Can we start deleting/merging salary/lifestyle threads?

[phdoofus]

Seriously. It's getting out of hand. How about one big thread or just start deleting new ones? What would you do if people kept asking the same thing about changing drivers licenses?

[Carlos R]

	Quote:	phdoofus
	Seriously. It's getting out of hand. How about one big thread or just start deleting new ones? What would you do if people kept asking the same thing about changing drivers licenses?

They do (keep asking about licences) anyway, don't they?

The other type of thread is the "my permit has/will be expiring, how long can I continue to fleece - sorry - stay in Switzerland illegally)?"

[Hedgehog of death]

You would have thought it should either be managed as a group thread ... in the same way sa snow sports

[Chuff]

The threads will stop when someone takes the time to make a "Guide to salaries and living costs in Switzerland" thread, detailing average copsts of various popular items, and expected living standards from various grades of salary. Then sticky it at the top of the relevant secitons, and highlight it if need be.

I suggest the people who organise this are the ones who are moaning the most about it.

[phdoofus]

Do you seriously want to give the whingers mod powers? You haven't thought that through.

[BasP72]

You can also look at it differently...

Threads about whether a certain salary is enough are actually the reason why this forum was founded. To help people new to Switzerland or people who are considering moving here. Same goes for the million-and-1 should I import my car posts, this is why this forum was founded.

Looking at it from this angle, shouldn't we immediately delete all the England / clothes-wear-out-at-the-knees / which-movie-do-you-like threads ?

My 5 rappen...

[Chuff]

oops dp...

	Quote:	phdoofus
	Do you seriously want to give the whingers mod powers? You haven't thought that through.

You just have to make and post a thread, no mod powers needed. The real mods will do the rest.

[Phil_MCR]

	Quote:	BasP72
	You can also look at it differently... Threads about whether a certain salary is enough are actually the reason why this forum was founded. To help people new to Switzerland or people who are considering moving here. Same goes for the million-and-1 should I import my car posts, this is why this forum was founded. Looking at it from this angle, shouldn't we immediately delete all the England / clothes-wear-out-at-the-knees / which-movie-do-you-like threads ? My 5 rappen...

agree. forum is useful to help others, if you don't want to help, that's fine - just ignore the thread. and with topics such as "is 125k enough to live on in Basel" they're not hard to spot and avoid.

[Rangatiranui]

	Quote:	Chuff
	The threads will stop when someone takes the time to make a "Guide to salaries and living costs in Switzerland" thread, detailing average copsts of various popular items, and expected living standards from various grades of salary. Then sticky it at the top of the relevant secitons, and highlight it if need be. I suggest the people who organise this are the ones who are moaning the most about it.

I doubt this would stop people starting new threads - it seems to take some time before people learn to use the search engine (!)

[Snoopy]

	Quote:	BasP72
	Threads about whether a certain salary is enough are actually the reason why this forum was founded.

And you know this how????

	Quote:	Phil_MCR
	just ignore the thread. and with topics such as "is 125k enough to live on in Basel" they're not hard to spot and avoid.

It's original thread title was "Info needed" (hard to avoid) but fortunately one of the Mods changed it.

[PlantHead]

When you have all been around longer and got greyer hair and more wisdom, you will start to notice another trend and that is, threads that complain about threads dealing with the same topics, ad nauseum.

Back in my day when the forum was young and Politicians never philiandered all the threads were fresh and bright and new; everyone was happy and we all froliked along.
Then we got threads that dealt with the same topic over and over again, where can I get self-raising flour, why is Switzerland so much worse than my country, what permit will I get...and then a new darker trend began which caused much disharmony....the threads that complained about the threads which re-hased the same questions.
There was much nashing of teeth and wailing to the Gods and in the end we all realised that we don't really care and it all goes around and around, younger excited members join and find the same annoyances and problems that the old grisled hardened forumers have already accepted.

[Gastro Gnome]

What we need is some kind of Swiss expat budget web app.

You input:

Expected Salary
Single/Couple/Family
Number of kids
Which town you'll be living in
International Organisation, yes/no?

The app then adds it all up, divides by the number you first though of and then issues a solemn judgement ranging from "Poor you, best renegotiate" to "Can I cadge a lift on your private jet?"

	Quote:	Rangatiranui
	I doubt this would stop people starting new threads - it seems to take some time before people learn to use the search engine (!)

Actually having such a sticky is a good idea. Anyone joining the forum should get a list of these crucial life changing stickies as part of the automated welcome message. It should include salary/lifestyle one, how speeding fines work here, the B permit processing time crystal ball hints, and whether spouses of various permit holders can work. And maybe one sticky just to explain how to use the search function and not clutter the forum .

Edit: Ok, GG has covered it already while I was typing!

[Chuff]

	Quote:	Gastro Gnome
	What we need is some kind of Swiss expat budget web app. You input: Expected Salary Single/Couple/Family Number of kids Which town you'll be living in International Organisation, yes/no? The app then adds it all up, divides by the number you first though of and then issues a solemn judgement ranging from "Poor you, best renegotiate" to "Can I cadge a lift on your private jet?"

Actually a damn good idea.

[Gastro Gnome]

	Quote:	Chuff
	Actually a damn good idea.

Thanks!

Actually the app's judgement/advice could be determined by your family status, e.g.

Single on ???k - You will have enough for weekend drinks, the occasional meal out and some skiing trips
Family on ???k - You will have enough for some family skiing trips

There is a kind of application where people can find such information...it is called Google. This is a bit of a tangent, but any one who wants to take the effort could find the average salary list by industry from the Swiss government, do a mock shopping trip on the Migros Web site, and find out the average rental costs in XYZ municipality.

Likewise reading the forum for enough time will get you this info. Some people like to give up too easily.

[Chuff]

	Quote:	Gastro Gnome
	Thanks! Actually the app's judgement/advice could be determined by your family status, e.g. Single on ???k - You will have enough for weekend drinks, the occasional meal out and some skiing trips Family on ???k - You will have enough for some family skiing trips

Other options:

Single on ???:

Can afford monthly visit to Swiss brothel.
Can afford Swiss girlfriend.
Can afford to drink spirits.

Family on ???:

Husband can afford monthly visit to Swiss brothel.
Husband can afford wife and kid.
Husband can afford impending divorce.

The possibilities are endless.

Something like this: Relocating to Switzerland - how I did it [EU citizen, logistics, ideas & info]?

[monkeynut]

	Quote:	oakley3
	There is a kind of application where people can find such information...it is called Google. This is a bit of a tangent, but any one who wants to take the effort could find the average salary list by industry from the Swiss government, do a mock shopping trip on the Migros Web site, and find out the average rental costs in XYZ municipality. Likewise reading the forum for enough time will get you this info. Some people like to give up too easily.

thats all very well, but how would one go about even finding this google?