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At least four mods were involved in the discussion over the course of 2 days, and all of us agreed. One was notable by their absence from said discussion, despite being online on and off throughout that period.

That first post was not attempting to share the ins and outs of the discussion, just that the two of us have apparently kicked out.
Ok then that clarifies things, thanks. I'll just grab my popcorn and wait for the inevitable conclusion.
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Old 07.12.2020, 13:20
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At least four mods were involved in the discussion over the course of 2 days, and all of us agreed. One was notable by their absence from said discussion, despite being online on and off throughout that period.
I don't think it was a Mod, despite differences in opinion I believe we all abide by the general forum rules. My guess it was a hack or action from up high, either way I want to see you two re-instated or there will be three vacancies in the mod team.
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Old 07.12.2020, 13:20
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I don't think it was a Mod, despite differences in opinion I believe we all abide by the general forum rules. My guess it was a hack or action from up high, either way I want to see you two re-instated or there will be three vacancies in the mod team.
Probably 4 or more
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Yes, it’s called freedom of speech!

It is up to those with access to what they deem as REAL news to counter absurd statements, not simply ban those they don’t agree with...
Yes, and we must also remember what the original intent and value of this forum is: to provide a place for those who are not originally from Switzerland to have access to knowledge, build new connections and have a bit of a natter. At least that is what my understanding was and what makes this forum valuable.

It is also my observation that the rise of the "issue posters" and "non-conformists" coincided with the tone becoming more hostile overall. While one may expect a functioning adult to be able to compartmentalise, that is not what happens in reality. If you have the misfortune to read a post by someone who is selfish and divisive, it affects your thinking, even if in a small way. Then you may read a post by someone who is simply not bright enough to use Google or the search function - will you be kinder or less kind in your response than you would be without reading that other post?

The other thing I noticed is that there are some individuals that simply crave attention and a response. Not sure what they are missing in real life, but it is very evident. If you do as many suggest, i.e. just ignore the nonsense and veiled insults in their usual haunts, they start wandering over into other threads.

Ultimately, the value of a person's contributions should be factored into whether they should be given the "freedom of speech" that you posit. If someone is clearly only here to rant about conspiracy theories, incite doubt and one-up themselves with irrelevant anecdotes, then I would question the merit of having them here. If this is just an occasional occurrence and balanced with delivering an at least equal amount of helpful information pertinent to the real world, then I would view the situation differently. A meritocratic approach rather than the current nepotism.
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I don't think it was a Mod, despite differences in opinion I believe we all abide by the general forum rules. My guess it was a hack or action from up high, either way I want to see you two re-instated or there will be three vacancies in the mod team.
thanks castro. there is too much speculation here. hope you can update us again,


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Probably 4 or more
being a mod is a thankless job - would be a shame if you and castro would leave the mod team due to this incident. let's hope it can be sorted out. don't jump ship yet!
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I don't think it was a Mod, despite differences in opinion I believe we all abide by the general forum rules. My guess it was a hack or action from up high, either way I want to see you two re-instated or there will be three vacancies in the mod team.
A new mod team certainly will be a great boost for EF. Especially after the behavior of a mod or two lately.

People posting content, that is what matters for a forum, not the few of you thinking I'm a God - mod

The current toxic atmosphere was created by few of the mods unfortunately.
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A new mod team certainly will be a great boost for EF. Especially after the behavior of a mod or two lately.

People posting content, that is what matters for a forum, not the few of you thinking I'm a God - mod

The current toxic atmosphere was created by few of the mods unfortunately.
I suspect we do not agree which mods are the toxic ones.
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Old 07.12.2020, 13:40
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Yes, it’s called freedom of speech!

It is up to those with access to what they deem as REAL news to counter absurd statements, not simply ban those they don’t agree with...
You don’t have a right to free speech or democratic processes on a privately owned resource. You have the right to walk away, an obligation to report criminal activity or take legal action if you have suffered a loss.
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A new mod team certainly will be a great boost for EF. Especially after the behavior of a mod or two lately.

