming mini-stories, his made it clear his not trying to be serious.

Aresid's post in that thread was a nicely-crafted troll and a work of art in its own way. The number and type of responses spoke to its success. I think the author (whoever that may be...), was rather proud of it. Is it worse than any number of threads on where you can get your cat shaved?

	Quote:	speakeron
	Is it worse than any number of threads on where you can get your cat shaved?

Your cat will not need shaving as (you) it gets older; it will go bald anyway. But I hear it's very fashionable these days to pluck your chicken. Taking care of your pet is very important.

[curley]

	Quote:	lost_inbroad
	You'll find that addressing the issue and engage in discourse works wonders both online as well as in real life.

	Quote:	Chuff
	..... Sometime I do really wonder if even you believe the pompous and pretentious **** that spews forth from your keyboard.

Hmmm, yeah, Lib has his moments, I call it his mod mode.

You on the other hand seem to be so pompous and pretentious that you are not able to see the meaning behind the phrasing? If you did you would not "wonder if Lib believes what he wrote" as the message was simple, clear and true.
You know writing and reading is all about exchanging information? Not about phrasing and spelling? Those are side-effects?

In fact you gave a classic example of not addressing the issue, therefore discourse about something completely different (the appearance of the message instead of the message) and therefore the wonder will not work for you

So generally, when one - for example - posts a question on EF, he does that go get an answer on a subject and not to get his phrasing and spelling of the question corrected, which so many people here get instead of information. The reason for that would have to be looked at separately again .... 'don't know the answer, to cover that up I correct his spelling instead'? Or 'don't have a clue what the guy is talking about so to cover that up I make fun of his phrasing instead'?
Or of course: 'have a Reading Comprehension Learning Disability, to cover that up I pretend the writer is a show-off when phrasing things'.
In all three cases the best behaviour would probably be not to post an "answer" at all.

You're gonna tell me I went way over the top (true) and my phrasing was way too flamboyant (true) but mainly you won't understand a thing I just wrote - which proves my case. But maybe some others will

[speakeron]

	Quote:	neddy
	Your cat will not need shaving as (you) it gets older; it will go bald anyway. But I hear it's very fashionable these days to pluck your chicken. Taking care of your pet is very important.

Yea, but I don't want to see an old cat shaved. It has to be a young one with a tight, lithe, well-oiled body...

	Quote:	curley
	Hmmm, yeah, Lib has his moments, I call it his mod mode. You on the other hand seem to be so pompous and pretentious that you are not able to see the meaning behind the phrasing? If you did you would not "wonder if Lib believes what he wrote" as the message was simple, clear and true. You know writing and reading is all about exchanging information? Not about phrasing and spelling? Those are side-effects? In fact you gave a classic example of not addressing the issue, therefore discourse about something completely different (the appearance of the message instead of the message) and therefore the wonder will not work for you So generally, when one - for example - posts a question on EF, he does that go get an answer on a subject and not to get his phrasing and spelling of the question corrected, which so many people here get instead of information. The reason for that would have to be looked at separately again .... 'don't know the answer, to cover that up I correct his spelling instead'? Or 'don't have a clue what the guy is talking about so to cover that up I make fun of his phrasing instead'? Or of course: 'have a Reading Comprehension Learning Disability, to cover that up I pretend the writer is a show-off when phrasing things'. In all three cases the best behaviour would probably be not to post an "answer" at all. You're gonna tell me I went way over the top (true) and my phrasing was way too flamboyant (true) but mainly you won't understand a thing I just wrote - which proves my case. But maybe some others will

Lol, Richdog. U got pwned!

[speakeron]

I used to troll Richdog like crazy, but I've mellowed on him. Looking at some of his posts, I think he's got a good heart, but just winds people up the wrong way sometimes.

As for LiB: he bought me a coffee once, so I am forever in his debt.

[lost_inbroad]

	Quote:	speakeron
	I used to troll Richdog like crazy, but I've mellowed on him. Looking at some of his posts, I think he's got a good heart, but just winds people up the wrong way sometimes. As for LiB: he bought me a coffee once, so I am forever in his debt.

For the people wondering what he's talking about, there was a boycott Starbucks thread and me being the thoughtful contrarian that I am, decided to buy everybody Starbucks. Ah yes, the good ol' days.

Thread for reference: https://www.englishforum.ch/social-e...red-event.html

[curley]

	Quote:	lost_inbroad
	For the people wondering what he's talking about, there was a boycott Starbucks thread and me being the thoughtful contrarian that I am, decided to buy everybody Starbucks. Ah yes, the good ol' days. Thread for reference: https://www.englishforum.ch/social-e...red-event.html

So you worked for Starbucks in 2013?

Contrarians don't go to Starbucks

[lost_inbroad]

	Quote:	curley
	So you worked for Starbucks in 2013? Contrarians don't go to Starbucks

I never worked for Starbucks!

I simply invited people for a friendly cup of their choice in order to combat the much debated Starbucks ban thread.

[curley]

	Quote:	lost_inbroad
	I never worked for Starbucks! I simply invited people for a friendly cup of their choice in order to combat the much debated Starbucks ban thread.

Well, pretty good PR action ... make it appear private, publish it in a forum where you know it's gonna be stored for ever .... and ever .... and ever.
Seriously, you should have sent Starbucks a bill

[Aleydis]

Shouldn't this thread be merged with the Trump thread now?

Disruptive trolls and all...

[SOBEIT]

La La Land would be a better fit.

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	lost_inbroad
	I never worked for Starbucks!

I'm a bit surprised. I always thought they would hire anybody

[Aleydis]

	Quote:	SOBEIT
	La La Land would be a better fit.

Funny you say that. I just finished watching. Had the same feeling after watching the Birdman. It's a film about film... and.... ?

[adrianlondon]

	Quote:	speakeron
	As for LiB: he bought me a coffee once, so I am forever in his debt.

I thought it was just me Hussy.

[Urs Max]

	Quote:	speakeron
	Aresid's post in that thread was a nicely-crafted troll and a work of art in its own way. The number and type of responses spoke to its success.

I agree. The question is though why it's so successful. Is it because it's offensive or because people enjoyed the back-and-forth?

At least some express themselves having fun. Others seem to have gotten outraged or even taken offense, but not until after the umpteenth repetition. So it may be argued that it's not what's been said per se but the stubbornness and ignorance exhibited by sticking to the outlandish claims.

That, in my mind, would be the problem of those who get outraged rather than the poster - if you can't get your point thru there's simply no point in arguing or a discourse in general, so you move on to greener pastures.

[greenmount]

	Quote:	speakeron
	I used to troll Richdog like crazy, but I've mellowed on him. Looking at some of his posts, I think he's got a good heart, but just winds people up the wrong way sometimes.

So, aresid, how did you enjoy the other thread?

[speakeron]

	Quote:	greenmount
	So, aresid, how did you enjoy the other thread?

I think we could have a Spartacus/Life of Brian thing going on here.

I'm Arse Id, and so is my wife.