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Rules on posting links please

@MC, what was wrong with that link? Which rule was broken?

You've deleted RufusB's post but I don't think it was worse than TonyClifton's here Daily Mail link.
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Old 27.05.2020, 17:13
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We do not allow just a link with zero commentary.
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OK. Thanks for your explanation. Perhaps she didn't know that.
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OK. Thanks for your explanation. Perhaps she didn't know that.
No prob. It has nothing to do with the poster nor opinion.
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Old 27.05.2020, 17:31
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OK. Thanks for your explanation. Perhaps she didn't know that.
No I didn't. I'd like to see that rule please.

Musicchick, care to explain?
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Old 27.05.2020, 17:47
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Re: Boris Johnson for PM?

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No I didn't. I'd like to see that rule please.

Musicchick, care to explain?
Here is the EF rules list.

So long as moderator actions in a thread are not performed by a mod who is actively posting in that thread then there is usually no issue; such involved mods can always call in a non-involved colleague if there is something needs to be addressed.
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Here is the EF rules list.
I hadn't thought to look there (it's the Terms of Use page) for specifics, but since you've raised it, there's a couple of other rules there that may be worth mentioning, as they're perhaps more clearly stated here than elsewhere and may help remove some ambiguity.

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promote information that you know is deceptive or phony
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contain restricted or password only access pages not linked to from another accessible page or hidden pages or images;
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contain political or religious propaganda;
So intentional fake news is out, links to subscription-only news pages also, and potentially youtube or similar links to political extremists.

Should we start being a little more rigourous about these, do you think?
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So long as moderator actions in a thread are not performed by a mod who is actively posting in that thread then there is usually no issue; such involved mods can always call in a non-involved colleague if there is something needs to be addressed.
Oh, and just to point out that this is not a rule as such. so we wouldn't bother referring to the team for obvious breaches of policy, insults, spam, etc. etc.
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Old 27.05.2020, 17:17
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Where is that rule, please? Would be grateful to a link to this rule on EF.

Rufus, could you kindly repost with a commentary- thanks.
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Old 27.05.2020, 17:30
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We do not allow just a link with zero commentary.
Since when? I quoted the request. The link to the post should have been entirely clear.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...g5A1KFJZkIWjo1
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Old 27.05.2020, 17:39
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We do not allow just a link with zero commentary.
You’re going to have a busy evening deleting posts then because there are plenty of them on the forum.
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Old 27.05.2020, 17:44
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indeed- and much much more important rules have been broken re personal attacks, 'accusing' people of dropping their knickers for rich men, allegations of hysteria related to gender, etc- and by Mods, have not been deleted (I don't mind perso... but ....). So it is a bit like Cummings and co- rules apply only to the plebs, or those with 'ovaries', etc. Nonsense. Accusing all that do not agree with 'you' of hysteria, having ovaries of having no SOH is also a classic form of cyber bullying, hiding very badly behind so called humour.

Anyway, link to said rule please, from anyone if MC doesn't. Thanks.

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indeed- and much much more important rules have been broken re personal attacks, 'accusing' people of dropping their knickers for rich men, alleagation of hysteria related to gender, etc- and by Mods, have not been deleted (I don't mind perso... but ....). So it is a bit like Cummings and co- rules apply only to the plebs, or those with 'ovaries', etc. Nonsense.

Anyway, link to said rule please, from anyone if MC doesn't. Thanks.
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Old 27.05.2020, 17:41
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Re: Rules on posting links please

Omtatstat is clearly not aware of this rule as that’s what most of his posts consist of.

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Omtatstat is clearly not aware of this rule as that’s what most if his posts consist of.
Yeah. And the joke thread, music vid thread etc.

I really would like to know. I'm sure I've posted links without commentary before and not had a slapdeletion.
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Re: Rules on posting links please

Well the posting guidelines clearly suggest not to include links with no context, but it's not always so rigidly applies as it might be. It's still good netiquette, regardless of specific rules, or lack of.

As for the other member mentioned, he very often has posts/threads deleted for this reason, but some, where the title is clear enough, are left in place, and of course there may be many that we don't actually spot.

For future reference, I'd ask that anyone posting links like this should indeed give a clue as to what it is they're posting, please. Something like "here's a video of nnn talking about xxx" or similar would be perfectly acceptable.

EDIT: Yes, jokes, music videos, 'youtube of the day' etc. threads probably don't need much, if anything, added, if the thread is clearly titled in sch a way as to know what to expect.
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Well the posting guidelines clearly suggest not to include links with no context, but it's not always so rigidly applies as it might be. It's still good netiquette, regardless of specific rules, or lack of.

As for the other member mentioned, he very often has posts/threads deleted for this reason, but some, where the title is clear enough, are left in place, and of course there may be many that we don't actually spot.

For future reference, I'd ask that anyone posting links like this should indeed give a clue as to what it is they're posting, please. Something like "here's a video of nnn talking about xxx" or similar would be perfectly acceptable.
Cool. But I clearly did provide the clue - the post asking for the information I then provided.
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Cool. But I clearly did provide the clue - the post asking for the information I then provided.
Yes, it was perhaps borderline, given that you quoted the question, but it still wasn't completely clear at a glance who/what you were referring to, to anyone who wasn't following the thread. It took me several clicks just now to work my way up the thread to where the context was made clear.

Again for future reference and to avoid conflict, just ask yourself "would someone looking at this post on it's own know what I was posting about?".
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Am I understanding this correctly?

You quoted a post asking for specific information and provided a link giving that information?
In that case I don’t think it broke any rules. I guess you could have prefaced the link with ‘look here’ or something but it really wouldn’t have added anything to the post.


I know there is ‘history’ between yourself and MC and as such I don’t think she should have been moderating that discussion. She was already heavily involved in it.
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Well the posting guidelines clearly suggest not to include links with no context, but it's not always so rigidly applies as it might be. It's still good netiquette, regardless of specific rules, or lack of.

As for the other member mentioned, he very often has posts/threads deleted for this reason, but some, where the title is clear enough, are left in place, and of course there may be many that we don't actually spot.

For future reference, I'd ask that anyone posting links like this should indeed give a clue as ti what it is they're posting, please.

Agreed- however, there is a huge difference with a link posted without context, or as part of a conversation where the link was discussed and is added as part of the conversation, in the context of said converstation, as a natural follow-up. Surely?

Rufus, exactly, the context was very clear. Would you mind reposting with a comment please. Thanks.
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