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You exhibit the typical female victim mentality with that.
Ahh I see Urs tbe forums premier mysoginist is back to his old woman hating tricks.

I'd be curious to know the back story that made him so bitter against the fairer sex, although I am guessing it involves a lot of unluckiness in love combined with a liberal sprinkling of rejection.
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I have read some of the posts today but let's be honest, 341 posts or so are a lot to get through...lol

Coffee, wine, aperitif and then some!

My thoughts... This is a public forum and as such, discussion and dissent should be welcomed and encouraged. If you don't agree with others' viewpoints, feel free to ignore them.

As for me, I have learned a great deal by reading links that others have provided - regardless of where they fall on the left/right spectrum. This is an "open" forum after all and all opinions should be available for those on this forum to read and make their own opinions.

Therein lies the caveat... I believe it is not up to Mods to lead us to how we should interpret others' posts. I believe most here are intelligent enough to surmise which posts are worthy of our attention.

In so far as a poster is rude, derisive, or has mal intent, then that poster should be sanctioned.

I am not sure Tony C or V qualify in this respect or deserve to be labeled as "trolls" or banned for that matter. I think both try and back up their views (even if I disagree with their opinion/sources).

At the end of the day, I have a real issue with "Cancel Culture" and people being dismissed because of their opinions. Freedom of speech is a right and this is a public forum.

The funny thing is...I have learned a lot from people on the forum whose stance I initially disagreed with. Debate, discussion, and dissension... All great on a public forum. I don't expect people to agree with me but I do respect their opinion if they back it up - even from sources I have not considered. Just my thoughts...
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Old 08.12.2020, 07:30
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Some users are mods and some are not.
The alphabetical list of the current mods is here: https://www.englishforum.ch/showgroups.php
There are 6: 3Wishes, Castro, lost inbroad, Mirfield, MusicChick, roegner.

All mods are not equal.
Mirfield has fewer superpowers than other mods, having laid some of them down upon leaving Switzerland, some time ago.

Up until yesterday, there used to be 2 more mods: 22yards and Ace1.
They both have been blocked/demoted, and various of their superpowers stripped.
Roegner is still a mod, but has also had some of her superpowers downgraded.
22yards, Ace1 and roegner did not receive and notification of this going to happen to them, and they do not know who did it. It shocked them.

Having tried various things, Ace1 started this thread, to sound the alarm, and to be able to communicate, again, since he suddenly couldn't even send or receive PMs. Since then, however, Ace1 found out that non-mods have a much smaller PM inbox allocation than mods, which is why, when he lost his mod status, his inbox was suddenly full. He's now cleaned up his [much smaller] inbox, and can once again at least send and receive PM.

There has been considerable speculation about what might be going on and why, and whodunnit, for example: Editor Bob, another mod, a hacker(s), or worn-out, creaking software.

This whole matter was preceded by some users, of whom Tony Clifton was one, having received a permanent ban.
Tony Clifton, however, wrote to Editor Bob who lifted the ban and re-instated his profile, pretty much immediately.

Some people think that this banning, and others, or the lack thereof in some cases, is a too heavy-handed or too lax, as the case may be, a use of the mod powers.

Many people are annoyed, some of those remarking that things to do with modding and/or in the forum in general have been rumbling in trouble for some time, and some think that there should at least be some offical statement, by the mods or by Editor Bob, that the matter is being attended to, or some explanation given. Others say that people take the Forum too seriously or spend too much time here, and thereby take the time, themselves, to post along those lines. Several called for better behaviour, in general, or specifically. Others said that if a user's posts bothered one, one could simply add them to one's "ignore" list [a function that is not possible towards a mod].

Some of 22yards, Ace1 and roegner, and several other users, have written to Editor Bob, variously to ask what is going on, and who it was who cut the superpowers and why, and for them to be re-instated.
Editor Bob has not replied, it seems, to anyone who has enquired about this downgrading.

Lost inbroad has posted briefly to say he does not know what is going on.

