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[Social networking] Facebook phenomenon?

I just wondered if anyone else was as baffled as I am, by the current obsession with Facebook. A friend of mine said that I should join, so I could view some photo's he took whilst visiting me in Zurich - I did so, and I'm just blown away by the time and effort he, and plenty of others like him, put into their profile. It certainly seems to go far beyond the reasoning I've had from one or two people, which is 'oooh, it just helps me stay in touch with my friends'.

What do people think the real motivations are for people on Facebook? Who do they do it for? I can't imagine that they would still do it, if nobody would ever see it - so why so keen to show others the details of their lives. I have telephone, email, and Messenger, and yet, I'm being asked to write messages on an imaginary wall, so others can see it.

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Re: [Social networking] Facebook phenomenon?

I've shortened the title a little so we get to Facebook more quickly.

Cack. It's like being self-obsessed on an internet forum without the chatback. I could do it by banning you lot but where's the fun in that?
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Vanity. The same applies to most personal blogs.

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I've shortened the title a little so we get to Facebook more quickly.

Cack. It's like being self-obsessed on an internet forum without the chatback. I could do it by banning you lot but where's the fun in that?
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Vanity. The same applies to most personal blogs.

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what about anonymous blogs? Would you say the same there?
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Think of a masked ball. Vanity with added mystique. Most posters on the forum are pretty anonymous in any case. We still flex our non-inconsiderable egos occasionally. I dont of course, because I am too important for that.

I said personal blogs to distinguish from news or technical blogs, where the message is more important than the messenger considers himself to be.

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Re: [Social networking] Facebook phenomenon?

Hm. I find it hard to defend my Facebook membership. Originally it happened, because I was moving here and I wanted an easy way to keep in touch with people I knew in the UK - I signed up to a site called WAYN (where are you now) and 90% of my mates said "yeah nice idea, but I won't be joining cos I'm already on Facebook" - so, I joined it.

And then, as time goes on, and they say "wow why don't you add this little feature" etc etc, it's now at a point where my "rarely to be used communication device" lists who of my friends are my "top friends", it has a "fun" wall where people can put pictures or videos, an area where I can rate what movies I have seen / want to see, and even a fortune cookie.

All this, and very little in the way of actual communication goes on.

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Re: [Social networking] Facebook phenomenon?

Yeah I've had to join Bebo, Facebook, and MySpace just to see photo's, and I've had an invite to WAYN - what absolute bo***cks it all is.
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Re: [Social networking] Facebook phenomenon?

I heard you're a WAYN king
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Re: [Social networking] Facebook phenomenon?

If I get asked any more times to write on an imaginary wall - then I may just become an imaginary friend.

WAYN? What can I say, my mother didn't hug me enough - and I had to make do with a Commodore Vic 20, when all my mates had 64's.
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Re: [Social networking] Facebook phenomenon?

Ha, funny to read this post now.
Just about an hour ago I received an invitation by a friend in Sydney to join Facebook. I had actually never heard of it...

I must say myspace is annoying enough with all rubbish invites from g** knows who, but myspace 'and' facebook.....I'm just not sure about any of them....

I think that a good reason to have a facebook profile would be to keep in touch with friends abroad. Hmmm, I'll have to look into it further to see what the wall is all about.
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Old 20.07.2007, 17:51
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Re: [Social networking] Facebook phenomenon?

completely crap, annoying, boring.

i do know all the folks i want to know and i am in regular contact with most of them.no use for me. none of these myspace or facebook people do have to say or show something im interested in beside of musicians (e.g. i like jarvis cockers myspace side, because he "speaks" directly to his fans over this medium... thats nice). and so do i! the inner circle of friends has all basic info what im up to, thats enough.
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Re: [Social networking] Facebook phenomenon?

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Think of a masked ball. Vanity with added mystique. Most posters on the forum are pretty anonymous in any case. We still flex our non-inconsiderable egos occasionally. I dont of course, because I am too important for that.

I said personal blogs to distinguish from news or technical blogs, where the message is more important than the messenger considers himself to be.

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Dave you'll probably enjoy this article from Fridays Gruniad ...

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Re: [Social networking] Facebook phenomenon?

Hmmmm. Mainstream media dying under the weight of Facebook???? No such luck.....
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Re: [Social networking] Facebook phenomenon?

