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Old 03.09.2020, 14:26
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Re: Are the rules of decency on EF also applicable to pms and red rep messages?

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We do have that ability, although I personally don't bother to go around looking at people's rep. I have better things to do with my time, so I only look when reported. In this case I took a look and the offending user has now been banned.
That’s what I thought, the option is there in case of need. It would be really inappropriate in my opinion for mods to go around reading other user’s rep comments willy nilly without a valid reason for doing so.
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Old 03.09.2020, 14:29
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Re: Are the rules of decency on EF also applicable to pms and red rep messages?

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Or not - as long as it is hidden from public view- are crass and very rude insults and vague threats acceptable?
No, they shouldn't be. Report it to a mod if there's a problem. Hope you get it sorted.

All the years I've been on this forum I've never used the red button and have groaned something only once. All these functions do is provide an outlet for the passive aggressive and those too lazy to formulate a counter-argument, to those who wish to bully and exclude and possibly also to contrarians/trolls to feed off. Anything that breaks forum rules can be reported. EFS's sister forum Toytown Germany got rid of its red button years ago and is now better for it, IMO.
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Old 03.09.2020, 14:34
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Re: Are the rules of decency on EF also applicable to pms and red rep messages?

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Is that what happens?
It has done in the past. Someone sent me a particularly vile message and got banned for a month. Then didn't return at all.
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Old 03.09.2020, 14:56
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Re: Are the rules of decency on EF also applicable to pms and red rep messages?

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Why is it actually not allowed to post them?
Naming and shaming might really help in case of insults sent privately so that we all can get to know the sender a bit better.
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I agree. Naming and shaming people who send insulting posts might make them behave a little better. Mostly these people are too timid to say things like this in real life, but anonimity turns them into some sort of animals. I hope if a mod gets to read these messages, and they turn out to be that bad, the sender should be banned.
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I agree. Whoever has been threatening someone in rep should definitely be named and shamed. Totally unacceptable.
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Because someone decided a while ago that "private" means not to be published elsewhere, and therefore if you do publish private messages sent to you, you get a slap on the wrist or a ban.

Personally I think the rules is daft and cannot see the point of it.
It's pretty clear in the forum rules.

"Rules on abusive messages apply equally to private communication via Private Messages or Reputation comments. If you receive abusive messages via these channels then please report them, either by clicking the PM "Report" button, or by sending a PM to a moderator.

When reporting posts, private messages or other comments, please expand or refer to the rule that it violates. If you think a post is trolling, tell us that and why, especially if it is not immediately obvious or is a possibly obscure reference. Reporting posts brings problems to our attention and even if you think no action is being taken, we do take note of every single report.


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Any communication sent via Private Message or Reputation Comment must not be posted or quoted in any publicly viewable area without the permission of the sender.

Note that Visitor Messages posted to a user's profile are visible to anybody viewing that profile.

Reputation Comments are not publicly viewable and can be read only by the recipient and the moderator team."

And to say the rule is silly is imho - silly. Every forum/discord I've been on has exactly the same rule: private messages stay private and are only shared to the moderation/administration if they break forum rules. It's their job to decide how to deal with such posters, not you, not me, and naming and shaming will only add to the toxicity of this forum. Let the mods/admin deal with it in private and keep the forum itself clean from such behaviour. We seem to have enough disagreements as it is without adding more that can be dealt with in other ways.
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Old 03.09.2020, 15:43
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Re: Are the rules of decency on EF also applicable to pms and red rep messages?

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It has done in the past. Someone sent me a particularly vile message and got banned for a month. Then didn't return at all.
So the system works then.

Mods - please close the thread.
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Old 03.09.2020, 15:53
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So the system works then.

Mods - please close the thread.
Looks like the ban is a week in this case.
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Old 03.09.2020, 15:53
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That’s what I thought, the option is there in case of need. It would be really inappropriate in my opinion for mods to go around reading other user’s rep comments willy nilly without a valid reason for doing so.
In your opinion!
A lot of things that some people do here and probably wouldn't dare doing irl are inappropriate in my opinion too but they still happen. Now, let's hope people can refrain from unnecessary "curiosity".... I'm almost sure mods have better things to do with their time.
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Old 03.09.2020, 16:27
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In your opinion!
A lot of things that some people do here and probably wouldn't dare doing irl are inappropriate in my opinion too but they still happen. Now, let's hope people can refrain from unnecessary "curiosity".... I'm almost sure mods have better things to do with their time.

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Old 03.09.2020, 16:51
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Remember the jrspet times
We only remember them because he got found out...

I know of one mod who has definitely read my rep - given and received, and has acted differently to me on the forum since doing so.

All a bit creepy if you ask me but if that's how they want to get their kicks...
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Old 03.09.2020, 17:25
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Re: Are the rules of decency on EF also applicable to pms and red rep messages?

As I recall, when a mod I could see and read all the rep details simply by clicking on the username.

It‘s the reason I stopped being a mod — I couldn’t keep up with all the comments...
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Old 03.09.2020, 18:44
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Remember the jrspet times
I have missed that drama.

I remember Economisto......

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We only remember them because he got found out...

I know of one mod who has definitely read my rep - given and received, and has acted differently to me on the forum since doing so.

All a bit creepy if you ask me but if that's how they want to get their kicks...
Stalker gonna stalk.
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Old 03.09.2020, 18:56
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Re: Are the rules of decency on EF also applicable to pms and red rep messages?

Is it decent to talk about PMS?

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Old 03.09.2020, 19:11
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Is it decent to talk about PMS?

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Old 03.09.2020, 19:51
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Want me to revive the menopause thread? 😀
I got called out on Facebook by an ex EF member since rejoined linking something from a group 'menopause chicks' , my wife aged 59 had asked me to do some research
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Old 03.09.2020, 22:24
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All the years I've been on this forum I've never used the red button and have groaned something only once. All these functions do is provide an outlet for the passive aggressive and those too lazy to formulate a counter-argument, to those who wish to bully and exclude and possibly also to contrarians/trolls to feed off.
Nope. Groan is my second to last resort when I think someone's comment is so off it doesn't dignify a reply. Red rep is when it was just such a total smeghead comment they should just go away. You'll note I've disagreed with you but not groaned or red-blobbed you.

Don't judge everyone by your standards.

Of the last two red-blobs I've received, the latest I view as a badge of honour from someone who is incapable of understanding a lucid, logical argument, and the other one is from someone I regard highly who totally and utterly missed the joke. I cherish both red blobs.
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