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...and I thought it was us lefties without a sense of humour.
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Old 01.10.2021, 17:01
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As fully expected after the ridiculous closure this will lead to the death of this forum. Either heat-death (the normal end of a forum where it runs out of active posters) or vegetable like state with a few (often paid) posters answering repeated one-of questions of posters making an account to ask one specific question. There's probably a lot of circle-jerking on the way to either of these outcomes though! (yay! for those that asked for this I guess).
Translation.

I can't say what I wanna say. It's the moberators again. But basically what Chuff said. Yes. It's come to this. I'm agreeing with Chuff. I'm sure he's equally thrilled.

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Old 01.10.2021, 17:06
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.... I demand satisfaction at dawn ...................
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Nah, the forum will be fine and even improve. The forum closure by thelocal, and the resulting lower moderator tolerance for all of the crazy anti-science, conspiracy and right-wing crap which had started to explode on the forum in the last months, just means that the known bad actors will no longer have a platform to spew their nonsense.
I'm sure they will find one somewhere, you can get any nut theory you like confirmed somewhere in the internet.. But hopefully not this forum any more.
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Old 01.10.2021, 18:33
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The key thing is to make absolutely sure that Dawn is as enthusiastic about it as you are.
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Old 01.10.2021, 18:42
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The key thing is to make absolutely sure that Dawn is as enthusiastic about it as you are.
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Old 02.10.2021, 11:16
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Re: Mod deletions

So telling someone who wants to be able to make inappropriate comments in the workplace because it makes life more fun that they are exactly what we mean when we roll our eyes at #notallmen is a "pointed, personal attack" and gets your post deleted. Meanwhile, the post calling for more levity when talking about sexual assault is allowed to stand.

That is some bovine excrement.
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Old 02.10.2021, 11:49
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So telling someone who wants to be able to make inappropriate comments in the workplace because it makes life more fun that they are exactly what we mean when we roll our eyes at #notallmen is a "pointed, personal attack" and gets your post deleted. Meanwhile, the post calling for more levity when talking about sexual assault is allowed to stand.

That is some bovine excrement.
It's not against the rules to ask people to lighten up. But I agree 100% that calling for levity in this case is in very poor taste.

Telling another user that <I hope some woman who has had it up to the back teeth makes you into her "project"> is a very personal attack and it was reported as such.

You make some good arguments and you're passionate about the subject. There's nothing wrong with that. Please just leave out the personal attacks. That's all.
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Old 02.10.2021, 15:07
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Re: Mod deletions

I still stand by the fact that if my post is deleted, so should his, because it is offensive in the given context. And if someone feels offended by me hoping someone consistently and publicly pushes back on this dismissive nonsense (which is what I had in mind), it's probably because they are not happy with the idea of their actions having consequences, i.e. they are part of the problem.
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Old 02.10.2021, 16:10
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Oh cute. jamon8 puts forward a theory that only the approved perspective may be now be posted. I demonstrate a proof against this by contradiction, and he red blobs me for lack of critical thinking.

Actually, despite being long here I only recently bothered to find out what this 'red reps' or whatever actually is... I just can't believe how adults behave like they are in kindergarten.

Do you seriously care about a reputation at some online platform?

This is beyond me.

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As fully expected after the ridiculous closure this will lead to the death of this forum. Either heat-death (the normal end of a forum where it runs out of active posters) or vegetable like state with a few (often paid) posters answering repeated one-of questions of posters making an account to ask one specific question. There's probably a lot of circle-jerking on the way to either of these outcomes though! (yay! for those that asked for this I guess).

I'll keep my account for the vast encyclopedia that this is (thanks for that! Has been really helpful ) and asking/answering a question or 2 but that's it. Discussion was killed when well-argued dissenting views were marked as misinformation/fake news/missogony/xxx-phobic etc. People that reject everything other than their "own" opinion (own as in just proudly parrotting mainstream beliefs) cannot be argued with. Don't argue with the ministry of truth: you are going to have a bad time.

Any alternative board to this one (Switzerland focused, English language) where open discussions are still allowed? (please pm me if so).

Cheers!
You are totally right. While this forum often has a good value information, and (sometimes) productive discussions, majority of threads are totally useless. For example, another thread appears as an obvious troll by Justin or whoever that is, and instead of a total ignore, half of the forum feels an urge to interact with a troll.

In another instance, a mod says 'hello and welcome' to the newcomer. And then gets thanked 'for this useful post'.

