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Ouchboy 07.01.2011 11:15

Facebook and suicide
 
Apparently, a lady announced she took a large amount of pills and was going to die, and nobody helped.

*shrug

here is the link:

http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news...-no-one-helped

EDIT: LINK EDITED

Kinda sucks to hear this, but then again that seems to be human nature.

kevlegs 07.01.2011 11:18

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
Some reason I just get a blank screen from the link...shrug

Ouchboy 07.01.2011 11:24

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kevlegs (Post 1061717)
Some reason I just get a blank screen from the link...shrug

I edited the link for ya :)

Phil_MCR 07.01.2011 11:38

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
but how many of her 'friends' 'liked' her status update? :msntongue: /bad taste, i know.../

actually, i saw my first FB suicide note last year.

Ouchboy 07.01.2011 11:41

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil_MCR (Post 1061740)
but how many of her 'friends' 'liked' her status update? :msntongue: /bad taste, i know.../

actually, i saw my first FB suicide note last year.

That is just plain weird. My first reaction to a FB note would be: " well this is just a cry for attention" not a real suicide attempt. But it seems that this also gets people killed.

Just makes you ponder how many of your FB "friends" are really your friends.?

summerrain 07.01.2011 11:41

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
Read some where in the link that a friend of hers said "'She ODs all the time and she lies.'"

That is really sad if a friend thinks that about you. You're nothing but a drama-queen playing on peoples emotions, and I guess if you cry wolf that many times, you will be ignored. :(

FB is full of such garbage. I read angsty drama-queen messages of friends daily, bitching moaning about their lives and work - I've learnt to ignore and hide some of peoples status updates. :D


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ouchboy (Post 1061743)

Just makes you ponder how many of your FB "friends" are really your friends.?

I wouldnt call all of them "friends but yes, people on my list are people I want to keep in my life. Most of them are family, old school friends, ex colleagues and ex-industry work mates, clients whom I want to keep in touch with for professional reasons.

TheWolverine 07.01.2011 11:45

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ouchboy (Post 1061743)
Just makes you ponder how many of your FB "friends" are really your friends.?

I think you are confusing the Internet with....I don't know...real life ?

Peg A 07.01.2011 11:46

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
I'm not surprised either by the "suicide note" or the apparent tone of some of the responses (some positive - trying to help - and some negative) as I've seen all of that on gamer forums for years now.

Blizzard actually has a response protocol for anything like that and if anyone posts a "suicide note" on their forums (or discusses in game for that matter), they immediately call the police in the person's area.

Too bad it sounds like none of the friends of the woman in question thought to actually call the police in her area.

Ouchboy 07.01.2011 11:48

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ashishshah (Post 1061751)
I think you are confusing the Internet with....I don't know...real life ?

It is somewhat obvious to me that anybody who posts a suicide note on the internet more or less considers internet... real life.

Phil_MCR 07.01.2011 11:56

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ouchboy (Post 1061743)
That is just plain weird. My first reaction to a FB note would be: " well this is just a cry for attention" not a real suicide attempt. But it seems that this also gets people killed.

Just makes you ponder how many of your FB "friends" are really your friends.?

i normally just add people i know/want to keep updated with on FB, but sometimes you can see things posted by friends of friends.

Peg A 07.01.2011 11:58

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ouchboy (Post 1061743)
That is just plain weird. My first reaction to a FB note would be: " well this is just a cry for attention" not a real suicide attempt. But it seems that this also gets people killed.

Just makes you ponder how many of your FB "friends" are really your friends.?

If she has "friends" with the sort of attitude that is exemplified by the comment which Summerrain referenced, that certainly isn't going to help her with her suicidal feelings.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ashishshah (Post 1061751)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ouchboy (Post 1061743)
Just makes you ponder how many of your FB "friends" are really your friends.?

I think you are confusing the Internet with....I don't know...real life ?

On the contrary ashishshah, I think you are confusing the convenience of proximity with real connection in relationships.

There are plenty of people who stay connected with old friends through the internet these days, there also are plenty who gained a friendship connection via internet.

As one example, think of how many people on this forum initially "met" through the internet and then went on to actually meet in person... at what point would you say the friendship was forged?

Perhaps it was strengthened by meeting in person but certainly meeting someone is person is no guarantee of a close friendship bond (one caring enough to act on a suicide threat) either.


Of course, my own thoughts on this come from long experience of "meeting" people online and then also meeting them in person. I have friends all over Florida that I know I could turn to if I'm ever truly in trouble and I "met" them first through AOL.


