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Old 18.01.2011, 12:38
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My friend & his wife
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were given lists the reasons for denial as: Using their Swiss residence to gain entry to the UK with the intention of overstaying and working illegally?!?
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Any insights??
Since neither Australian nor US passport nationals will "not normally need a visa to come to the United Kingdom for a short visit", according to the UK Border Agency criteria, it looks very much like either your friends are being economic with the ol' verité of past misdeeds regarding past time or conditions of being in the UK, and that this is now coming home to roost.

This will not be just the whim of an immigration officer - there's clearly something on record that takes them out of the "visa not normally needed" category. They required a visa to enter the UK, they didn't have one, they tried to enter the UK, they got their passport anotated, they got bounced. SOP.

Ask your friends for the prequel to this...
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Old 18.01.2011, 12:47
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At the moment it is stalemate, but everyone suffers.
Except the politicians, who should.
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Old 18.01.2011, 12:51
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This will not be just the whim of an immigration officer -
Not wanting to disagree with the entire post but I'd take a calculated guess that the UK border claims the right to refuse entry to anyone non-UK passport holder for any reason they choose. Maybe there is a committment on the grounds of transparency to tell you what the reason is but if it were my border I wouldn't try and produce a list of reasons for non-entry and if I did I'd add as the final one - "because we choose not to".
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Not wanting to disagree with the entire post but I'd take a calculated guess that the UK border claims the right to refuse entry to anyone non-UK passport holder for any reason they choose. Maybe there is a committment on the grounds of transparency to tell you what the reason is but if it were my border I wouldn't try and produce a list of reasons for non-entry and if I did I'd add as the final one - "because we choose not to".
But they gave a very clear and specific reason, didn't they! Let's read the reason given again...

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The paper they were given lists the reasons for denial as: Using their Swiss residence to gain entry to the UK with the intention of overstaying and working illegally?!?
Wife didn't have her B permit yet.
Note that they were not "using their passport" to gain entry, they were "using their Swiss residence".
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Old 18.01.2011, 13:23
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Re: Denied entry into the UK

If there is any doubt that you are lying about your intentions as to why you are entering the UK, I believe that boarder officials have the right to refuse you entry. If they think you may be going to work there, you say you aren't, then they find a CV in your luggage you're scr*wed.

As an Australian whose UK residency visia had just expired I was almost refused entry to the UK. They wanted details of my husband's job in CH and proof of residence in CH. I was freelancing for UK companies at the time from Switzerland so I would have certainly been denied if they looked at my address book and phone calls.
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But they gave a very clear and specific reason, didn't they! Let's read the reason given again...
(You're not a primary school teacher are you?)

I was merely commenting on the likelihood that if for any reason the UK border controls don't want to let you in - they won't. "A whim" sounds like it would fall within that. My comment was to the post I quoted not the OPs complaint (hence the use of quotes).
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For clarity's sake, how much luggage did they have with them, for 3 days?

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For clarity's sake, how much luggage did they have with them, for 3 days?
Two suitcases; the big ones! i know

PS: they're both white

Here is how it went:
Immigration officer asks them where they're going exactly as in naming each place in mind, what's they're going to do, then the money question pops up.
He pulled them aside and told them to go inside a room where somebody would come and ask a few friendly questions.
Husband has been to the uk on many occasions, never overstayed his visa. Wife has never been to the Uk before.
The officer focused more on the wife and asked these specific questions:
Are you working in CH? No. Are you looking for work in CH? No. Did you work when you were living in OZ? No. How about the US? No.
She simply has never had a job

She looks a bit hippy-ish but the reason listed on the paper handed to them listed their intention to seek work in the UK without having the proper documents.
Maybe the officer was Hippy-struck none of us know...

HOnestly, I was a skeptic like many of you are today. I used to often blame the travelers for being stupid and that is the reason they would be denied entry anywhere. Until 2010, when I was going to Canada with a friend of mine, we were pulled aside and asked a few questions, we were then asked to go inside a glass room and surrenderour cell phones to the officers.
These were the questions asked: Do you work? yes. Your friend? he opted for an early retirement.
Neither one of us has ever overstayed in Canada in the past.
The officer called me down after having waited for nearly an hour and told me look: I will ask you a question and I need you to answer me. Of course, I will, what other choice do I have?
Mind you that we have been asked questions regarding our civil status, university, criminal records -neither one of us has any stains- rent, owning a car, owning a house etc Albeit being all irrelevant for immigration purposes...
The officer said this to me: convince me that you're not going to live in Canada illegaly. I luckily had a return ticket to Paris handy from the US within a week. Only then did they let us go...
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