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I meant their punishments were rescinded.
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several attempts made. each time the lost password arrived several hours after.
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In that case "keyboardandmouse" it will have to be for you
Just FYI, a mod can change your password to whatever you like in a couple of seconds, then you need to reset it to something more secure. In the past an email generated from the "contact us" page could be seen by mods, although that access was rescinded after the last debacle, but one can usually find a way to get a message to the mods, even if you've already set up a new account, which can then be merged with the old one or deleted as appropriate.
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Just FYI, a mod can change your password to whatever you like in a couple of seconds, then you need to reset it to something more secure. In the past an email generated from the "contact us" page could be seen by mods, although that access was rescinded after the last debacle, but one can usually find a way to get a message to the mods, even if you've already set up a new account, which can then be merged with the old one or deleted as appropriate.
Wow, sounds like you are pretty informed. You should offer your services to thelocal.

Or just hover around as a rent-a-mod.
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That is exactly what some members are saying about the other Mods actions too. Do you see their point too, or just obsessed with your vendetta against Virgin Witch MC?
If it is true, then it should be addressed. I don't have the patience to track everyone else's drama and grudges, so unless someone has targeted a personal friend of mine, I honestly don't care. My beef is based on a persistent pattern of being intentionally disruptive while not having the decency to acknowledge any wrongdoing and more often than not responding with utter non sequiturs that usually aim to amuse her loyal knights with shining keyboards.

We have a perfect quod erat demonstrandum in this thread: MC and her merry men have acted exactly as I predicted they would. I have received multiple rep messages (thanks to everyone, by the way, I'm terrible at thanking people personally for rep, please don't be offended if I don't) agreeing with my evaluation of her behaviour and it is not just the supposed "witch hunters". My point is that if Ace1 and 22 yards were demodded based on the things mentioned in this thread, then Music Chick should be too.

I honestly doubt FMF is a good choice of mod because he is very much a "my way or the highway" person. Since that way is firmly set in the late eighties with regards to many of his views, it can only lead to a less inclusive forum. However, he may surprise us all by using his role responsibly once he has got his grievances out of his system in this thread.

Maybe it would do everyone good to remember what the intended purpose and intrinsic value of this forum is and how they can conduct themselves to maintain that value. Consider what cost there may be to ruthlessly feeding your ego to a point where people feel that they not only want to have nothing more to do with the forum but also don't want a single trace of them ever having been here to remain.
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Sounds like a mod who was on a power trip finally got their comeuppance.
Based on your vast knowledge of the situation? Welcome to EF, btw.

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As TC & FMF demonstrated one must simply complain to EB to fix it.
Indeed. It appears that EB/James is quite selective with his responses.

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That does appear to work where discrimination has occurred in the past & will in the future.
Good to know. I suspect it's a case of who rather than what, however.
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Unlike you, I don't read every thread on EF.
You don't need to. Obviously. You already know what other people do.
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If they have misbehaved too, then it would be logical, yes.
There is no if, the link shows it.

So where's your demand for 3whishes to step down? Or does it only count when it's against someone you disapprove of?

According to your pseudologic, the lack of such a demand proves that you're one of 3wishes cronies.
Perhaps you realise now how asinine those kinds of smears are. They say more about the poster than the attacked. Identity politics comes to mind.
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Re: Mod shakeup

What I find most bizarre about all of this is that people are arguing over being a mod -- a position that requires quite a bit of time and energy and one that the person does NOT receive payment for or any kind of reward, really (that is, of course, unless someone perceives being a mod here as some kind of special honor, in which case I think it is then a matter of ego and the love of power).

Personally, I don't really give a shit who is a mod and who isn't. But that's just my take on it. I just wish the bickering would stop, as well as all the passive-aggressiveness, because in the past year or so (in particular), this place has become intolerable.

A year or so ago, I found myself in a heated, ongoing argument with someone here that ended up putting me in a really bad mood and ruining my day. I could literally feel my cortisol spiking because of it. It was at that point that I found myself realizing that I need to be in control of my use of this forum -- and how it affects me -- rather than allowing it to be in control of me.

So I'm sorry to say it, but part of me can't help but wonder how many of us might actually be happier -- or at least more at peace -- if we didn't use this forum. Taking long breaks from here now and then can really work wonders and force you to realize just how much time and energy this place had been consuming. Taking long breaks from here also really helps allow you to emotionally distance from it.

"If it costs you your inner peace, it's too expensive."

So that's just my take on it. I hate to see so many people getting in arguments on a forum that is run by a company that sits back and profits from it -- a forum that is specifically designed to be addictive -- but meanwhile clearly doesn't really give much of a shit about its members or the people who donate their time and energy to sustaining their profit machine. It's starting to feel like we're a pack of wolves trapped together in an imaginary cage.
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Old 14.06.2021, 13:03
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If it is true, then it should be addressed. I don't have the patience to track everyone else's drama and grudges, so unless someone has targeted a personal friend of mine, I honestly don't care.
Fair enough, but don't expect others who are not your friend to care either

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My beef is based on a persistent pattern of being intentionally disruptive while not having the decency to acknowledge any wrongdoing and more often than not responding with utter non sequiturs that usually aim to amuse her loyal knights with shining keyboards.
Let me give you the benefit of doubt. If what you say is true, why get so worked up? Unless your friends got banned permanently?

