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Old 13.06.2021, 20:06
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Having been to Ticino twice in the last few weeks - I have to say that the Ticinese are incredibly friendly and easy going.

The Zürichers there were just the same as they always are - rude, entitled and generally having absolutely no manners.
At least they are better than the NL and DE visitors who even bring their own beer and water with them!

That said, not all northerners are so, there are certainly those that at least try to improve their reputation.

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Old 13.06.2021, 20:18
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Why do I carry on for more than a decade? As jacek posted, there are many reasons for volunteering.

As per hostile behavior, not everyone comes to the EF to be hostile.
The mods have made it clear you haven't really been doing much modding and you're extremely difficult to work with in a team. I volunteer giving advice by being a member which you can do as well. Some of your advice is extremely good and sympathetic. I personally think you'd be a greater asset to EF as a member and not as a mod. Do the right thing and step down.
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Old 13.06.2021, 20:26
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The question I'd like you to answer is, why do you still on being a mod if there is so much hostility to your behaviour on this forum?
What's in it personally for you?
I resented the way i was mobbed on this forum by the two mods. I thought it was utter BS the childish PMs that I received from those with no means for recourse. Now I'm not , never was and have no plans to be MC but if I was I'd thoroughly enjoy letting proper debate flow on the forum again - we can talk about immigration and circumcision and cow's horns and lots of other things without fearing a woke brigade - or any other brigade - because that's what a mob looks like. Many people are clearly part of the anti MC mob and why should she or anyone submit to such ?

A far more rational approach would be to see how it goes for a couple months and if the mob's panties are still in a bunch then they should air them out then.
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Old 13.06.2021, 20:37
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I resented the way i was mobbed on this forum by the two mods. I thought it was utter BS the childish PMs that I received from those with no means for recourse. Now I'm not , never was and have no plans to be MC but if I was I'd thoroughly enjoy letting proper debate flow on the forum again - we can talk about immigration and circumcision and cow's horns and lots of other things..
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Old 13.06.2021, 20:37
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A far more rational approach would be to see how it goes for a couple months and if the mob's panties are still in a bunch then they should air them out then.
This has been going on for a decade. She's bunched so many panties that posters and mods have become sterile while cream for chaffing has sold out. It's time for her to step down.
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Old 13.06.2021, 20:39
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@ 3Wishes

Thanks for the detailed background.

So you, Castro and Roegner were all hurt by this, the law of unintended consequences strikes again.

I could understand this if FMF was named and shamed in a public naughty boy list but this was really a storm in a teacup.

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Old 13.06.2021, 20:44
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Speaking of drama, what a great way to find out that there was some kind of vote on me.
Now you can empathise with 22yards and Ace?
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This has been going on for a decade. She's bunched so many panties that posters and mods have become sterile while cream for chaffing has sold out. It's time for her to step down.
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Old 13.06.2021, 20:47
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I would second that. She has conducted herself in an un-modly way repeatedly and calling her out on it or other weird behaviour results in all her boys piling on top of you as well as her either pretending she didn't see it or spending the next few weeks following you around the forum to antagonise you. Until you tell her to give it a rest and she stops. She derails threads/joins in on derailing them, stokes arguments and generally contributes to the cliquey feel of this place. This wouldn't be great from a normal user but from a mod? Nope.
In my opinion this is unacceptable behaviour from any user on a forum, whether mod or not.

And yes, MusicChick, you do it over and over and over again. I'm appealing here, publically, yet again, to ask you to stop. I went public before, and am doing so again, because you have never once responded to my PMs to you, asking you please to tone things down.

MusicChick, I don't understand. Your critics are not lone voices, nor ar they a homogenous group. The latter would be evidence of bullying, but I don't believe that is what is happening, when people criticise your manner. I observe that many users - who are very different from one another and do not always agree with one another on many topics. - have pointed out to you that your posts are too often disruptive, devisive and sometimes even destructive. Given that, I wonder why you persist in posting in that way.
  • Sometimes I wonder whether you genuinely don't know better. Could it be that you just don't realise, at all, that being nasty, boastful and condescending, and that stirring up trouble, that creating arguments for the sake of it, isn't fun or cute, nor smart, nor kind nor a helpful contribution? If you really can't see it, then that would be a scary condition to be in.

  • If, on the other hand, you post as you do with open eyes, clearly seeing that people get stung and hurt by your words, reading the many times people have appealed to you to stop, and yet you persist in posting in such a way that discussions get de-railed after your posts, and knowing that many have left this forum because of your behaviour.... if you're doing this in full awareness, well, then that, too is scary, in a different way.
The same applies to how you behave as a mod, within or without the modding team.

Once again, I'm asking you,(and for that matter everyone else here) please, to post peacefully. That doesn't mean necessarily agreeing with everyone, and it certainly does not mean becoming bland, just becoming polite. It is not a weakness but a strength to be able to discuss a topic while still bringing basic respect and consideration to those with whom you disagree. It is perfectly possible, with a little effort and self-discipline, to express an oposing opinion, using good manners.

