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Old 24.11.2010, 10:50
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Buying glasses online.

I stumbled across this website and are tempted to buy a pair of sports glasses incl. corrective lenses for less than $70.

Anyone here who has any experience with this particular web shop?
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Old 24.11.2010, 20:05
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Re: Buying glasses online.

I wouldn't try it Elgg, when glasses are made for you the distance between the eyes is measured precisely.
They could give you a headache if they were not adapted to your needs.

I suppose if they were needed for reading during short periods of time, I'd be tempted to also by them online, but not for regular use.

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Old 25.11.2010, 11:18
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I wouldn't try it Elgg, when glasses are made for you the distance between the eyes is measured precisely.
They could give you a headache if they were not adapted to your needs.

I suppose if they were needed for reading during short periods of time, I'd be tempted to also by them online, but not for regular use.

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Measuring the distances between the eyes, known as the Pupillary Distance, is not very difficult and can be measured by yourself with a ruler in front of a mirror. I did it the other day before I went into McOptik to buy a pair of sports glasses. It was measure in the store as well and we came to the same result

Anyway....I did place an order at the web shop. For $78 incl. shipping I am willing to give it a go. I bought a pair of (Adidas) sports glasses in McOptik also which ended up at CHF 390.

Such a big difference in price needs to be challenged by a comparison.
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Re: Buying glasses online.

interesting. I'd be curious to hear your experience. I recently got a new pair for a low price of 300 chf. For an online price like that it may be an idea to even have a backup pair.
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Re: Buying glasses online.

I use glasses direct in the uk 2 pairs for less then the cost of 1 lens here, unfortunatly they only deliver to uk addresses so I had to get the forwarded onto me.
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Re: Buying glasses online.

how do you know how they look on you? It takes me hours to choose in the store, how would you know online? Can you get model number and try it on in a local shop?
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how do you know how they look on you? It takes me hours to choose in the store, how would you know online? Can you get model number and try it on in a local shop?

I just got ones that looked more or less the same as the ones I had already, for the price I was willing to take the chance, got 1 normal pair and a pair of polorized sunglasses for about 60 all in iirc.
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how do you know how they look on you? It takes me hours to choose in the store, how would you know online? Can you get model number and try it on in a local shop?
I don't. The glasses I ordered are sports glasses so I will only use them while on my bicycle and believe me......I look totally Goofy with all me bike gear such as reflective jacket, helmet and what not so a pair of glasses will not add any funny surprises.

However, on the web site you can upload your picture and "try on" the different frames but if that comes close to what you will look like in real life...? I doubt it.
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Re: Buying glasses online.

Just to update.

I cancelled my order.

They had put my order on hold due to some "credit card issues". They wrote they would call me but nothing happened. After 3 days I called them instead and they said that my order was made from a UK IP address and since I live in CH thay just wanted to be sure I was not a crook (which I appriciate). However, how can they be sure after I gave them some of the CC info and my address on the phone, still puzzles me though, cause if I had a stolen card in use while ordering, I would only repeat the information from the card and my address...or?

However, my order would be processed now they said but 2 days later they wrote me again and this time the poly carbonate lens I ordered was out of stock.....(!?) so I had to choose another material for the lenses.

Huh....? I guess I am not very patient when it comes to waiting for stuff from the interweb, so I cancelled.

They wrote me back that I will receive a refund (!?).....huh again?

If they have to make a refund it means that my card was already charged - yeah?

Dealing with someone who charge my CC prior to even sending out the stuff is not my thing, so I will not go back.
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............ so I will not go back.
Well.....I did go back

I really needed a pair of sun glasses with corrective lenses (progressive) so I went back and ordered 2 pair of glasses - one pair without tinted lenses and one pair 80% tinted.

I ordered on June 5th. and received my new glasses directly from China yesterday i.e. 10 days delivery time. I was curious to see if they would look/feel to be cheap or bad quality but I must say that I was in for a surprise.

Both pair of glasses were flawless in terms of the finishing and they both seems to fit my (bulky) head perfect......that's me -->

It is of course not possible to judge the quality of the frame in a long term perspective before after some month of use but so far I am pretty impressed.

I paid as little as US $ 180 (incl. shipping) for two pair of glasses with "thin & light" progressive lenses incl. anti glare, anti scratch and UV protection on one pair and 80% tinted lenses on the other.

In my world that is a real bargain. Both came with protective cover and cloth for cleaning. When I bought new glasses last year I paid approx. CHF 1000 for one pair

The important thing to do before buying glasses online is of course to have a eye test made at a local optician. With the prescription and an old pair of glasses (on which you can read the key measurements of the frame) in hand, buying glasses online is not risky at all in my opinion.

When your local optician order your glasses he sent the exact same information to his supplier as the online store does, so the outcome will be the same. If you however feel that an optician must check/adjust your new glasses, I am sure he/she is willing to do that for a relatively* small fee.

