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Old 05.02.2020, 21:22
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I thought that the whole of Australia was a penile colony?

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Old 06.02.2020, 08:36
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It was a perfectly pleasant exchange if I remember rightly, you definitely didn’t get on the wrong side of her but it was probably enough for her to remember your username.
If I recall correctly her original name/account was Plumtree. I remember only the Clocker incarnation (and subsequently her more recent/banned incarnations). I haven't been very often here when she was still Plumtree. Why did she get banned? Does anyone remember what may have caused such an offence? This disgruntled member case is rather....special.
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Old 06.02.2020, 08:59
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If I recall correctly her original name/account was Plumtree. I remember only the Clocker incarnation (and subsequently her more recent/banned incarnations). I haven't been very often here when she was still Plumtree. Why did she get banned? Does anyone remember what may have caused such an offence? This disgruntled member case is rather....special.
She didn’t like being contradicted when she posted wrong information and then started getting arsey with people and groaning/red repping them.
Same procedure as every other incarnation to be honest.

One of her favourite sayings was ‘that’s not nice’ if somebody forcefully disagreed with her.
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Old 06.02.2020, 10:29
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She didn’t like being contradicted when she posted wrong information and then started getting arsey with people and groaning/red repping them.
Same procedure as every other incarnation to be honest.

One of her favourite sayings was ‘that’s not nice’ if somebody forcefully disagreed with her.
Yes, basically clocker.
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Old 06.02.2020, 10:52
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I still very much doubt that they have committed any crime worth caring about..
Only because we believe they have failed so far.

From The Local.ch but behind a pay wall...

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Cyberpiracy/account hijacking/malware

How does it work?

Cyberpiracy involves someone taking control of your sensitive data (medical records, bank details etc.), blocking your access to it and then asking for a ransom for its return or threatening to sell this data to others.

Account hijacking involves someone taking control of your email account and writing to all your contacts pretending to be you – usually to ask for money.

Malware – an abbreviation of malicious software – is a generic term for any program or software developed specifically to damage your computer. These programs are usually sent as attachments to emails. The malware allows the sender to copy, delete, block or change all the data on the infected computer.
Criminal offence(s) under Swiss law

These actions can be subject to punishment under the following articles of the Swiss Criminal Code: Articles 143 CPS (unauthorized obtaining of data), 143bis CPS (unauthorized access to a data processing system) and 144bis CPS (damage to data).
https://www.thelocal.ch/20190502/cyb...uide-law-crime

Perhaps they should practice what they preach.
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Old 06.02.2020, 10:55
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More info regarding Swiss law regarding this matter, here...

https://iclg.com/practice-areas/cybe...ns/switzerland
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Old 06.02.2020, 11:03
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Only because we believe they have failed so far.
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Indeed. There are a lot of members who didn't log in on the forum for years, or maybe some deactivated the option to get e-mail notifications from EF (I know it was possible some time ago) in order to not bulk their e-mail account, which might be the one they currently use or not.
I also noticed sometimes I get notifications from e-mail lists I didn't participate to lately in the spam folder. So Blueangel is right, there's no way we can be 100% sure they didn't succeed so far.
IMHO this is a strong argument in favour of deleting your account once you decide not to contribute anymore. Maybe it's exaggerated, I don't know...
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Old 06.02.2020, 11:19
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Only because we believe they have failed so far.

From The Local.ch but behind a pay wall...

https://www.thelocal.ch/20190502/cyb...uide-law-crime

Perhaps they should practice what they preach.
Providers (who hold your data) like the local have a responsibility to take reasonable steps to protect your data. For example blocking login attempts after 5 failed logins. Encrypting passwords, using https.. etc.
Obviously the strength of these defenses depends on the data they hold and the resource they have to implement security.

We know this is just a free forum, hosted as a 'side job' by a newspaper. We can't expect a dedicated security team protecting us so we should also take some reasonable precaution of not storing our darkest or dearest secrets in here.

Bottom line is that anything can be breached given the motive and resource.. There's not much motive to breach EF for somebody with the resource to do it.
Therefor crime wise, there would be very little motivation for the police to fund an investigation into the breach of a low value target with little data of any meaning.

