reputation and stars

[st2lemans]

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	I'm pretty sure Ticino Tom has been banned in the past.

Yes, I wonder by whom?

Tom

[Chuff]

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	Sure. Although I'm not sure neg rep should be accompanied with a nice comment. I prefer constructive like telling the person that their post was awful. Sometimes I just leave a .

By 'nasty' I don't just mean bluntly honest or a little insulting, but intentionally abusive in some way.

[olygirl]

I often find negative reps reveal a lot about the poster's character. If someone gives me a red rep with a reasonable explanation, I think about the context and perhaps even agree with the poster in hindsight. However, I've also received red reps which have no reasoning beyond a weird comment.

Needless to say, anyone who bestows me a green rep is all aces in my book.

[3Wishes]

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	Am enjoying the feuds developing on here. Very WWF (or whatever it is called nowadays).

WWF is cuddly panda bears. WWE is Hulk Hogan and The Rock. HTH.

[swissotter]

	Quote:	3Wishes
	WWF is cuddly panda bears. WWE is Hulk Hogan and The Rock. HTH.

could be feuding cuddly pandas, in that case WWF is spot on

[porsch1909]

	Quote:	Chuff
	By 'nasty' I don't just mean bluntly honest or a little insulting, but intentionally abusive in some way.

Ok sure, but that's not why I was banned

	Quote:	3Wishes
	WWF is cuddly panda bears. WWE is Hulk Hogan and The Rock. HTH.

I'm old school, from before the time when the cuddly pandas sued the fake wrestlers to prevent them using the WWF name

[Treverus]

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	I'm old school, from before the time when the cuddly pandas sued the fake wrestlers to prevent them using the WWF name

[st2lemans]

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	I'm old school, from before the time when the cuddly pandas sued the fake wrestlers to prevent them using the WWF name

https://www.sporcle.com/blog/2018/04...r-name-to-wwe/

Tom

All things considered, it seems pretty clear to me that
comparing different systems of user approval is fundamentally useless,
especially given the enormous differences between social media platforms.

Is it really useful to say anything negative about reputation points or thanks, when other
social media platforms have their own idiosyncratic systems such as likes or whatnot?

All of them have their foibles.

To say that the English Forum is unique in that respect would be foolish. Far from it: it does exactly
what it does, and it does it well. I'm not sure I'd want to see it
abandoned in favour of some faux egalitarian valueless system, where no new visitor is able to
tell which of the existing members is helpful, and who is just a mischievous nuisance.

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	All things considered, it seems pretty clear to me that comparing different systems of user approval is fundamentally useless, especially given the enormous differences between social media platforms. Is it really useful to say anything negative about reputation points or thanks, when other social media platforms have their own idiosyncratic systems such as likes or whatnot? All of them have their foibles. To say that the English Forum is unique in that respect would be foolish. Far from it: it does exactly what it does, and it does it well. I'm not sure I'd want to see it abandoned in favour of some faux egalitarian valueless system, where no new visitor is able to tell which of the existing members is helpful, and who is just a mischievous nuisance.

I have to say I agree with this. You are so right. EF is utterly unique.

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	To say that the English Forum is unique in that respect would be foolish. Far from it: it does exactly what it does, and it does it well. I'm not sure I'd want to see it abandoned in favour of some faux egalitarian valueless system, where no new visitor is able to tell which of the existing members is helpful, and who is just a mischievous nuisance.

Said he with 6 green blobs

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	All things considered, it seems pretty clear to me that comparing different systems of user approval is fundamentally useless, especially given the enormous differences between social media platforms. Is it really useful to say anything negative about reputation points or thanks, when other social media platforms have their own idiosyncratic systems such as likes or whatnot? All of them have their foibles. To say that the English Forum is unique in that respect would be foolish. Far from it: it does exactly what it does, and it does it well. I'm not sure I'd want to see it abandoned in favour of some faux egalitarian valueless system, where no new visitor is able to tell which of the existing members is helpful, and who is just a mischievous nuisance.

I don't agree

sometimes it is better to leave people to the own devices regarding
egregious posts and whether to take offence or not, after all one mans
excellent post, is another mans rabid rant.

we need to make up our own minds in the end

understand?

don't think I am singling you out for criticism at all as I know
i am guilty as guilty as anyone else at paying attention to rep
dump the whole system I say.