*It is Switzerland after all so I do not know if the term "small fee" can be used.

If you decide to try it out the code IFU3FSSVDD will cut off 15% on your first order.

Disclaimer: For "promoting" this site I will receive $5 for every order made using this code. If this reward comes out as free glasses or real money I don't know and it is not important to me. If it comes out as money, I will save it for drinks in ZH with fellow EF's. In fact....I am not really promoting this online shop but just informing you about my experience with buying glasses online and giving you the option to save an additional 15% on already extreme low prices.....okay?

Peace man....
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Old 16.06.2011, 13:28
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Well.....I did go back

I really needed a pair of sun glasses with corrective lenses (progressive) so I went back and ordered 2 pair of glasses - one pair without tinted lenses and one pair 80% tinted.

I ordered on June 5th. and received my new glasses directly from China yesterday i.e. 10 days delivery time. I was curious to see if they would look/feel to be cheap or bad quality but I must say that I was in for a surprise.

Both pair of glasses were flawless in terms of the finishing and they both seems to fit my (bulky) head perfect......that's me -->

It is of course not possible to judge the quality of the frame in a long term perspective before after some month of use but so far I am pretty impressed.

I paid as little as US $ 180 (incl. shipping) for two pair of glasses with "thin & light" progressive lenses incl. anti glare, anti scratch and UV protection on one pair and 80% tinted lenses on the other.

In my world that is a real bargain. Both came with protective cover and cloth for cleaning. When I bought new glasses last year I paid approx. CHF 1000 for one pair

The important thing to do before buying glasses online is of course to have a eye test made at a local optician. With the prescription and an old pair of glasses (on which you can read the key measurements of the frame) in hand, buying glasses online is not risky at all in my opinion.

When your local optician order your glasses he sent the exact same information to his supplier as the online store does, so the outcome will be the same. If you however feel that an optician must check/adjust your new glasses, I am sure he/she is willing to do that for a relatively* small fee.

*It is Switzerland after all so I do not know if the term "small fee" can be used.

If you decide to try it out the code IFU3FSSVDD will cut off 15% on your first order.

Disclaimer: For "promoting" this site I will receive $5 for every order made using this code. If this reward comes out as free glasses or real money I don't know and it is not important to me. If it comes out as money, I will save it for drinks in ZH with fellow EF's. In fact....I am not really promoting this online shop but just informing you about my experience with buying glasses online and giving you the option to save an additional 15% on already extreme low prices.....okay?

Peace man....
I'm glad for you that you are happy with your purchase, I do not wish to burst your bubble at all BUT that "not risky at all" is something that is not really for you to say.

As someone who has been certified as an Optician in the US, I will say that it IS a risky proposition - which isn't to say that the risks are high, just that they exist. Each thing you either need or decide that makes your glasses purchase more "complicated" increases the risk.

Progressives need to be measured precisely to your eyes for a specific frame... can you get by with them measured not exactly perfectly? Sure, some people can, not everyone though. Yes, using old glasses as a guideline helps to some extent but it isn't entirely accurate.

Thin and light also is a feature that requires precise measurement for a specific frame and again, can be deduced to some extent via an old frame but also again, isn't entirely accurate. The prescription strengths that would most benefit from this type of lens go hand in hand with the necessity for the wearer to have things done very specifically for them... the higher the prescription, the more precise things should be for best vision.

The frame itself is also a big thing, whether it fits correctly (within adjustable means) in the first place, whether the material is suitable for you and for your prescription. Some people have higher salts and acids in their skin, they don't do well with metal frames aside from titanium, some people have allergies and sensitivities to some frame materials.

ALL of these things are best done with an Optician right there with you. Getting an EXACT duplicate online has very minimal risk, otherwise, the risk increases. Of course, for most people this isn't a "life or death" situation so really, the risks are not terrible, but they are there.


So, as I've said before in similar threads, buying glasses online as a backup isn't a bad idea, getting them that way as your main (or only) pair can be a very bad idea.
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Old 16.06.2011, 14:57
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I'm glad for you that you are happy with your purchase, I do not wish to burst your bubble at all BUT that "not risky at all" is something that is not really for you to say.

As someone who has been certified as an Optician in the US, I will say that it IS a risky proposition - which isn't to say that the risks are high, just that they exist. Each thing you either need or decide that makes your glasses purchase more "complicated" increases the risk.

Progressives need to be measured precisely to your eyes for a specific frame... can you get by with them measured not exactly perfectly? Sure, some people can, not everyone though. Yes, using old glasses as a guideline helps to some extent but it isn't entirely accurate.