Anyhow, regarding the happening itself... it's sad and a shame to lose someone to suicide at all, hopefully it is a bit of a "wake up call" for those who are newer to that sort of "experience" of seeing suicide notes / threats online that even though it is in the "fake" (:rolleyes:) world of the internet, it should still be taken seriously.

TheWolverine 07.01.2011 12:10

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peg A (Post 1061763)
On the contrary ashishshah, I think you are confusing the convenience of proximity with real connection in relationships.

The point I was trying to make here is that FB friends / Chat Friends / AOL Friends come in two ways :

1. People you already know who also happen to be online and become FB etc... friends after you have already known/met them.

2. Random people who you befriend on the internet.

People in 1 were already friends so lets not talk about that.
However, people in 2 are what we are discussing here, IMHO.

And your thought about meeting people online; Its not that you cannot meet people on the internet. Its just that friendships that exist in the realm of the internet seldom tend to be real.

About us here, its a fact worth pointing out that we meet up (although I have not been much active there lately) and so the friendships move from the internet to real life.

In my opinion, you only know truly about people once you meet them in the flesh. I think you will agree that a lot of smooth talking people on forums are not so "great" once you meet them in person.

TheWolverine 07.01.2011 12:12

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ouchboy (Post 1061756)
It is somewhat obvious to me that anybody who posts a suicide note on the internet more or less considers internet... real life.

And therein lies the rub.

Peg A 07.01.2011 12:17

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ashishshah (Post 1061778)
The point I was trying to make here is that FB friends / Chat Friends / AOL Friends come in two ways :

1. People you already know who also happen to be online and become FB etc... friends after you have already known/met them.

2. Random people who you befriend on the internet.

People in 1 were already friends so lets not talk about that.
However, people in 2 are what we are discussing here, IMHO.

And your thought about meeting people online; Its not that you cannot meet people on the internet. Its just that friendships that exist in the realm of the internet seldom tend to be real.

About us here, its a fact worth pointing out that we meet up (although I have not been much active there lately) and so the friendships move from the internet to real life.

In my opinion, you only know truly about people once you meet them in the flesh.
I think you will agree that a lot of smooth talking people on forums are not so "great" once you meet them in person.

While this is true to some extent, it is not entirely accurate.

Some people are the same online as they are in person. Some people, even in person, are less than they make themselves out to be.

So, yes, I do agree that the connection "fails" to complete in a face-to-face meeting sometimes with someone initially encountered via the internet BUT lack of face time isn't necessarily the litmus test of a worthy connection.

TheWolverine 07.01.2011 12:25

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peg A (Post 1061789)
While this is true to some extent, it is not entirely accurate.

Some people are the same online as they are in person. Some people, even in person, are less than they make themselves out to be.

So, yes, I do agree that the connection "fails" to complete in a face-to-face meeting sometimes with someone initially encountered via the internet BUT lack of face time isn't necessarily the litmus test of a worthy connection.

Agreed.
But in most cases, friends who are really "tight" are the ones you meet for real.
Anyhow, I guess its based on experience and mindset.

Nickers 07.01.2011 12:38

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by summerrain (Post 1061744)
FB is full of such garbage. I read angsty drama-queen messages of friends daily, bitching moaning about their lives and work - I've learnt to ignore and hide some of peoples status updates. :D


I'm gonna stick you on 'hide' then ;) :D :p

summerrain 07.01.2011 13:00

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 1061809)
I'm gonna stick you on 'hide' then ;) :D :p

Ouch!

I thought my angsty messages are only football related. :(

PaddyG 07.01.2011 13:04

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
Out of curiosity, has anyone ever posted such a message on EF? I'm sure there are some attention-seeking drama queens on here who wouldn't think twice about it...

summerrain 07.01.2011 13:10

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PaddyG (Post 1061848)
Out of curiosity, has anyone ever posted such a message on EF? I'm sure there are some attention-seeking drama queens on here who wouldn't think twice about it...

You mean you missed a corker of this thread?
http://www.englishforum.ch/daily-lif...ds-casino.html

PaddyG 07.01.2011 13:12

Re: Facebook and suicide
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by summerrain (Post 1061858)
You mean you missed a corker of this thread?
http://www.englishforum.ch/daily-lif...ds-casino.html

Ah yes, of course. I did see that, but it didn't stick in my mind for some reason (I actually restrained from posting a link to Dignitas, which I thought was very noble of me)


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