Neither 3Wishes nor MusicChick has posted about this, but then, neither of them has been active on the forum since yesterday. This leads to the suspicion that they might each secretly have a Real Life.
Interesting because when I looked at that list yesterday evening, 3Wishes wasn't listed as a mod, though was a spam deputy.
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Interesting because when I looked at that list yesterday evening, 3Wishes wasn't listed as a mod, though was a spam deputy.
Wasn't this supposed to be discussed with the mods first? Even if someone complained, be that another mod, or banned users, I think whoever decides these sort of things should have had the decency to announce them privately about their decisions.

It is curious that when a lot of members have complained about a certain mod's skills and bullying, nothing has happened, no decisions were made by EB or The Local or whoever is in charge here because I tend to me more and more suspicious about the purposes of this site. I have my own explanations and it seems I was right all along...
It was said that EB has "looked into the matter" and decided that said mod's contribution weighted more than her faults. Two disgruntled users have been banned, allegedly without serious reasons, and all of a sudden two or more mods go without any warning or explanation? Seriously?


Perhaps the owners of the site ought to be less selective with their appreciation and respect towards the users they choose to listen to and to the mods that have contributed here over such a long time. Shame, really. Double standards.
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Old 08.12.2020, 09:00
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Shame, really. Double standards.
It's quite amusing to see you rant about double standards when you have exhibited them on countless occasions in various threads. Yes, there are double standards: people tend to fall into groups and tend to associate with certain people stronger than with others. Mods are people thus mods have much stronger feelings towards some members. It's funny you constantly complain about a certain mod but you don't realize that you and your friend have been given a free ride on multiple occasions by the two mods who were demoted now.

Assuming this is not a mistake, I personally will miss Ace1 who although banned me when i wasn't the offending party at least showed decency in the exchange after. I will not miss 22 Yards who banned me for posting a groan on his post and later in the day disagreeing with him on a private exchange. He should never been mod on the first place. So in average, it's not a bad move
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Old 08.12.2020, 09:15
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It's quite amusing to see you rant about double standards when you have exhibited them on countless occasions in various threads. Yes, there are double standards: people tend to fall into groups and tend to associate with certain people stronger than with others. Mods are people thus mods have much stronger feelings towards some members. It's funny you constantly complain about a certain mod but you don't realize that you and your friend have been given a free ride on multiple occasions by the two mods who were demoted now.

Assuming this is not a mistake, I personally will miss Ace1 who although banned me when i wasn't the offending party at least showed decency in the exchange after. I will not miss 22 Yards who banned me for posting a groan on his post and later in the day disagreeing with him on a private exchange. He should never been mod on the first place. So in average, it's not a bad move
It is called having an opinion, really. I can't agree with not wearing a mask for instance and I don't have to agree with TC or whoever had that agenda. So you point a finger in my direction and are oblivious of your attacks on other users? I was given a ride? Are you freaking serious? What about you, now, then?

Yes, I know your opinions about certain mods and I didn't comment too much on that, as you seem to do, over and over, with other people here. You can't get over 22 yards' mortal sins.

You started a thread about that if I remember correctly and I am the one who complains about a certain mod? Lol.
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Old 08.12.2020, 09:20
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Shame, really. Double standards.
I assume you were talking about MC amongst others? I have not been here long enough to know what the deal is with MC and some of you. I disagree with half the things MC says but I have not had any direct run-ins with her.

Now my questions to you is, is it unfair and double standard only when people you like or agree with get banned/demoted? Ace1 clearly demonstrated similar traits that you accused MC of. Yet, I don't see you complain about that. Is that because he bans people you don't like? I have seen Chuff calling people names and making personal attacks multiple times. His posts are left intact while other people get banned for less. I did not see you say "double standards" then, why?

This is my problem with some of you snowflakes! Too partisan and too blinded by your ideology! If the accusations against MC are same as what I have observed about Ace1, then in my view both are wrong and not objective enough!

For the record I did not have any real runs ins with Ace1 or any Mods in general, I just don't like when anyone gets permanently banned for having different POV. I don't even agree with 90% of the things Tony, V_ etc say.