Thin and light also is a feature that requires precise measurement for a specific frame and again, can be deduced to some extent via an old frame but also again, isn't entirely accurate. The prescription strengths that would most benefit from this type of lens go hand in hand with the necessity for the wearer to have things done very specifically for them... the higher the prescription, the more precise things should be for best vision.

The frame itself is also a big thing, whether it fits correctly (within adjustable means) in the first place, whether the material is suitable for you and for your prescription. Some people have higher salts and acids in their skin, they don't do well with metal frames aside from titanium, some people have allergies and sensitivities to some frame materials.

ALL of these things are best done with an Optician right there with you. Getting an EXACT duplicate online has very minimal risk, otherwise, the risk increases. Of course, for most people this isn't a "life or death" situation so really, the risks are not terrible, but they are there.


So, as I've said before in similar threads, buying glasses online as a backup isn't a bad idea, getting them that way as your main (or only) pair can be a very bad idea.
Thank you for your input. I guess a precise definition of the word risk/risky would be a good idea in order to state "not risky at all" or "risky" og even "very risky".

I do understand that a certified optician often dislikes the possibility for people to buy fair priced glasses (online or offline) as this is a genuine thread to their business. Many years ago when the first discount optician opened a shop in Denmark, the "established" opticians did everything in their power to bring miscredit to his name and business as he exposed the major margins in the business. As an engineer I do know that the cost price for a 12 g. titanium frame is way below the CHF 600 retail price.

Anyway. As long as I buy glasses with lenses made after a prescription I had made from a local optician and I chose a frame with the same physical measurements as my old glasses, I see no significant risk. When I bought my old glasses (for CHF 1000) the optician just handed them to me in the shop and checked nothing and made no corrections. In other words....same service to these new glasses bought at the local optician as the DHL guy offered when handed over the package.

I know that most opticians will check your vision with your new glasses and make sure they fit, but apart from adjusting a bit here and there....I don't see what difference they really makes. However, maybe the optician feel that after he/she have squeezed my money out of me, he/she must provide that little extra that makes me feel a valued customer.

I prefer to feel the value of 850 CHF in my pocket though.

Naturally I will not recommend any one to buy glasses online if they don't have glasses already and have a proper prescription.

I do not mean to offend anyone and certainly not the opticians, but when you can save as much as 70-80 % by byuing glasses online, the opticians certainly ask for the competition.
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Re: Buying glasses online.

I have to agree, I've been wearing glasses for 35 or so years, I can count on one finger the number of time an optician has 'fitted' my glasses when they arrived, and like ElggDK I now use online shops for buying them, 2 pairs for the same price as a single lens here.

whats the worst that can happen? the new glasses give you a headache.

isn't the guy who started specsavers in the uk now one of the uk's richest people, also a women who started a budget opticians is one of the uk's richest women, so even offering massive discounts still leaves a huge margin.

iirc the bbc did an expose of opticians recently, costs of lenses was pennies regardless of type etc, frames the same
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Hello Sky

I bought a pair of (Adidas) sports glasses in McOptik also which ended up at CHF 390.

Such a big difference in price needs to be challenged by a comparison.
Passing down these Notes to McOptik should elecit some response - please
share it with us.

I sent my Prescription with a friend travelling to Colombo last year and
he brought me a varifocal specks for only Chf. 160.00 ! There is nothing
below chf. 500 for a bifocal in CH?
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I have to agree, I've been wearing glasses for 35 or so years, I can count on one finger the number of time an optician has 'fitted' my glasses when they arrived, and like ElggDK I now use online shops for buying them, 2 pairs for the same price as a single lens here.

whats the worst that can happen? the new glasses give you a headache.

isn't the guy who started specsavers in the uk now one of the uk's richest people, also a women who started a budget opticians is one of the uk's richest women, so even offering massive discounts still leaves a huge margin.

iirc the bbc did an expose of opticians recently, costs of lenses was pennies regardless of type etc, frames the same
Yes, for most people the worst that can happen is that they get a bit of a headache, for some though, it is worse than that. As I said, the risk isn't a case of "life or death" but it IS a risk - personally, I'd rather do without a massive headache or a skin rash from poor frame choice or aching (and worse) nose and ears from poor lens / frame matchup.

Yes, there is high markup on glasses, I'd offer though that any consumer good has a high profit margin as well. Back when the Opticians only had ten styles to choose from in three colors glasses were cheap, these days they can be a fashionable statement while also being a medical device at the same time. Fashion costs money.

The craftsmanship of online vs in-house can be the same, that's not the part I dispute. IF you pick a frame that you HAVE tried on AND you have a local Optician (wherever "local" happens to be, so even when traveling) take the required measurements in that EXACT frame after adjusting it to fit properly in the first place, the risks are very minimal, even ordering it online.

The problem comes in with making frame selection "willy nilly" because it looks good, never trying it on, not necessarily making sure the size is going to be correct, not making sure the materials work (just like jewelry, inexpensive frames contain nickel, to which many people have sensitivities or allergies), etc etc.

