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Old 11.06.2021, 08:43
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Mod shakeup

So, what happened?

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Old 11.06.2021, 08:53
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Re: Mod shakeup

It's a warning for all forum legends. We may all end up like FMF if we don't behave well.
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Old 11.06.2021, 08:54
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Re: Mod shakeup

Did FMF just become a super mod?

Edit: Also, why is LiB a super mod when he rarely posts anymore? It's been over 6 months since he's been here.
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Looks like Mod Coup all over again. Once again, 22Yards and myself have been completely removed as mods, the others have had a lot of their superpowers removed. Not sure what triggered it, although there were some internal discussions a couple of days ago.

Now, of course, I can't see those discussions, so can't tell if they were followed up, but basically one moderator was attacking all the rest and accusing us of being politically motivated in our actions. I'm on hols at the moment so didn't comment, but it was very much a case of one against the whole of the rest of the team.
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Old 11.06.2021, 09:02
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Looks like Mod Coup all over again. Once again, 22Yards and myself have been completely removed as mods, the others have had a lot of their superpowers removed. Not sure what triggered it, although there were some internal discussions a couple of days ago.
The infraction you gave me last week. I did contact you & another moderator before escalating an ongoing complaint.
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The infraction you gave me last week. I did contact you & another moderator before escalating an ongoing complaint.
The infraction for you, despite being asked not to do so multiple times, attacking another forum member? The infraction which was issued instead of a ban, as might have happened in the past? The infraction that nobody else can see, only you and the mod team?
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The infraction you gave me last week. I did contact you & another moderator before escalating an ongoing complaint.
I guess this illustrates why a system with infractions is not really successful. Instead of acknowledging that they went too far (which they often do) and maybe take it down a few notches, they go and cry to the manager, who promptly sides with the person who screams the loudest and gives them what they want plus a bit more.
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Have just heard that this was a result of FMF talking to another mod and them going direct to Editor Bob.

Absolutely ridiculous. EB has consistently refused to engage in discussion with the moderator group as a whole, or with myself, 22Y, Roegner, 3Wishes and Lib (who yes, is still there although largely inactive), but happy to act, and precipitately, on the asking of MusicChick and one other forum member.
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Old 11.06.2021, 09:11
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Have just heard that this was a result of FMF talking to another mod and them going direct to Editor Bob.

Absolutely ridiculous. EB has consistently refused to engage in discussion with the moderator group as a whole, or with myself, 22Y, Roegner, 3Wishes and Lib (who yes, is still there although largely inactive), but happy to act, and precipitately, on the asking of MusicChick and one other forum member.
Thanks for updating us ace. Probably best for your sanity to be out of it now- happy Friday-Enjoy the sun!
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Old 11.06.2021, 09:18
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Have just heard that this was a result of FMF talking to another mod and them going direct to Editor Bob.

Absolutely ridiculous. EB has consistently refused to engage in discussion with the moderator group as a whole, or with myself, 22Y, Roegner, 3Wishes and Lib (who yes, is still there although largely inactive), but happy to act, and precipitately, on the asking of MusicChick and one other forum member.
That's just crazy. You should work with your moderation team, not ignore them and make arbitrary decisions out of the blue.
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Have just heard that this was a result of FMF talking to another mod and them going direct to Editor Bob.

Absolutely ridiculous. EB has consistently refused to engage in discussion with the moderator group as a whole, or with myself, 22Y, Roegner, 3Wishes and Lib (who yes, is still there although largely inactive), but happy to act, and precipitately, on the asking of MusicChick and one other forum member.
Incorrect, I went directly to Editor Bob.

I tried to engage with you & another mod (whose initial reaction was to laugh) as I wanted the mods to take some responsibility for their own actions themselves.
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Have just heard that this was a result of FMF talking to another mod and them going direct to Editor Bob.

Absolutely ridiculous. EB has consistently refused to engage in discussion with the moderator group as a whole, or with myself, 22Y, Roegner, 3Wishes and Lib (who yes, is still there although largely inactive), but happy to act, and precipitately, on the asking of MusicChick and one other forum member.
I'm sorry to hear that there's been issues again with the modding group. Without a reliable modding system that can provide impartial, wise and justified decisions, the whole spirit of this forum could be damaged.

Congratulations to the new mods. I, for one, will stand behind you if you do your job well. However, if there's a pattern of biased modding, be ready to feel the heat. I care too much for this forum to see it become a playground of narcissistic fools.
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Did FMF just become a super mod?

Edit: Also, why is LiB a super mod when he rarely posts anymore? It's been over 6 months since he's been here.
FMF as a mod? Surely that is some kind of sick joke.

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Looks like Mod Coup all over again. Once again, 22Yards and myself have been completely removed as mods, the others have had a lot of their superpowers removed. Not sure what triggered it, although there were some internal discussions a couple of days ago.

Now, of course, I can't see those discussions, so can't tell if they were followed up, but basically one moderator was attacking all the rest and accusing us of being politically motivated in our actions. I'm on hols at the moment so didn't comment, but it was very much a case of one against the whole of the rest of the team.
WTF... Editor Bob has clearly lost the plot. What other mod would be so lacking in moral fibre and character to do something like that?

I suggest all EF'ers message him to ask wtf is going on
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Old 11.06.2021, 09:14
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Who else got de-modded?

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Congratulations FMF!! Wish you success in the new role!



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Wow ... just wow, and this one long term mod that went to Editor Bob isn't politically motivated and often the most polarizing force on this forum?

Ace1, I've always appreciated how you have zero patience for trolls and did your best to make this forum a nice place...definitely writing to EB to give my two cents.
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22 yards and olygirl I think.
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Roegner has lost most of her Admin Control Panel powers, exactly the same as happened before christmas, and I would be surprised if it wasn't also true for the others. At that point, MusicChick refused to engage with any of the rest of the team, so we were never able to confirm whether she still retained all her powers or not.
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Old 11.06.2021, 10:40
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Looks like Mod Coup all over again. Once again, 22Yards and myself have been completely removed as mods, the others have had a lot of their superpowers removed. Not sure what triggered it, although there were some internal discussions a couple of days ago.

Now, of course, I can't see those discussions, so can't tell if they were followed up, but basically one moderator was attacking all the rest and accusing us of being politically motivated in our actions. I'm on hols at the moment so didn't comment, but it was very much a case of one against the whole of the rest of the team.
Going behind your back and getting all vindictive? Nice.

@Ace, it's a wonderful weather outside, you may want to take advantage of it and get a better perspective on these things.... We probably invested emotionally in this online community (in spite of our better judgement lol) but it's just more and more polarised and ridiculous.
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@Ace, it's a wonderful weather outside, you may want to take advantage of it and get a better perspective on these things.... We probably invested emotionally in this online community (in spite of our better judgement lol) but it's just more and more polarised and ridiculous.
I'm cool, thanks. The view of the Libyan Sea from our bungalow on Crete is quite calming, and honestly, this is all a bit groundhog day, so any emotional investment has long since evaporated.

I'm just anxious for the future of the forum, is all. I've put a lot of time and effort into trying to remain balanced, and have been by far the most active in the last couple of years dealing with day-to-day issues like mispostings, closing threads, merging posts and threads, approving new users etc. etc.

My worry is that with two of us gone and the others locked out, it will be down to MC, who's done very little of the donkey work, and FMF, to whom it's all new, so we might end up with more spam getting through (hey, apparently I'm still a Spam Deputy though) and inaction to try to calm the petty squabbles.

Which, I might note, seem to have largely calmed down quite a lot recently. Let's see if it stays that way.
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