Btw, when I joined I was accused of being a Troll too because I don't think exactly like the "IN" crowd
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Old 08.12.2020, 09:22
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It is called having an opinion, really. I can't agree with not wearing a mask for instance and I don't have to agree with TC or whoever had that agenda
I understand that the Covid thread is the big divider on this forum these days and only if you were able to see gray, not only black and white it could have been a much more civil discussion. And why do you bring wearing a mask in an argument with me? You're confusing me with someone.
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Old 08.12.2020, 09:23
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@gaburko,

Here you are

https://www.englishforum.ch/forum-su...-mod-post.html

You don't seem like the type who doesn't make a huge deal out of other people's misdemeanours.

Yes, if one is constantly attacked one might decide to respond one way or another. If that's being "snowflake" then so are you, so are the others/everyone here.
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Old 08.12.2020, 09:27
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Yes, if one is constantly attacked one might decide to respond one way or another. If that's being "snowflake" then so are you, so are the others/everyone here.
Simples really. Have you been banned from the forum by MC? No. Have I been banned from the forum from your Mod friends on multiple occasions? Yes. Your post is irrelevant.

p.s. but I do appreciate your interest in my humble persona that you had to dig a post from 2016 to prove your point. Isn't this what your friend was energetically complaining about and you supported about being creepy and bringing stuff from the past? Wasn't this a reason to ask for the ban even in this thread again of a certain member? Do you see the double standard YOU show now?
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It is called having an opinion, really. I can't agree with not wearing a mask for instance and I don't have to agree with TC or whoever had that agenda. So you point a finger in my direction and are oblivious of your attacks on other users? I was given a ride? Are you freaking serious? What about you, now, then?

Yes, I know your opinions about certain mods and I didn't comment too much on that, as you seem to do, over and over, with other people here. You can't get over 22 yards' mortal sins.

You started a thread about that if I remember correctly and I am the one who complains about a certain mod? Lol.
I always enjoy watching garbuko meltdowns, he really works himself up into a froth-mouthed frenzy, insults everyone like crazy and then plays the victim about an hour later. Essential viewing.
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Simples really. Have you been banned from the forum by MC? No. Have I been banned from the forum from your Mod friends on multiple occasions? Yes. Your post is irrelevant.
Now that would have been absurd and she knows it very well. Perhaps you ought to look into your own behavioural pattern here because you usually write in this aggressive tone and then cry murder.
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V__, you are the only one who thanked my Hitler EF video. Wasted 15mins of my time in the middle of a deadline. Either it was not funny or you gave it kiss of death by being the first one to thank it. You are really loved around here
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The silence from EB/Admins has now gone on so long I am beginning to suspect it is a part of a deliberate policy. Actions taken, now sit out the inevitable storm until we all get bored and move on to something else. Ultimately I doubt if more than a small handful of us will hit the self-destruct button and the forum will largely be as profitable as before.
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Just to let you all know that I still did not get a reply to my message asking to learn what happened.
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I always enjoy watching garbuko meltdowns, he really works himself up into a froth-mouthed frenzy, insults everyone like crazy and then plays the victim about an hour later. Essential viewing.
The personal attacks you throw around would have been amusing if you at least used a different word choice every once in a while, but it's copy-paste all the time. Try better next time, show is you can be at least semi-intelligent!

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Perhaps you ought to look into your own behavioural pattern here because you usually write in this aggressive tone and then cry murder.
You just liked Chuffs personal attack and then asked me to look into my own behavior. See your double standards TWICE on the same page now?
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You just liked Chuffs personal attack and then asked me to look into my own behavior. See your double standards TWICE on the same page now?
You two should get a room, really.
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As is always the way with forum politics like, people threaten to leave but 99.9% don't because there is simply no replacement for EF; that's a fact. People either stay and deal with the bugbears or leave and cut themselves off from the forum. Or, they can of course create a new account and start from fresh (and hope no-one notices).
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As is always the way with forum politics like, people threaten to leave but 99.9% don't because there is simply no replacement for EF; that's a fact. People either stay and deal with the bugbears or leave and cut themselves off from the forum. Or, they can of course create a new account and start from fresh (and hope no-one notices).
Not a solution - quite a lot of reincarnations and they seem to end up in the same place i.e. either self-wiping or being banned.
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You two should get a room, really.
So you can be creepy through the peephole?
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