So, no, what I'm saying IS NOT "don't go to discount /online optical shops ever" but rather make sure you do EVERYTHING as if you were buying them in person first. Find the same frame locally, have an optician (or other trained staff member) make adjustments and take the proper measurements AND THEN order them online if that's how you wish to make the purchase. That's it.



How odd it is to me that people on this forum explain and explain why Expert Job X deserves to be paid six figure incomes and yet "advice" is given to throw money in ways that takes money away from Expert Job Y. So many on this forum enjoy their fancy jobs with fancy paychecks, guess what? Opticians deserve the fancy paychecks they get here just as much as you guys do. The reasoning for higher costs here compared to elsewhere is the same whether we're discussing glasses or whatever other product or job you wish to compare.
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How odd it is to me that people on this forum explain and explain why Expert Job X deserves to be paid six figure incomes and yet "advice" is given to throw money in ways that takes money away from Expert Job Y. So many on this forum enjoy their fancy jobs with fancy paychecks, guess what? Opticians deserve the fancy paychecks they get here just as much as you guys do. The reasoning for higher costs here compared to elsewhere is the same whether we're discussing glasses or whatever other product or job you wish to compare.

I can cope with double the price here, but buying my glasses online is 10 times cheaper then buying from an opticians here, its really a no brainer. now if someone was to offer me 10x my last uk salary then I'd pay the prices here

actually thinking about it, I got 2 pairs online for 10th of the price as I paid for 1 pair here
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Yes, for most people the worst that can happen is that they get a bit of a headache, for some though, it is worse than that. As I said, the risk isn't a case of "life or death" but it IS a risk - personally, I'd rather do without a massive headache or a skin rash from poor frame choice or aching (and worse) nose and ears from poor lens / frame matchup.

Yes, there is high markup on glasses, I'd offer though that any consumer good has a high profit margin as well. Back when the Opticians only had ten styles to choose from in three colors glasses were cheap, these days they can be a fashionable statement while also being a medical device at the same time. Fashion costs money.

The craftsmanship of online vs in-house can be the same, that's not the part I dispute. IF you pick a frame that you HAVE tried on AND you have a local Optician (wherever "local" happens to be, so even when traveling) take the required measurements in that EXACT frame after adjusting it to fit properly in the first place, the risks are very minimal, even ordering it online.

The problem comes in with making frame selection "willy nilly" because it looks good, never trying it on, not necessarily making sure the size is going to be correct, not making sure the materials work (just like jewelry, inexpensive frames contain nickel, to which many people have sensitivities or allergies), etc etc.

So, no, what I'm saying IS NOT "don't go to discount /online optical shops ever" but rather make sure you do EVERYTHING as if you were buying them in person first. Find the same frame locally, have an optician (or other trained staff member) make adjustments and take the proper measurements AND THEN order them online if that's how you wish to make the purchase. That's it.



How odd it is to me that people on this forum explain and explain why Expert Job X deserves to be paid six figure incomes and yet "advice" is given to throw money in ways that takes money away from Expert Job Y. So many on this forum enjoy their fancy jobs with fancy paychecks, guess what? Opticians deserve the fancy paychecks they get here just as much as you guys do. The reasoning for higher costs here compared to elsewhere is the same whether we're discussing glasses or whatever other product or job you wish to compare.
Apart from the headache and rash risk there is a risk of spending money on stuff you cannot use. However, as my two pair of glasses cost the same or even less as a (short) night out with the girl friend I am sure that I will survive.

I understand your comment about the expert/income/margin issue but in my view it is not like that. I do not mind paying good money for experts but how difficult can it be to purchase a low priced Gant frame and add a huge margin? I guess I paid for the expert when I paid CHF 46 for the eye test - yeah?

The margins for products like designer frames and designer clothing are extremely high. The cost price for a designer frame are not any different than for a no name frame made of the same materials. High profiled names/designs cost money.....that is how it is.

Recently I saw a list of the richest people/families in Denmark and all the newly rich (i.e. people who became rich themselves and not because of a rich family) are all within the clothing or eye glass frames business. No wonder.
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Today I went shopping for glasses with progressive lenses for and with my girl friend. CHF 1576,-

I rest my case.

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Re: Buying glasses online.

This is really tempting, but how do you know if the frame suits you ?
I usually try on the whole store.

Couldn't find on the site whether they make extra thin glass lenses.. mmmm... I've kept my glasses for many years, so I'm interested in a new pair.
dunno yet..
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Re: Buying glasses online.

I always buy my glasses from Asia, whenever I am there. It's way cheaper and you get it way faster than here. I paid once for a pair of glasses for 800 chf. I have really bad eyes, so the lenses need to be super thin...I also always order my contact lenses online...
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