Well, if I need a social platform to keep in touch with former colleagues, I use xing (www.xing.com). It's perfect for sharing business and private contacts and also offers you to find/search for businesses... nothing fancy like the photo-sharing or "I like this or that music" crap thing...
Also linkedIn (www.linkedin.com) should be quite ok for such purposes, but this website seems to me too cluttered and unorganized; they are kind of missing the point.
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Re: [Social networking] Facebook phenomenon?

I've found Xing to be very disappointing. For certain fields of work it might be a good way to network and keep in touch with some people at a professional level - but in my line of work (engineering) it's crap. I'll be letting my membership expire when it next comes around.

Hype aside, Facebook has been very useful for me. I left Australia almost 4 years ago and I have friends scattered all over the world - so I've lost touch with a lot of people (even some of my closest friends). With this it has become a lot easier to get back in touch, even with people that I had long lost contact with while I was still at home.

There are a lot of crappy add-ons that need to be avoided. But sharing info about music, books etc. is not really anything egotistical. Many of my friends and I have always recommended books and movies to each other - this just facilitates that.
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I've found Xing to be very disappointing. For certain fields of work it might be a good way to network and keep in touch with some people at a professional level - but in my line of work (engineering) it's crap. I'll be letting my membership expire when it next comes around.

Hype aside, Facebook has been very useful for me. I left Australia almost 4 years ago and I have friends scattered all over the world - so I've lost touch with a lot of people (even some of my closest friends). With this it has become a lot easier to get back in touch, even with people that I had long lost contact with while I was still at home.

There are a lot of crappy add-ons that need to be avoided. But sharing info about music, books etc. is not really anything egotistical. Many of my friends and I have always recommended books and movies to each other - this just facilitates that.
I have also found Xing to be less than useful as far as professional networking goes, LinkedIn I have found to be of the best value, have contacted a bunch of new people on there that have led to plenty of new business.
Social networking I keep to Facebook, as I feel it has a more community based feel than MySpace or any of the others. Actually have a number of EF rogues that I'm connected to on there, Ginger & otherwise.
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Re: [Social networking] Facebook phenomenon?

I like this article you have referenced as it contains some little rubies inthe dust...



"The main thrust of his argument is that all this home-made content - blogs, podcasts, amateur videos and music - is an inadequate replacement for mainstream media. It may be a harmless, even occasionally enriching addition, but we can't have both, because the former is swiftly killing off the latter. "

I found the following especially well-put:

"His attack even encompasses one of the web's more widely admired experiments - Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia written and edited by anyone who wants to have a go, on the principle that the crowd possesses an aggregate wisdom all of its own. "To my mind Wikipedia is not wise," says Keen. "It's dumb. Not necessarily because all its contributors are dumb, but because if you don't have an editor in charge, and you don't have singular voices, then the intellectual quality of what the crowd produces is very low."

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I like this article you have referenced as it contains some little rubies inthe dust...
I found the following especially well-put:

"His attack even encompasses one of the web's more widely admired experiments - Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia written and edited by anyone who wants to have a go, on the principle that the crowd possesses an aggregate wisdom all of its own. "To my mind Wikipedia is not wise," says Keen. "It's dumb. Not necessarily because all its contributors are dumb, but because if you don't have an editor in charge, and you don't have singular voices, then the intellectual quality of what the crowd produces is very low."

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& the reaction to this sort of criticism :

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To earn this trusted status, users will have to show some commitment to Wikipedia, by making 30 edits in 30 days, say. Other users will have to wait until a trusted editor has given the article a brief look, enough to confirm that the edit is not vandalism, before their changes can be viewed by readers.
Full article at TCMnet
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Social networking I keep to Facebook, as I feel it has a more community based feel than MySpace or any of the others. Actually have a number of EF rogues that I'm connected to on there, Ginger & otherwise.
I never had myself pegged as being a "rogue"....but I quite like it
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Re: [Social networking] Facebook phenomenon?

I joined facebook at the behest of several friends. How I wish I hadn't. It seems to me to be a total time sucker upper. I can look to see how many friends I have in common with a couple of friends, I can send them a drink (why on earth would I want to send someone a pretend drink?) I have been slapped, pinched and licked by my friends. I don't understand it to be honest and I don't respond to any of the postings now. I am a miserable moo though and perhaps I should get out more
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