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Old 12.06.2021, 11:24
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I honestly couldn’t care less if we have mods or not. I don’t think I ever posted anything that needed moderating, and if someone else’s posts sistematically rub me the wrong way, I’ll either ignore the post, or set the user to ignore (so I don’t accidentally read their stupidity).

I understand the role of mods, but I think I may be able to live without the role just fine. This is the second time there’s a big issue around mod rights in a few months? And EF continues to survive. And the owners continue to not care. And the world keeps spinning.
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Old 12.06.2021, 11:28
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Or maybe the price to pay for posting funny stuff, jokes, sarcasm and the like should be useful and informative information in the same post.

For balance, like.
Or maybe, the ridiculous and hillarious posts actually make the serious requests visible and many more people bother answering OP with some good stuff.

The humor policing requests - come a few times a year. I understand it. But EF will never be a databank of dry facts or emergency troubleshooting. Thankfully.

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Old 12.06.2021, 11:45
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One thing which I think could do with a little more moderation is the off-topic postings on some very useful threads, where some random maybe amusing comment derails the whole thing.

I'm sure a lot of newbies are stunned when they ask a decent question, get some helpful answers, and come back a few days later to find their thread is talking about what pension fund they should invest their money in if they didn't do what they were asking about. (Keeping to the FMF theme )

And I'm definitely guilty of this as well

Maybe a generic "Threadicide" thread in Off-Topic where this stuff could be moved. I could imagine the segues could end up quite amusing as well.
When I first joined WF EF the modding was much harder and such random comments were stamped on. Today modding is much lighter but people still complain.

There is no pleasing some people.
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Old 12.06.2021, 12:15
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Old 12.06.2021, 12:54
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This is the second time there’s a big issue around mod rights in a few months? And EF continues to survive. And the owners continue to not care. And the world keeps spinning.
Yes, The Local keeps getting traffic and that is, after all, their purpose in having the forum at all. The owners do care - about the money. They're a business, that's all. Within that, The Local has zero motivation whatsoever, whether through Editor Bob or anyone else, to help improve the climate here, by upgrading the level of implementation of the netiquette. They don't need it to be a nice place; it can be horrible as hell as long as it brings pennies rolling in. Indeed, each time there's trouble and trolling, hurt and dispute, and each time that leads to yet another round of a big issue about the mods, The Local simply gets more clicks.

Naturally, any user's assessment of the need for mods at all, and if so, of the mod-worthiness of any other user is a matter of personal opinion based on those mods' behaviour on the forum. That's as far as the users are concerned.

The Local, however, makes decisions based upon their income. Decisions to preposterously rudely and abruptly dismiss mods who were doing good work, or to leave mods in place or to name new mods who are deemed (by some) to be good or to be troublesome, are not about making the forum a useful place. Neglect to change what has long been overdue even when many have appealed to them to fix things, and then making sudden changes to the mod team without consulting those mods, and without informing the users, are just more methods of generating traffic, that's all.

Many, many users have left EF because they no longer wanted to put up with the ongoing nastiness here, by some general users and by some mods. While that is very sad for those who cared about the supportive networks that were built, the loss of those members doesn't touch The Local.

The Local would need to fear a loss, and to consider closing the Forum, only if it stopped sending them income. That seems unlikely, since there are enough people here making helpful posts. And plenty new traffic can easily be generated, over and over again, just by introduing new discussions about the mod team. Kerching!
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Old 12.06.2021, 15:53
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For the owners of this forum, the mods are what one might call useful idiots. The rest of the users are just idiots.
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For the owners of this forum, the mods are what one might call useful idiots. The rest of the users are just idiots.
For the owners, the conflicts about the mods are useful. The mods and the non-mods alike are just instruments of income-generation.
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Old 12.06.2021, 15:57
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Many, many users have left EF because they no longer wanted to put up with the ongoing nastiness here, by some general users and by some mods.
Many have left, but many who left have also returned. Including some who swore they never would.

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The Local would need to fear a loss, and to consider closing the Forum, only if it stopped sending them income. That seems unlikely, since there are enough people here making helpful posts. And plenty new traffic can easily be generated, over and over again, just by introduing new discussions about the mod team. Kerching!
If The Local was interested in truth and honesty they would put more effort into double-checking the quality of their own articles. Maybe they don't make as may bloopers as they used to but they could still do better.