People posting content, that is what matters for a forum, not the few of you thinking I'm a God - mod
It's not about people just posting any old content, it's about posting content relevant to the forums aims and intentions. You spending half of your day, every day, trying to convince people of all of your whackjob and poorly researched COVID misinformation and conspiracies is about as far away from good and valuable content as you can get and is distracting from actual constructive and realistic discussion on the topic.
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Old 07.12.2020, 13:44
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Re: Mod coup

This is the EF version of House Of Cards Love it!

And no, some of the mods here are way too trigger-happy and hand out bans just because they disagree with a person. I've been banned twice and I am sure more will follow
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Old 07.12.2020, 13:45
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Re: Mod coup

I think it should be clear,

by V__ And tonyclifton not saying who told them they were unbanned or who unbanned them are abetting whomever did this.

So whenever they point fingers at other mods or members, keep that in mind.
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Old 07.12.2020, 13:48
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Re: Mod coup

There's an awful lot of accusations flying around the place. Maybe we should all calm down until this has been looked into.
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There's an awful lot of accusations flying around the place. Maybe we should all calm down until this has been looked into.
That doesn't sound like much fun
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Old 07.12.2020, 13:50
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People take internet groups FAR too seriously.

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Ok then that clarifies things, thanks. I'll just grab my popcorn and wait for the inevitable conclusion.
I've done the same. Enjoying this!
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I think it should be clear,

by V__ And tonyclifton not saying who told them they were unbanned or who unbanned them are abetting whomever did this.
I'm not sure they can see who 'unbanned' them. Not all actions automatically generate a notification - simply moving someone from one primary usergroup to another one, which is what's apparently happened to 22y and me, does not.

Normally when someone is banned they're done so by using a specific function, that also prompts for a ban reason and, I think, sends a notification via email (not sure of the latter, TBH, but some people I've banned seem to know that it was me wot dun it) but changing them to be members of the 'banned users' group does not.
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I've done the same. Enjoying this!
I've got a kitchen delivery about to arrive, so will be out for a while too...
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How do you know what a poster believes to be true? Mistec Meg would be proud of you.
Mystic, dear, the word is mystic.

I expected you or someone in your little band of obstinates to zero in on this. Do I know what others are thinking? No. In fact, I am glad that I don't, because I'm sure it would only make me feel worse.

That does not change the fact that telling people not to wear masks and saying you won't wear one yourself is currently equivalent to promoting illegal activities and physical harm to individuals or a group. Using certain types of sources also falls under the political propaganda provision, as they are known to be problematic and it is the responsibility of the user to check what they are actually posting.

Furthermore, the fervour with which some people want to convince others of their, shall we say "niche", views, despite being presented with peer-reviewed counterarguments, well... it's odd. They are also doing a terrible job at representing their side, as I would find being associated with people who argue so clumsily and unconvincingly rather embarrassing.

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I think it should be clear,

by V__ And tonyclifton not saying who told them they were unbanned or who unbanned them are abetting whomever did this.

So whenever they point fingers at other mods or members, keep that in mind.
Yeah. Very sus. *presses emergency meeting button*
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I'm not sure they can see who 'unbanned' them. Not all actions automatically generate a notification - simply moving someone from one primary usergroup to another one, which is what's apparently happened to 22y and me, does not.

Normally when someone is banned they're done so by using a specific function, that also prompts for a ban reason and, I think, sends a notification via email (not sure of the latter, TBH, but some people I've banned seem to know that it was me wot dun it) but changing them to be members of the 'banned users' group does not.
how many users do you think just casually relog in to their account after banned? they didn't just luck into their unban.
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I think it should be clear,

by V__ And tonyclifton not saying who told them they were unbanned or who unbanned them are abetting whomever did this.

So whenever they point fingers at other mods or members, keep that in mind.
You probably didn't read very carefully as TonyClifton DID explain who unbanned him. So yes, your accusations are just fun conspiracy theories. Have more? It's fun!
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