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We have a perfect quod erat demonstrandum in this thread: MC and her merry men have acted exactly as I predicted they would. I have received multiple rep messages agreeing with my evaluation of her behaviour and it is not just the supposed "witch hunters".
Even though I am not on Team A or Team B, I also got multiple positive rep messages for posts on this thread (not all from Witch's supporters), that always happens anyway. So what?
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My point is that if Ace1 and 22 yards were demodded based on the things mentioned in this thread, then Music Chick should be too.
I am not EB nor did I defrock them. Nor am I MC's lawyer, or is she my friend (no one on EF is my friend). If all the Mods here get defrocked or frocked (including MC) it won't be the end of the world for me like it is for some of you
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Wasn't V__ unbanned too, only to be rebanned by EB?
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If it is true, then it should be addressed. I don't have the patience to track everyone else's drama and grudges, so unless someone has targeted a personal friend of mine, I honestly don't care. My beef is based on a persistent pattern of being intentionally disruptive while not having the decency to acknowledge any wrongdoing and more often than not responding with utter non sequiturs that usually aim to amuse her loyal knights with shining keyboards.

We have a perfect quod erat demonstrandum in this thread: MC and her merry men have acted exactly as I predicted they would. I have received multiple rep messages (thanks to everyone, by the way, I'm terrible at thanking people personally for rep, please don't be offended if I don't) agreeing with my evaluation of her behaviour and it is not just the supposed "witch hunters". My point is that if Ace1 and 22 yards were demodded based on the things mentioned in this thread, then Music Chick should be too.

I honestly doubt FMF is a good choice of mod because he is very much a "my way or the highway" person. Since that way is firmly set in the late eighties with regards to many of his views, it can only lead to a less inclusive forum. However, he may surprise us all by using his role responsibly once he has got his grievances out of his system in this thread.

Maybe it would do everyone good to remember what the intended purpose and intrinsic value of this forum is and how they can conduct themselves to maintain that value. Consider what cost there may be to ruthlessly feeding your ego to a point where people feel that they not only want to have nothing more to do with the forum but also don't want a single trace of them ever having been here to remain.
Now perhaps MC has done something I'm not aware of - I've genuinely never really noticed her being controversial. She's obviously centre right but doesn't seem to hold grudges against those who aren't.

But all this comparing her to Melania Trump (a pretty obvious play on her ethnicity) and making in general rather gendered insults isn't really on. If that makes me one of the "witches knights" or whatever so be it.

FMF goes out of his way to help people, especially on the finance Forum and has undoubtedly saved forum members thousands of CHFs. Yes he doesn't suffer fools but he's obviously a nice bloke. I doubt he'd be unfair.

I say this without having a word against Ace1 or 22yards. Both are an asset here and in their moderation role I only ever noticed them doing day to day boring stuff that needs doing. Fixing broken quotes, moving posts to the correct subforum and the like.

Why can't everyone just be civil to everyone else?

If I could make a humble suggestion: if there's a need for a "left wing" moderator (by the standards of EF) - how about pancakes? Nice, non-tribal person. Maybe would add a bit of balance.
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What I find most bizarre about all of this is that people are arguing over being a mod -- a position that requires quite a bit of time and energy and one that the person does NOT receive payment for or any kind of reward, really (that is, of course, unless someone perceives being a mod here as some kind of special honor, in which case I think it is then a matter of ego and the love of power).

THIS!!!!!!!


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Frocked ones want to hold on to their frock!
Naked ones are dying to get hold of a frock (directly or through their Mod proxies)!



Comedy GOLD!!!!!
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Wasn't V__ unbanned too, only to be rebanned by EB?
Yes: https://www.englishforum.ch/members/60091-v-.html

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You don't need to. Obviously. You already know what other people do.

There is no if, the link shows it.

So where's your demand for 3whishes to step down? Or does it only count when it's against someone you disapprove of?

According to your pseudologic, the lack of such a demand proves that you're one of 3wishes cronies.
Perhaps you realise now how asinine those kinds of smears are. They say more about the poster than the attacked. Identity politics comes to mind.
You initial post before you turned a question into an assumption was better.

I am nobody's crony, stop projecting your own issues on to me.

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Now perhaps MC has done something I'm not aware of - I've genuinely never really noticed her being controversial. She's obviously centre right but doesn't seem to hold grudges against those who aren't.

But all this comparing her to Melania Trump (a pretty obvious play on her ethnicity) and making in general rather gendered insults isn't really on. If that makes me one of the "witches knights" or whatever so be it.

Why can't everyone just be civil to everyone else?
Eh? I'm not comparing her to Melania Trump, what are you on about? Her nationality doesn't even come to mind except when she gets passionate about ice hockey or artists I have never heard of (but am glad to find out about). I guess you feel about this issue as I do about the 3wishes thing: didn't notice anything to that effect and don't care enough to go down the rabbit hole.
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Wasn't V__ unbanned too, only to be rebanned by EB?
Yes. It took EB about a week to realise that the ban was fully justified.
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I am nobody's crony, stop projecting your own issues on to me.
I'm not calling anybody crony, the projecting is yours (the anti-MC crowd) alone. As for you personally, whether you call others cronies, or merry men after they were called cronies, doesn't rally make a difference, you lump them together, too. That's the mindset of identity politics.

Besides, still looking forward to your demand for 3wishes to step down.

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Eh? I'm not comparing her to Melania Trump, what are you on about? Her nationality doesn't even come to mind except when she gets passionate about ice hockey or artists I have never heard of (but am glad to find out about). I guess you feel about this issue as I do about the 3wishes thing: didn't notice anything to that effect and don't care enough to go down the rabbit hole.
That was me. This whole business feels very partisan and divisive... much like the days of Trump so I made the comparison. Someone mentioned Melania is hot and I'm jealous so maybe I paid MC a compliment.
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I wonder when the moderarors are going to do something about the drive-by groaning in the thread by jamon8 and MidfieldGeneral, in particular. Or is this permitted now? Looks like a rather partisan approach is being taken. No surprises there.
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22 Yards and Ace1, would you like your frock back or are you OK with your custom fitted forum trousers? Genuine question?
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Was that while he was giving a clear message that he was upset with your actions?
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