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Old 03.10.2021, 08:07
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As fully expected after the ridiculous closure this will lead to the death of this forum. Either heat-death (the normal end of a forum where it runs out of active posters) or vegetable like state with a few (often paid) posters answering repeated one-of questions of posters making an account to ask one specific question. There's probably a lot of circle-jerking on the way to either of these outcomes though! (yay! for those that asked for this I guess).

I'll keep my account for the vast encyclopedia that this is (thanks for that! Has been really helpful ) and asking/answering a question or 2 but that's it. Discussion was killed when well-argued dissenting views were marked as misinformation/fake news/missogony/xxx-phobic etc. People that reject everything other than their "own" opinion (own as in just proudly parrotting mainstream beliefs) cannot be argued with. Don't argue with the ministry of truth: you are going to have a bad time.

Any alternative board to this one (Switzerland focused, English language) where open discussions are still allowed? (please pm me if so).

Cheers!
Right, right....said someone who hasn't been that active a poster before he sensed he can also spout all the BS it crosses his mind. No platform has any obligation to host and encourage what a handful of very aggressive and argumentative people, who are often here just to provoke and bully, consider it is "their truth" and " their free speech". There are blogs for that. Or other....known sites...

Maybe you could start your own forum, see how that goes. As far as you respect common sense rules, you can write whatever you want here and you know it. You are just unhappy with the turn this platform has taken in the last week or so, reducing the amount of craziness and bullying. Not spicy enough for some, eh.

Yeah, I guess there will be less agent provocateurs here from now on, but wouldn't hold my breath...

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Old 03.10.2021, 10:21
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Re: Mod deletions

Years ago I was on an online forum and someone flounced with enough followers to set up a forum without moderation. It had enough members that it should have been viable. But it just became an echo chamber and people got bored.

I think it's a bit like toddlers - they need to have boundaries to flail against or they don't feel safe!
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Old 03.10.2021, 11:04
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So what makes us better than our competitor, reddit? I've started glancing through some of those reddit posts and the answers are quite often very well-informed.

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Old 03.10.2021, 11:46
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So what makes us better than our competitor, reddit? I've started glancing through some of those reddit posts and the answers are quite often very well-informed.
To compare reddit and EF is really hard. English Forum is a forum almost wholly dedicated to Switzerland, with multiple sub-sections dealing with varied topics on pretty much everything you can imagine. It is well structured, organised and categorized.

Reddit is a gargantuan online platform, which consists of hundreds of thousands of subreddits, of which anything Swiss-related is only a tiny fraction. r/Switzerland with 150k members and r/askswitzerland with 50k members are the only two Swiss subreddits of significance and yet collectively have four times more members than EF. They are, however, much less organised and structured.

English Forum, however dysfunctional it may be, has much more of a community feeling than Reddit due to how much easier it is to distinguish and recognise individuals on it and due to the events that have been held where people know each other in person.

I prefer EF as a platform for Swiss-related stuff for the above reasons I mentioned, but both have their place.
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So what makes us better than our competitor, reddit? I've started glancing through some of those reddit posts and the answers are quite often very well-informed.
Reddit.
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Old 03.10.2021, 13:15
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Years ago I was on an online forum and someone flounced with enough followers to set up a forum without moderation. It had enough members that it should have been viable. But it just became an echo chamber and people got bored.

I think it's a bit like toddlers - they need to have boundaries to flail against or they don't feel safe!
I agree a forum needs a minimum size but it is hard to set hard and fast rules of what that size must be. EF attracts a lot of new people who have questions about Switzerland and some of those stick around so EF is constantly changing and staying alive.
Forums that are set up by flouncers have the basic problem that their role is not clear, consequently, it is difficult for a forum set up, for example, by EF flouncers to attract new members and remain long-term viable.
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I agree a forum needs a minimum size but it is hard to set hard and fast rules of what that size must be. EF attracts a lot of new people who have questions about Switzerland and some of those stick around so EF is constantly changing and staying alive.
Forums that are set up by flouncers have the basic problem that their role is not clear, consequently, it is difficult for a forum set up, for example, by EF flouncers to attract new members and remain long-term viable.
Frankly... I wish them good luck. Seriously. It's incredible how civil this forum can be without a handful of professional instigators, narcissists and meanies.
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Old 04.10.2021, 22:01
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Re: Mod deletions

I hope that those who have recently been defrocked can be welcomed back as mere mortal members of the forum. Some had very clearly defined and respected expertise areas and their absence, for that reason, is a significant loss.

My belief has anyway always been that good moderators are called and pressed reluctantly into service and that the greatest disqualifying factor for a potential forum moderator is that they actually want to be a forum moderator.

Anyway, hopefully the latest round of back stabbing and animosity is behind us and that a period of tranquillity can prevail.

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