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Old 05.08.2020, 15:16
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Re: GDPR and EnglishForum

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With the anonymity, if your email is scrambled, and you leave your posts and assoc. username, surely that a good enough?
What am I missing here?
I think some people prefer a scorched earth policy.
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With the anonymity, if your email is scrambled, and you leave your posts and assoc. username, surely that a good enough?
What am I missing here?
Many of us have posted personal stuff too because it once felt like a community, however, I agree, it probably is good enough. Different reasons for different people, not the first time it has been asked here.
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Yes, I understand that. And I agree with the Local on a total removal if that's what a user is asking for.

The point I was trying to make is that instead of taking a rush emotional decision and then "reconsidering" it ,maybe it's better to wait for a while and see if that's what one really wants. Not an obligation for the mods, rather a self-imposed obligation if that makes any sense to you.
I think the best self-imposed obligation is to never compromize yourself data wise at the 1st place and to not present behavior that will make you flee from, later.
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Old 05.08.2020, 15:38
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I think some people prefer a scorched earth policy.
Some obviously do. But once again, this is not realistic. This idea that the internet is an outside-real-life thing is stunning.
Banning, deleting, putting people one doesn't like on ignore. With a button. What's that, the equivalent of shooting them?

I find the line "the right to be forgotten" very strange. What kind of right is that, LOL? The answer no doubt would be "yeah, but I got the right to remember you".

While GDPR is a good invention the rule still is: Think before you act. The possibilities are limited. What's done is done (as in writing posts) all one can do is delete an account like moving house, changing jobs, getting divorced - what ever.
On EF it even goes one step above reality: The posts are labelled "guest".
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I think the best self-imposed obligation is to never compromize yourself data wise at the 1st place and to not present behavior that will make you flee from, later.
Hmmm....it is the behaviour of others that makes people flee. Could we all react differently and not give a damn? I suppose we could, but then again why not delete the account entirely.

It's not the only reason perhaps. Once you don't find any fun/common grounds here or whatever, there's always that "nuke button" as someone else here has called it. I do see this option as being something positive and the reasons for which people take this decision are not for anyone else to judge.
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Hmmmmmm....it is the behaviour of others what makes people flee. Could we all react differently and not give a damn? I suppose we could, but then again why not delete the account entirely.
But if it's the behaviour/posts of others that make you flee, why have your posts deleted?
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But if it's the behaviour/posts of others that make you flee, why have your posts deleted?
Sounds like a form of taking one's ball and going home.
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Sounds like a form of taking one's ball and going home.
I guess you could put it that way....

(this is what we used to say when we were kids lol)

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But if it's the behaviour/posts of others that make you flee, why have your posts deleted?
Why not? Why having anything associated with a forum you choose to leave.

As for the rest of my post, read it again, this is discussed here as a possibility.

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It's not the only reason perhaps. Once you don't find any fun/common grounds here or whatever, there's always that "nuke button" as someone else here has called it. I do see this option as being something positive and the reasons for which people take this decision are not for anyone else to judge.

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Re: GDPR and EnglishForum

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I do see this option as being something positive and the reasons for which people take this decision are not for anyone else to judge.
Those who don't want judgement shouldn't create a scene around it. Flouncers never leave quietly. You have talked a lot about why others must have left and the reasons why EF is no longer a good place to be. But while I understand the emotional envolvement, it is hard not to see how this constant criticism spoils it for others.

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Sounds like a form of taking one's ball and going home.
Yup. Except there are thankfully many balls to have and many selfless and generous, wellwishing gameplayers.
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Those who don't want judgement shouldn't create a scene around it. Flouncers never leave quietly. You have talked a lot about why others must have left and the reasons why EF is no longer a good place to be. But while I understand the emotional envolvement, it is hard not to see how this constant criticism spoils it for others.
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This discussion was is that sub-forum that not everyone can see "Staff area" and you know it very well. And for unknown reasons was moved here....
So no, it wasn't supposed to be public, it wasn't supposed to debate reasons why how when etc, nor was supposed to spoil it for anyone else. I admit I had the same thoughts as Meloncollie, it was originally addressed somewhere else and probably wouldn't have the same number of replies or interest if it remained there, in that section of the forum.
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Re: GDPR and EnglishForum

I am glad that it got moved. If there is valuable info, it should be accessible to the community.
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I am glad that it got moved. If there is valuable info, it should be accessible to the community.
Then don't accuse people of making a scene when they had no intention.
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Then don't accuse people of making a scene when they had no intention.
I don't.

I said flouncers do.

And I have always said that the "Staff" area for selected Spam Deputies should only serve to discuss spammers. The rest should be community accessible.
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I don't.

I said flouncers do.

And I have always said that the "Staff" area for selected Spam Deputies should only serve to discuss spammers. The rest should be community accessible.
Well, since it is not yet community accessible some of us have assumed we could discuss technical possibilities over there as to avoid the thread rapidly deteriorating.
Who are these flouncers? You mean people who had enough of whatever was/is going on?

Why so much talk around a simple question after all. I get it - not possible/do-able/whatever.
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Well, since it is not yet community accessible some of us have assumed we could discuss technical possibilities..
Not only, as was this. This isn't just a technical possibility and it is info valuable for all.
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Well, since it is not yet community accessible some of us have assumed we could discuss technical possibilities over there as to avoid the thread rapidly deteriorating.
As MC says, that was never the intention of that 'private' area, which should only be used for the purposes quite clearly indicated in the thread title. If you recall there was a previous thread there which got so bad I had to close it, after several times asking everybody to stick only to the subject as defined.

These technical questions certainly do belong in the Forum Support forum, and some were specifically about GDPR, the subject of this earlier thread, which is why I moved them here. You'll note that none of the posts that were moved were discussing any individuals, so there's nothing here that should not be visible to the whole membership.
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Well, since it is not yet community accessible some of us have assumed we could discuss technical possibilities over there as to avoid the thread rapidly deteriorating.
Who are these flouncers? You mean people who had enough of whatever was/is going on?
In my understanding flouncers are people who keep threatening to leave only to to reappear in a week, or threaten to leave in order to flame others but again have no intention of leaving.
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In my understanding flouncers are people who keep threatening to leave only to to reappear in a week, or threaten to leave in order to flame others but again have no intention of leaving.
Yeah, maybe. What I get from other comments is they are people who delete their account only to ask later to have it reinstalled. Nobody is threatening anyone here as I recall. It was a simple, clear question originally. No judgement asked.

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Is there a way to not only delete an account so that posts show up as 'guest', but also to delete all a user's posts as well, invoking GDPR?

I thought I remember a discussion on this, but can't seem to find that now.
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I truly believe the "over there" should not be discussed.
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Re: GDPR and EnglishForum

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These technical questions certainly do belong in the Forum Support forum, and some were specifically about GDPR, the subject of this earlier thread, which is why I moved them here. You'll note that none of the posts that were moved were discussing any individuals, so there's nothing here that should not be visible to the whole membership.
They do belong here and the answers to them, not all the clutter and noise. Please try to be objective here. There are a number of posts which are nothing but provocative. No, nobody wanted to make a scene around flouncing here, nobody wanted to spoil it for someone else, nobody "threatened" to do anything. If people want to delete their account, which are the concrete options?
- have their user name etc deleted only
- or the content of the posts too.
If you want to keep it informative, then please do so.
For goodness sake, even the thread about pots and pans got cleared up.

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