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Fishing across the border ( France )

Hello all,

I am aware this a forum about Switzerland, but since this country has very strict and expensive rules about fishing, i was wondering what the rules are to fish in France.

I know about the in my eyes silly rules of Switzerland, even had a rant about it, no way i'm going to do all that for a hobby.

I want to go fishing in a lake, pay some money for it so when friends come over,they can join me without doing a poxy test and paying silly money , this to be limited in what you can do thanks to a book of rules.

I live close enough to the French border and was hoping to see if anyone knows of a good lake.

France allows fishing if you buy a permit at 80 Euro per year, or 10 Euro per day. But i can't find anything as mad as the Swiss or German rules (being doing an exam , pay mad money and being picky of what bait you use to fish with, not allowing catch and release etc)

Is France easier? Can you just buy the permit and go fishing or are there any hidden rules i don't know of.

Do you need todo an exam, and be picky what you fish with ,can you catch and release etc etc..

And if all is "simple enough " , where is there a nearby lake on the French side that would allow fishing.

This is a last resort now before i sell my gear, but i'd love to keep it and go fishing again, even when it means driving an hour or even 2 across the border todo so.
Our boat in Ireland was also 2 hours away from our home, and trust me, every friday 5pm i was in the car and spriting for the Shannon

Many thanks in advance

Joey (frustrated because i can't go fishing )
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Re: Fishing across the border ( France )

Three sites which might help

A few words about fishing licences from a holiday firm.

Same again, different firm.

The French Fishing Federation.
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Re: Fishing across the border ( France )

I only have experience sea fishing with my family - and you don't need a licence for that. For lake & stream fishing, from what I know, you need to get a permit at the "Departement" level. For Alsace, this would be the Haut Rhin (Mulhouse area) and the Bas Rhin (Strasbourg). You can either get a yearly permit, or a permit for a specified amount of time, and you can buy it in fishing shops or local "bureau de tabac", depending on the area.

For everything you need to know about fishing in France: www.federationpeche.fr

For more Alsace-specific info: www.peche68.fr

This document highlights the regulations in Alsace (in French and German): www.peche68.fr/documents/GUIDE_de_PECHE.pdf
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Re: Fishing across the border ( France )

Thank you both, ill check it out.
Only problem is,once there..i don't speak any French

Yes a few words like baguette,jambon,fromage etc..great for a breakfast but not to obtain a fishing permit

None the less i will try them out.. there are 2 levels of fishing waters if i understand it right

Level one from March till September
Level two is all year round

But the info given so far is great, many thanks !
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Re: Fishing across the border ( France )

The view from an EasyJet window shows a lot of rivers near Basel.

I have spent 2 weeks on boating holidays near Gray in France on the river Saône. There is also the river Doubs which often forms a border with Switzerland. As you might know, where there is a lock on a river, there is usually also a waterfall fed by a large pond.

Gray might be a good place for you to start, as the Saône there is wide & there are a lot of city style docksides to fish from.

http://maps.google.ch/maps?hl=en&tab=wl Maybe go to St Louis and ask at a sports shop?

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Re: Fishing across the border ( France )

Thanks Ittigen

Few questions for you or who ever can help me, i see you only need a permit but there is a difference between Angeln and Fischen..what is it?

Happy to see they allow catch and release but a there are rules of what bait you can use and the size.

Can you use lures ( made of out of wood or rubber with one or 2 hooks)



I mainly just use a normal fishing rod with lures on it, so casting in and out.
Not just casting out and waiting for the line to go under..im an " active " fisher

Meanwhile im trying to find out what the boating rules are in France on lakes, i have a 4m rib with a 25hp outboard..i wonder if they allow that or not..
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Re: Fishing across the border ( France )

READ THE WHOLE MESSAGE before clicking to links, OTHERWISE, you'll spend more time on this than necessary.