You once said you would think about the effect if your posts more, and I thanked you then, and for a little while, your posts were more moderate. Please think much longer, please scan your work for barbs and weapons, and then edit your work, before you press on "submit reply". That really would be an improvement. Thank you.

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Old 13.06.2021, 20:49
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It's time for her to step down.
By posting this 3 times it doesn't really count as 3 votes. PM Chuff, he had some pamphlet petition going on, maybe by aligning forces you might get a tad more traction.
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By posting this 3 times it doesn't really count as 3 votes. PM Chuff, he had some pamphlet petition going on, maybe by aligning forces you might get a tad more traction.
To be honest, I'm not sure how to start an EF petition. Should it be done as a poll or maybe just a joint effort in flooding EB's inbox or even the Local's inbox with mails asking for MC to step down? I do, however, believe MC should know what's going on. It's only fair and it would give her a chance to step down on her own accord

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Old 13.06.2021, 21:17
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I may not always agree with MC or her behavior, but at this stage I think you've made your point and it's time to stop. Please go enjoy the sunset, relax and have a nice drink.
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Old 13.06.2021, 21:26
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To be honest, I'm not sure how to start an EF petition. Should it be done as a poll or maybe just a joint effort in flooding EB's inbox or even the Local's inbox with mails asking for MC to step down? I do, however, believe MC should know what's going on. It's only fair and it would give her a chance to step down on her own accord

(Yeah..no. 4)

Never liked mob rule! Witch-hunt led by holy priest Chuff?
My problem is that the holy people shouting WITCH MC are very apt at dark arts themselves. Hence, my revulsion in joining the mob!

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Old 13.06.2021, 21:26
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Alas, I got advanced warning on Thursday, but decided to wait until Friday before releasing the excrement to freely advance towards the ventilators.

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This has been going on for a decade. She's bunched so many panties that posters and mods have become sterile while cream for chaffing has sold out. It's time for her to step down.
What has she actually done? She's only ever been pleasant to me (as have 22 yards and ace1 and FMF got the record.) The amount of personal vitriol - is it really worth it? It's only an Internet forum. Pretty much everyone on here is well educated and polite.
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Old 13.06.2021, 21:30
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Never liked mob rule! Witch-hunt led by holy priest Chuff?
My problem is that the holy people shouting WITCH MC are very apt at dark arts themselves. Hence, my revulsion in joining the mob!

Chuff has really rubbed you the wrong way hasn’t he 😂
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Old 13.06.2021, 21:36
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No worries. I see you as the Melania of the EF Republican Party, a party leader who often makes no sense and divides instead of unites. Even your avatar is appropriately orange. If you and your cronies managed to remove Ace and 22Yards and replace them with one of your own, I’d say the Trump philosophy of manipulation is alive and well.
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Dang. It really is like the Republican Party under Trump. Other mods have been warned as well for exactly the same reasons and yet remain mods. Be very careful of the boomerang effect, MC.
Oh man, this is the most tiresome, lazy and now boring smear to be thrown about on this forum. No one here is Donald Trump, very few people here are Trumpian, and now he's gone it's time to think up of something more original.

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You don't notice the mods here? Funnily enough, you are not the only one who confirms this.
Just because you've not experienced something personally, it doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I've also been on the end of what I've felt to be bullying, vindictive and unreasonable behaviour and have also made a complaint about it.

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Would you say you are Chuff's cronie for letting him get away with personal insults when others got banned for less? I personally don't mind Chuff's insults as I can easily counter them but as a Mod should same level playing field not be applied?
Exactly this! Whilst I would be the first to admit that my beliefs or line of discussion may rub people up the wrong way, but this guy is, without question, the most rude, abusive and unpleasant person on this forum. Something was seriously wrong when I was getting bans and infringements for doing the best to make my arguments, posting links to scientific papers etc. and this guy was/is getting away with calling people narcissists and psychopaths on a regular basis.
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Old 13.06.2021, 21:49
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That's absolutely not what you implied above, suggesting that you had asked me to do something and I had refused to respond. Talk about re-writing the truth. If you had complained to a given mod then it would clearly have been up to that mod to explain to you what was agreed, or not.

And again, why were you so bothered about the infractions, petty and importantly private as they were? I don't get it. And all of the actions were a result of you continually trying to goad, insult and cast snide aspersions against another user. I know you two had a falling out quite a few years ago, but your apparent inability to let it lie was the only cause of any strife, and was all that you were called out on.

I really had to laugh at one of your PMs, where you just said something like "I was right though". As if being right (and who knows or cares anyway? Not me.) makes you somehow immune from the rules about being civil to other members of the forum.
I believe you have been dishonest more than once & am happy to do a deep dive in the mod zone to confirm, you could just apologise, I would accept that.
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Old 13.06.2021, 21:53
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Never liked mob rule! Witch-hunt led by holy priest Chuff?
My problem is that the holy people shouting WITCH MC are very apt at dark arts themselves. Hence, my revulsion in joining the mob!
Mob rule? Democracy in action
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Old 13.06.2021, 21:56
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I believe you have been dishonest more than once & am happy to do a deep dive in the mod zone to confirm, you could just apologise, I would accept that.
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Please tone it down, that's all I ask
Good advice from a new mod.
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