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	All things considered, it seems pretty clear to me that comparing different systems of user approval is fundamentally useless, especially given the enormous differences between social media platforms. Is it really useful to say anything negative about reputation points or thanks, when other social media platforms have their own idiosyncratic systems such as likes or whatnot? All of them have their foibles. To say that the English Forum is unique in that respect would be foolish. Far from it: it does exactly what it does, and it does it well. I'm not sure I'd want to see it abandoned in favour of some faux egalitarian valueless system, where no new visitor is able to tell which of the existing members is helpful, and who is just a mischievous nuisance.

No absolute universal graded helpfulness template! You don't often understand gradings accurately.

Let's be real - every antisocial karmic flurry always seems trivial.

[Treverus]

Just so that we are all on the same page: EF is unique in many ways, the green and red blobs is none of them. EF is based on a standard software for internet forums. A rather old version of that software, but still a standard product. You will find tons of forums with the exact same features. The Admins can switch the features on or off, they are not going to customize them a lot.

I personally still find it a shame that the tags were disabled as some idiots had too insult each other through keywords… it is a useful feature to find stuff.

[Chuff]

	Quote:	Treverus
	Just so that we are all on the same page: EF is unique in many ways, the green and red blobs is none of them. EF is based on a standard software for internet forums. A rather old version of that software, but still a standard product. You will find tons of forums with the exact same features. The Admins can switch the features on or off, they are not going to customize them a lot. I personally still find it a shame that the tags were disabled as some idiots had too insult each other through keywords… it is a useful feature to find stuff.

It's obviously unique to the user if it is the only forum a person uses that has a thanks and rep system, because it is thus all they know and have experience with. Almost every other forum I know has disabled their thanks and rep systems because they cause too much grief.

It is also certainly possible to compare different social media thanks and rep systems, because many of them are very different. EF/vbulletin is very abuse-able because it directs the rep comment only at the recipient (it's hidden to everyone else except mods) and as such can be used to abuse or troll people... something that DB undoubtedly has a lot of experience with.

[Treverus]

	Quote:	Chuff
	It's obviously unique to the user if it is the only forum a person uses that has a thanks and rep system, because it is thus all they know and have experience with.

Ok, but my point is that it is a standard software, so the rep system wont be changed, no matter how creative the ideas might be. It can only be switched off totally… well, there are a few configurations possible like one EF did a few years ago: back in the day where the amount of rep a user can give was depending on the rep received… so the "forum legends" could trash an obnoxious post with -15 and the guy would never get back out of the reds.

I think its pretty sensible now. Not perfect, but it does give a bit of an idea about a user and should stay. Its not the software that is abusive, its the users. I dont think there are a lot of people being very negative on here, its a small number of troublemakers, some I suspect with multiple accounts, that have no other hobbies. Its been a very long time ago but I once received insults through the rep thing… made a screenshot, send it to the mods, user banned. End of story. Nothing worth discussing for long.


P.S: Id still like to get the tags back.

[3Wishes]

	Quote:	Treverus
	P.S: Id still like to get the tags back.

Can you please screenshot or describe what you mean? As a mod I can still see tags and edit them, so I'm not understanding what's not working for you.

[lost_inbroad]

What is this reputation and stars everybody keeps referring to, something linked to my Migros Cumulus points?

[Chuff]

	Quote:	Treverus
	Ok, but my point is that it is a standard software, so the rep system wont be changed, no matter how creative the ideas might be. It can only be switched off totally… well, there are a few configurations possible like one EF did a few years ago: back in the day where the amount of rep a user can give was depending on the rep received… so the "forum legends" could trash an obnoxious post with -15 and the guy would never get back out of the reds. I think its pretty sensible now. Not perfect, but it does give a bit of an idea about a user and should stay. Its not the software that is abusive, its the users. I dont think there are a lot of people being very negative on here, its a small number of troublemakers, some I suspect with multiple accounts, that have no other hobbies. Its been a very long time ago but I once received insults through the rep thing… made a screenshot, send it to the mods, user banned. End of story. Nothing worth discussing for long. P.S: Id still like to get the tags back.

Ok, I see what you mean now.

PS: Tags are working for the thread creator so I guess you mean the ability for people to add random tags has been disabled?