This source states clearly that there is no exam. Just fees.
http://www.jcpoiret.com/bapw/index.h...cartepeche.htm

To get the card, it states that one has to go to the departmental fishing federation office and give this link:
http://www.federationpeche.fr/

Click on the gree map of France, then on the desired departement. That's for Haut-Rhin, but they are all there:
http://www.federationpeche.fr/68/


But actually, the better link is this one (I love French logic, it's an art form):
http://www.peche68.fr/

Clicking on CARTES brings you to a menu where it stansd that you can buy the licence online or go to a place for it:
http://www.peche68.fr/fr/cartes.html

The online thingie asks questions, you answer the first and the secon pups up, then the third and so on. Here are the questions:
Quelle est votre classe d'âge ? = age category
Vous souhaitez pêcher : = you wish to fish 1. all year 2. one day 3. two weeks
Possédez-vous déjà une CIH (Carte d'Identité Halieutique) ? = Do you already have this card (identity, registration card, not the licence) => no you don't.
Avez-vous déjà acquitté une CPMA (Cotisation Pour les Milieux Aquatiques) dans un autre département ? = ever had a licence card in another departement => No you had not.
Veuillez saisir les coordonnées du propriétaire de la carte : = your personal infos as to how they will be standing on the licence card and the fishing ID-card.

I stopped there... I am not the one who want to fish afterall.
Copy things here if you want to understand more.

The places to go are there for Haut-Rhin: http://www.peche68.fr/fr/magasins.html
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Old 09.01.2011, 05:19
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Re: Fishing across the border ( France )

Thanks Faltrad, you are not into fishing by any chance?

The link given is for the Upper Rhein,does it also count for the lakes around it?

Not sure why the site is only in French, they would do so much better putting it German being beside Germany and Switzerland, and in English..

If all fails,we have Falltrad and Google translate to the rescue

Do you know anything about boating rules in France?

i have a 4m rib with an outboard,is that allowed or are special permits needed also?

Switzerland allows you to go on a lake without licence with max 8 Hp, i have European licence up to 20T so don't think 15 or 25 Hp will be over the limit.

Just wonder if you need a permit for that als.

Any help is more then welcome as not evertyhing translated by google is 100 % right..leaving me wondering..

But no rush,the boat won't come out untill summer time, needs some work done first.

Important thing is, i can go fishing and anyone who wants to join me,feel free.
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Thanks Faltrad, you are not into fishing by any chance?
If you see me out there in the woods, call the police: it's a kidnapping, no way I am out there of my free will. The message above is an act of selflessness.

The words Haut-Rhin designate the departement, not the river. Every waterhole registered as fishing place in that departement (the French administrative regions) are good. The link above states clearly that you must have the papers and have paid the fees before you even think to go fishing: Fee is due from the first second you fish.

P.S. Strange that you think a French website would be translated... what an extravagant thought! You're new to France, aren't you.
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P.S. Strange that you think a French website would be translated... what an extravagant thought! You're new to France, aren't you.
Ha ha, very funny!

Yes I only ever hear or see French, spoken, written, or thought.
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If you see me out there in the woods, call the police: it's a kidnapping, no way I am out there of my free will. The message above is an act of selflessness.

The words Haut-Rhin designate the departement, not the river. Every waterhole registered as fishing place in that departement (the French administrative regions) are good. The link above states clearly that you must have the papers and have paid the fees before you even think to go fishing: Fee is due from the first second you fish.

P.S. Strange that you think a French website would be translated... what an extravagant thought! You're new to France, aren't you.
My last name is french, i grew up 6 km from the border yet like the french i refuse to adapt to the language.

You however are an exception to the rule as French refuse to speak any other language or even try ,even when on holidays.

Where other countries at least try to speak the language of the country they visit.

It wouldn't be bad for business if they had a German and English page also on the French site, or is France only occupied by French people only?

Anyway thats of topic, i'm not here to discus my love/hate relationship with the French, i'm here to find out how i can go and fish there since Switzerland and Germany have mad rules.
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Re: Fishing across the border ( France )

I am fairly sure the fish would not think of those rules as 'mad' - certainly if I was a fish, I'd rather live in Switzerland than France.
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Re: Fishing across the border ( France )

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Don't get me started, had a rant about it already once.

People who enjoy to fish agree

I rather be a fish in France, at least there they allow to catch and return me, Here and in Germany ,once you are on the hook your dead.
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Anyway thats of topic, i'm not here to discus my love/hate relationship with the French, i'm here to find out how i can go and fish there since Switzerland and Germany have mad rules.
This is englishforum.ch, dear, you'll do both.
I did my part, the linguistic aspect is yet another fact of life, go for it and copy a link when there is something you don't get.
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