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Old 06.02.2020, 21:55
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Yup .. I am really pretty amazing ..

In my opinion.
Donald, is that you?
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Old 06.02.2020, 22:04
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Donald, is that you?
No, because Trump never adds the disclaimer "in my opinion". His opinion is his reality, therefore it should be everyone else's reality. Or something like that.
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Old 06.02.2020, 23:39
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No, because Trump never adds the disclaimer "in my opinion". His opinion is his reality, therefore it should be everyone else's reality. Or something like that.
Ah! D'you mean he's a member here on EF?
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Old 07.02.2020, 02:25
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I also think it is good to spend some time analysing the reasons for the demise of the forum, although it is difficult, sadly, to imagine any active measures which could improve the situation.
With respect...and I do mean that...there have been posts about the 'demise' of this forum since before I joined, same as with every other web forum. It's a weird aspect of human nature that I've never understood.

As for this being a vehicle to bring traffic to the host, well they need since it since they put most of their articles behiind a pay wall to be honest. If I want drama, I'll watch Love Island (OMG!!! Gutted for Shaughna tonight! ) Note to self: Don't have a red bull after midnight you bloody numpty.
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Old 07.02.2020, 07:53
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Can we call ourselves the Scottish Forum, now?
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Old 07.02.2020, 08:12
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Can we call ourselves the Scottish Forum, now?
And make it more Romandie focused
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Old 07.02.2020, 08:41
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Can we call ourselves the Scottish Forum, now?
There is a Scots Forum on Facebook... I think trying to read it would make my brain hurt though
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Old 07.02.2020, 09:38
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I am genuinely confused by this. Others have said similar things. The exits were very quiet, no drama, they literally just went (some may have said private farewells etc). It's not, IMO, burning bridges (a bridge to where?); from what I know of them I doubt very much it was a gesture of any kind. Who would they need to impress?

They have simply exercised their right, under GDPR, to be forgotten. For reasons that remain, quite understandably, their own.
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OK. Firstly, the bridge I was referring to is a bridge back. That is, if things improve, the user can return with all posting history intact almost as if nothing had happened.
Secondly, on the point of drama. Yes. This has been exaggerated. Mr. Blue did tell stories about a "flounce post" from one of the dearly departed which led at least me to believe for some time that this was an exit in the style of Mr London.

True is that the right to be forgotten is a new thing which people can avail themselves of. Previously, attempts to have anything deleted here were met with a scornful rebuke. It is also so that some posters had a style where they were quite open about personal matters touching on such things as employment life and medical issues and may be genuinely pleased to lose all that data.
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Old 07.02.2020, 10:03
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True is that the right to be forgotten is a new thing which people can avail themselves of. Previously, attempts to have anything deleted here were met with a scornful rebuke. It is also so that some posters had a style where they were quite open about personal matters touching on such things as employment life and medical issues and may be genuinely pleased to lose all that data.
The zapping software is not 100%, here is a post where the quote is still from a deleted member
https://www.englishforum.ch/3142538-post66.html
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Old 07.02.2020, 11:19
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The zapping software is not 100%, here is a post where the quote is still from a deleted member
https://www.englishforum.ch/3142538-post66.html
It isn't a full zapping. It is an anonymisation. Here is the quoted post:
https://www.englishforum.ch/3142498-post65.html
The author has simply been guestated (or is it guestified?)
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Old 07.02.2020, 11:34
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It isn't a full zapping. It is an anonymisation. Here is the quoted post:
https://www.englishforum.ch/3142498-post65.html
The author has simply been guestated (or is it guestified?)
When I posted, the quote said [the actual username]

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Old 07.02.2020, 11:36
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When I posted, the quote said [the actual username]

Strange yes, saw that as well

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Old 07.02.2020, 11:57
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Strange yes, saw that as well
The delete code might be a date stamped 'crawling' piece of code, so that it deletes the user name from all posts, and from all quotes in the future. This would prevent another user from posting under the deleted user's name, but only removes the name from old quoted posts when they're 'revived'. I've seen stuff like this before.

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Old 07.02.2020, 13:35
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6 people left dramatically in one go.
No, they didn't.

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When I posted, the quote said [the actual username]
it happened with db farewell post. it could still be seen in the intro section.

He was smart, posting it there and then know that once deleted you are not indexed on new posts. only true vbulletin knowledge can provide that epic farewell.
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it happened with db farewell post. it could still be seen in the intro section.

He was smart, posting it there and then know that once deleted you are not indexed on new posts. only true vbulletin knowledge can provide that epic farewell.
... or you could.

If you can see a DB farewell post, and others have also said there was one, while yet others have said there was none, and several have said that if there had been one they would like to be able to read it but have not found it... could you please link to it here, or quote its contents, here?
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... or you could.

If you can see a DB farewell post, and others have also said there was one, while yet others have said there was none, and several have said that if there had been one they would like to be able to read it but have not found it... could you please link to it here, or quote its contents, here?
Even EditorBob has said he hasn't been able to find one. I can't see any way in which a post could have been made that was then removed beyond our, or his, visibility by the user deletion process. Mods can still see soft-deleted threads, even from subsequently removed users, so this would require some very odd behind-the-scenes activities, which I'm sure EB would be aware of.
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Old 07.02.2020, 15:16
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Even EditorBob has said he hasn't been able to find one. I can't see any way in which a post could have been made that was then removed beyond our, or his, visibility by the user deletion process. Mods can still see soft-deleted threads, even from subsequently removed users, so this would require some very odd behind-the-scenes activities, which I'm sure EB would be aware of.
You can post a post and then delete it yourself after a few minutes. DB has done this on numerous occasions in the past. It's a way of writing vitriol without getting banned.
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Even EditorBob has said he hasn't been able to find one. I can't see any way in which a post could have been made that was then removed beyond our, or his, visibility by the user deletion process.
It's odd, isn't it?

Some users have written that they have read the farewell post of DB. If there never was such a farewell post, I wonder what the motivation could be of the people who have claimed to have read such.

If, on the other hand, there was indeed one, I wonder who could have deleted or hidden it so thoroghly, and why.
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Old 07.02.2020, 15:18
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Even EditorBob has said he hasn't been able to find one. I can't see any way in which a post could have been made that was then removed beyond our, or his, visibility by the user deletion process. Mods can still see soft-deleted threads, even from subsequently removed users, so this would require some very odd behind-the-scenes activities, which I'm sure EB would be aware of.


can editor bob find the post where db comments on a similar breakup situation to a newbie?


just a thought. you can believe what you want.


maybe it is true, maybe it is a wind up
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