In the event of a successful breach, EF might get a fine if they didn't secure the data well enough but I doubt the cops would get involved any further than filing a report.

Websites and networks are properly attacked daily.. Only the highest profile stuff gets actually investigated. Like the ransomware of the NHS in the UK.
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Old 06.02.2020, 11:32
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Indeed. There are a lot of members who didn't log in on the forum for years, or maybe some deactivated the option to get e-mail notifications from EF (I know it was possible some time ago) in order to not bulk their e-mail account, which might be the one they currently use or not.
I also noticed sometimes I get notifications from e-mail lists I didn't participate to lately in the spam folder. So Blueangel is right, there's no way we can be 100% sure they didn't succeed so far.
IMHO this is a strong argument in favour of deleting your account once you decide not to contribute anymore. Maybe it's exaggerated, I don't know...
Indeed it's good practice to remove yourself from places you don't use.. We all sign up to hundreds of things, create user names and passwords.. Many of these places will be breached at some point.. Passwords stolen ..

And if you re-used that password on somewhere more important...

That's why resources such as 'have i been pawned' are interesting..
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Old 06.02.2020, 11:50
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We know this is just a free forum, hosted as a 'side job' by a newspaper. We can't expect a dedicated security team protecting us so we should also take some reasonable precaution of not storing our darkest or dearest secrets in here.

Bottom line is that anything can be breached given the motive and resource.. There's not much motive to breach EF for somebody with the resource to do it.
Therefor crime wise, there would be very little motivation for the police to fund an investigation into the breach of a low value target with little data of any meaning.
I fully understand and accept all of that, but it's still a repeated malicious act by (we assume) one individual. For all we know, that individual may be doing the same to other websites.

As for the information stored aspect, many of us will have our personal email addresses attached to the account, and regular users of the Items for Sale forum may also have shared their home addresses and phone numbers via pm and not deleted these pms. You know as well as I do that people unwittingly share an extraordinary amount of personal data online, and a half decent hacker with a grudge could go through this site like a dose of salts, so we know we're dealing with a rank amateur. It's the sustained malice that concerns me. We have a similar character in our family, and the unease it creates is draining.
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I fully understand and accept all of that, but it's still a repeated malicious act by (we assume) one individual. For all we know, that individual may be doing the same to other websites.
If they get the sort of response this thread has shown then yes, it's possible, as they clearly get a kick out of seeing how upset they can make people. The itch won't go away if you keep scratching it.

EF management have confirmed that (as far as they're aware) no accounts have been compromised, and they continue to monitor the situation, but it's clear to them, as it is to most of us here, that these attempts are designed to annoy, to get a reaction, so really just trolling like the culprit does when it periodically reincarnates.

So the message is the same:

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Old 06.02.2020, 13:19
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If they get the sort of response this thread has shown then yes, it's possible, as they clearly get a kick out of seeing how upset they can make people. The itch won't go away if you keep scratching it.
I'm not upset in any way, and as you will know, I've not been a subject of this to date. My concern is that I fear you might be conflating two separate issues, trolling and sustained attempted hacking.

I've done your role on a VB script forum. We had the same troll turned attempted hacker scenario for over 2yrs. I know it takes time to resolve and it's pain in the back side. We used to delete 8-40 new IDs per day from our irritant, which were largely set up overnight, so I picked up the thread and cleaned it all up on my 8am-2pm GMT shift. We couldn't work out why only certain long standing members were targetted and not others, particularly as they came from opposite ends of the political spectrum, and were of many nationalities. It was only when we had enough material to refer the matter that we got an answer.

The troll came from another website (Russian owned - I kid you not) which had no rules regarding acceptable behaviour. When our website was set up, with a policy of zero tolerance of bad language and bigotry, a lot of members migrated over, and it was those people who were the subjects of the hacking attempts. It was purely based upon rivalry. There were even threads on the original site telling people to leave our's because it was being hacked on a daily basis.

Our site owner's ethos was, he was providing a service, thus it was his responsibility to protect the people who used that sevice. That's not trolling. That's a customer service issue.
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Old 06.02.2020, 13:31
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Also, ignoring poor behaviour, whatever you want to call it, doesn't make it go away, it merely makes the perpetrator up their game.
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