It's not totally clear to me what they really do or what they hope to achieve. But this forum is definitely not a central part of that strategy.

IMHO income from clicks is often overestimated. You need to be a Facebook to really make worthwhile money on the tiny amounts every click is worth.

I don't think EF is a money spinner. If it was we would be running on a more modern bulletin software for example. Compare this forum to the other stuff by The Local and there is a world of difference in presentation and moving with the times. Maybe a long time ago there was money in the EF but I think the only reason it's still running is that nobody in The Local's management has yet got sufficiently annoyed about it.
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Old 12.06.2021, 16:03
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Many have left, but many who left have also returned. Including some who swore they never would.

If The Local was interested in truth and honesty they would put more effort into double-checking the quality of their own articles. Maybe they don't make as may bloopers as they used to but they could still do better.

It's not totally clear to me what they really do or what they hope to achieve. But this forum is definitely not a central part of that strategy.

IMHO income from clicks is often overestimated. You need to be a Facebook to really make worthwhile money on the tiny amounts every click is worth.

I don't think EF is a money spinner. If it was we would be running on a more modern bulletin software for example. Compare this forum to the other stuff by The Local and there is a world of difference in presentation and moving with the times. Maybe a long time ago there was money in the EF but I think the only reason it's still running is that nobody in The Local's management has yet got sufficiently annoyed about it.
"Including some who swore they never would." & including some who were permanently banned.
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You are as narcissist as they come Many of the mods here have abused their position of power many times, if we are being truly objective and honest. You yourself benefited greatly at the expense of others.

Even if a twit like you became a mod one day, I still won't be bleating like a goat, the way you are

Anyway I am headed out with my goats in a bit to enjoy the weather. A handsome and dashing ladies man like you should be out too, instead of moaning
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Old 12.06.2021, 17:34
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Many have left, but many who left have also returned. Including some who swore they never would.



If The Local was interested in truth and honesty they would put more effort into double-checking the quality of their own articles. Maybe they don't make as may bloopers as they used to but they could still do better.

It's not totally clear to me what they really do or what they hope to achieve. But this forum is definitely not a central part of that strategy.

IMHO income from clicks is often overestimated. You need to be a Facebook to really make worthwhile money on the tiny amounts every click is worth.

I don't think EF is a money spinner. If it was we would be running on a more modern bulletin software for example. Compare this forum to the other stuff by The Local and there is a world of difference in presentation and moving with the times. Maybe a long time ago there was money in the EF but I think the only reason it's still running is that nobody in The Local's management has yet got sufficiently annoyed about it.
Indeed. This probably ok meant but at the end negative talk of "they are all after our money" is really misguided. It is our community and we need to preserve it. Takes no cash nor special wit to navigate our internet and build our community as a platform for all civilly expressed opinions and for different needs of expats and locals.

I know I sound very ecumenical, but there..

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Old 12.06.2021, 17:36
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Even if a twit like you became a mod one day, I still won't be bleating like a goat, the way you are
Whenever Chuff is not chuffed usually signals that something logical and sensible is going on and on that basis, I support
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IMHO income from clicks is often overestimated. You need to be a Facebook to really make worthwhile money on the tiny amounts every click is worth.
This is true, but banner advertising can be quite lucrative, and having another web property could fit with the overall commercial strategy of sites like The Local.

Many companies are fairly happy with blanket exposure, tracking clicks and whether they were useful can be too much bother.
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Indeed. This probably ok meant but at the end negative talk of "they are all after our money" is really misguided. It is our community and we need to preserve it. Takes no cash nor special wit to navigate our internet and build our community as a platform for all civilly expressed opinions and for different needs of expats and locals.

I know I sound very ecumenical, but there..
So I guess you will be condemning how Ace1 and 22 yards have been treated then?
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This place is like HOUSE OF CARDS series. So much drama and back stabbing from all sides.

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I honestly couldn’t care less if we have mods or not. I don’t think I ever posted anything that needed moderating, and if someone else’s posts sistematically rub me the wrong way, I’ll either ignore the post, or set the user to ignore (so I don’t accidentally read their stupidity).

I understand the role of mods, but I think I may be able to live without the role just fine. This is the second time there’s a big issue around mod rights in a few months? And EF continues to survive. And the owners continue to not care. And the world keeps spinning.
This.

Also overall a quite well mannered place, I find.
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