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Old 07.12.2020, 18:11
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Which all supports my theory that there is a technical problem with the software dying slowly.
Until you look at who has been "punished" and to what degree, and who hasn't... and the number of changes that have been made to permissions and rights...
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Old 07.12.2020, 18:12
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How come those who are normally mods still have their little titles by their names? "Moderately smart" .. "Moderately Drunk" etc..

That function is only available to those whom the forum software classes as being a mod, no?

So if a software change was done it was more complex than just box ticking.?
Cause they didn't smarten or sober up in this short time yet?
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How come those who are normally mods still have their little titles by their names? "Moderately smart" .. "Moderately Drunk" etc..
No, you can add that yourself
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Old 07.12.2020, 18:15
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Which all supports my theory that there is a technical problem with the software dying slowly.
It would be a very selective technical problem which seems pretty unlikely.
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If this is affecting multiple mods, isn't it at the stage where emergency action should be taken?
It's almost like....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9MiS9tn_r4
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Blimey- admin this am, and snow shoeing in winter wonderland and come back to this. In cre di ba ble!
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Old 07.12.2020, 18:30
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proportionality. if your child said something similar, would you reprimand the child, or erase all that they said and kick them out of the house?
Proportionality?

How can you compare an anonymous EF member with your child, you have a weird idea of family relationships.

I would certainly ban a neighbour if the circumstances warranted.
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Did he? Good, I thought I failed. I zapped him for referring to one of our esteemed moderators as "Music Bitch".
It seems that we're still in the Spam Deputies group, which grants the OTBC permission, but I'm pretty sure that when I checked first thing this morning I was not in that group either.

Which, unless I'm mistaken, means that whoever made the changes was still actively doing so at the time I started this thread, which somehow makes it even worse that they've not made any comment about it.
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How come those who are normally mods still have their little titles by their names? "Moderately smart" .. "Moderately Drunk" etc..

That function is only available to those whom the forum software classes as being a mod, no?
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No, you can add that yourself
No, they can't. It's a permission on the user, independent from the group membership, but granted to mods as part of the 'promotion' process. Once you've got the permission you can change the name, losing the mod membership may or may not rescind the permission (I can't see permissions any more) but it wouldn't automatically change the title.
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Please do not stimulate st2lemans, he is already overexcited.

Please do not use "stimulate" and "st2lemans" in the same sentence. I have a sensitive disposition.

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If this really is the case, I suspect there will be a mass exodus out of this forum with only the trolls and poor unsuspecting newbies looking for help left. Sad...
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Has anyone in this 11 page thread actually bothered to contact Editor Bob/The Local? Since we don't know who did this at the very least the ex-mods involved should contact them to find out exactly what is going on. The least they are owed is an explanation of why bans were reversed and they demoted without notification/warning.
Several people have contacted EB AFAIK. I've not had a response.


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Given how little they contribute to the moderation on here wouldn’t it make more sense to drop them and appoint others who are available to actually moderate?

It seems to me that LiB used to drop in from time to time very conveniently when another mod had got into strife (again), throw his weight about a bit and usually make things worse than they already were due to him not being in the loop regarding the back story.

100% this.


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Why?

So if I refer to you as "Rugby Bitch" I'll get zapped?

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It would be a very selective technical problem which seems pretty unlikely.
Very unlikely. The silence from certain quarters speaks volumes.


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It seems that we're still in the Spam Deputies group, which grants the OTBC permission, but I'm pretty sure that when I checked first thing this morning I was not in that group either.

Which, unless I'm mistaken, means that whoever made the changes was still actively doing so at the time I started this thread, which somehow makes it even worse that they've not made any comment about it.




No, they can't. It's a permission on the user, independent from the group membership, but granted to mods as part of the 'promotion' process. Once you've got the permission you can change the name, losing the mod membership may or may not rescind the permission (I can't see permissions any more) but it wouldn't automatically change the title.
Thanks for info. In that case this situation is indeed troubling and feels very personal.
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Old 07.12.2020, 19:17
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It seems that we're still in the Spam Deputies group, which grants the OTBC permission, but I'm pretty sure that when I checked first thing this morning I was not in that group either.
Just checked and you're still showing in spam deputies

Edit...I also see mirfield as a mod. Thought he was supposed to have removed/resigned?

2nd edit....if "a" certain mod did all this, can't one of the others change it back again? Of course if EB did it...or has the mod powers caponisation taken that power away?

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Old 07.12.2020, 19:24
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I can't even keep up with all the craziness in this place. It's like watching an episode of Jerry Springer on fast-forward... while on LSD.
enjoy the trip!
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Edit...I also see mirfield as a mod. Thought he was supposed to have removed/resigned?
As explained by 22Y earlier, he's still in the group but many of his permissions have been removed.
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2nd edit....if "a" certain mod did all this, can't one of the others change it back again? Of course if EB did it...
They were unable to see who had done the change, so it looks like they've had some powers removed as well, almost as if someone had planned this to be unattributable...

Truth will out eventually, I hope.
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Old 07.12.2020, 19:37
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2nd edit....if "a" certain mod did all this, can't one of the others change it back again? Of course if EB did it...
I am no longer able to do that. That "power" was taken away.....
But then I´d try to discuss this first with the others on the mod team before acting.
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Old 07.12.2020, 19:42
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Has it all been sorted out yet ?
I had a quick look and the moderator list does appear to have been pruned somewhat but, as consolation, those affected appear to retain the much coveted Spam Deputy role: https://www.englishforum.ch/showgroups.php
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Nothing has been sorted out, nothing at all.
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Old 07.12.2020, 19:47
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Proportionality?

How can you compare an anonymous EF member with your child, you have a weird idea of family relationships.

I would certainly ban a neighbour if the circumstances warranted.
the child element was an analogy to appeal to try to bring a familiar context where the reader might recognise having to apply some sense of proportionality.

here's another one to help you: your child calls another teacher a bitch. they permanently ban the child from the school. fair and proportionate? obviously not. there are less severse measures more suited to the offence. clear now?
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well, one 'child' told his teacher (me) 'Move bitch or I'll headbutt you' - he was indeed suspended (last straw, other insults were aimed at others, not me).
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Nothing has been sorted out, nothing at all.
That fact sort of hints at Editor Bob...
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That fact sort of hints at Editor Bob...
If that’s the case it would be a rather bizarre way to treat the mods.
He expects them to practically run the show and keep it in order but he makes massive changes and doesn’t even have the courtesy to inform them. Very bizarre way to behave.
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