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Old 19.02.2011, 18:33
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Re: Is the internet changing us?

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but for many, internet gives this idea that it doesn't exist anymore, that it doesn't apply anymore.
So you go up to strangers in real life too and ask them which part of their body they wax?

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Someone can be mean, provocative, disrespectful, bully, even stalker and no one will stop him/her.
When a stalker gets stalked they sure start crying like a baby.

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It is us, as a group to put the limits and those limits have to be enforce by those who are in charge of the moderation of a forum, group, etc. If those don't apply the rules, it becomes tolerated and accepted behavior.
Putting my zero hat on that would mean anyone who disagrees with you or does not give into your threats?
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Old 19.02.2011, 18:42
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Re: Is the internet changing us?

I'm not sure if the Internet is the development which has changed society the most--we've been changing ever since the advent of mass media. Surfing our way to stupidity is just the newest version of Neil Postman's theory that we are amusing ourselves to death.
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Old 19.02.2011, 18:45
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Re: Is the internet changing us?

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I sit on it all day, not good. That reminds me to turn off the computer!
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Except I need to post 10 replys before I can start a thread

Alas, none of the ones in Off-Topic count.

You need to make relevant posts in on-topic areas... surely there is something about your time in Switzerland that is usefully sharable in one of the other areas of the forum.
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Old 19.02.2011, 20:34
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Re: Is the internet changing us?

I didn't exist before using EF. I was merely a figment of my imagination.

EF validates my existance and made me a real person.

I definitely never made people smile in real life. Being a Billag Inspector can be hard sometimes.
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Re: Is the internet changing us?

When I think about how easy it is for our kids to find answers to their questions (just google it!), it scares me. For example, the other day my daughter asked me where the egg comes out of the chicken. Well instead of encouraging her to think of a different way of finding an answer to her question, I said "let's google it". It's not the first time we've looked for an answer this way.
Unfortunately, it's just too easy. Kids don't have to "think" anymore about how to find answers or the steps they need to take to find them. I could have encouraged her to actually think. (Go to the library and look through books, ask a farmer or a vet, watch a chicken laying an egg!!!)
Kids are being denied the opportunity to think creatively and problem-solve and use their imagination and wait for things and have patience....

I worry that they'll miss out on a lot of meaningful, real-life experiences.
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Old 20.02.2011, 02:42
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I'm not sure if the Internet is the development which has changed society the most--we've been changing ever since the advent of mass media. Surfing our way to stupidity is just the newest version of Neil Postman's theory that we are amusing ourselves to death.
maybe just after: money, fire, gunpowder, farming.
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surely there is something about your time in Switzerland that is usefully sharable in one of the other areas of the forum.
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just let them hit us with the sales pitch and get it over and done with
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Old 20.02.2011, 15:37
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Re: Is the internet changing us?

The net does change us.. it has made the world a smaller place.
In my time of need, years ago, I found an angel on the net. She was far away and I never met her.
At the time her little one had just gone through open heart surgery and she had posted his story on a cardio-pediatric forum. While searching the net to make some sense of the diagnostic the doctors had just handed us, I found her story and contacted her. From there came a caring friendship. She put me in touch with the help forum, kept me posted on the latest info in regards to congenital heart defects.... and she hugged me, let me cry, and was just there for me when it was the turn of our little one to have open heart surgery. And then.. she let go.. just naturally so..
We have changed with the net, in a good way, angels are closer, as are friends. Just sayin'
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Old 20.02.2011, 16:07
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Re: Is the internet changing us?

A great story and wonderful example of how the internet can be so beneficial.

Sorry if this seems a bit pedantic but it is not the internet did this. It is just a tool. I am sure that you were both already caring people. The internet gave you the opportunity to express that care and develop a friendship.

It provides us the opportunity to express our opinions and interact in many ways that were not available in the past.
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Old 20.02.2011, 16:39
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Re: Is the internet changing us?

IMHO the greater the number of media to communicate the far less of substance way say, feel or experience.

It has already changed us and no doubt as it matures it will change us more,
for good and bad in ways we cant yet imagine.

I believe it somehow detaches us from reality. How many people have logged onto their (ex)partners email account or browsed history or files on someone else's PC, ego surfed or looked for picture of old friends and lovers.

It played a big part in changing Egypt, got people married and is the new arena for attacking countries.

I really can see it will change Film, Music and Gaming business models forever.
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Old 18.03.2011, 15:45
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Is technology warping our lives?

I just want to throw this one out there as itís an interesting topicÖ how are Facebook, texting, Skyping, messaging, forums, twittering etc. changing the way we act as people and families? And do we even realize how much?

First up, Facebook. I personally think it's great for all sorts of reasons, but hate how it robs my precious time, makes us act like voyeurs and how it's changed centuries-old ways of communicating with friends. We shout out to a whole bunch of people as a group and less as individual friends. I never write letters and hardly even email, let alone pick up a phone as I used to. When I do write, I canít stop using smileys and exclamation marks and lol! ; )

What should be public? Is anything private and personal these days? Does anyone care that youíre currently sitting in a particular pub? Divorcees slander one another for all to see. A friend of a friend of a friend even gave a blow by blow account of the moment he found his father lying dead in his lounge (surely this is one to discuss over a pint or a cup of tea with close friends?). On a lighter note, I was on the tram to work one day and was amazed to see a conversation about the amazing ice cream Iíd had for pudding the night before. This feels so weird!

How about when you get friend requests from people you've met once and who you didn't like enough to have swapped phone numbers? (or even people you havenít met! - no agonizing over how to get a girlís number these days - you only need to know someoneís first name and who theyíre friends with). And sometimes, when you invite one set of friends, do you fear that they may post and that you'll upset people who you didn't or couldn't invite? Itís not a big problem, but itís just another example of things getting a bit tricky with modern technology.

Do you have a laptop or mobile on your dinner table, in your bedroom or with you in the loo? When you hear the ping of a text, do you and your partners resist the urge to say 'who was that?' If it's not personal, why would you say it in a personal message? Do you find yourself analyzing the saucy smileys and innocent banter? Did you bother to stop emails from that old dating site? Does any of this make you paranoid and suspicious when you were neither in the first place?!!!!

Skype is great, even better than landline phones because you can choose when youíre on to answer it. I sometimes want to be a rebel, leave my mobile off and go for a walk. I tried deactivating Facebook once. I wanted to read a book , clean my fridge, have my childís lunch ready the night before for a change, give my full attention to the people in my non-virtual life without clicking at the same time. I lasted a day! : (

The French talk about Ďhygiene de vieí - I for one would like a bit more of that and make life simple again (yes, I am a nostalgic old fuddy duddy!!)

Iím not denying technology also does brilliant stuff. Just interested to hear what other people think about thisÖ

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Old 18.03.2011, 15:48
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Re: Is technology warping our lives?

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Old 18.03.2011, 16:46
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Re: Is technology warping our lives?

interesting post. Thanks.

I closed my facebook, was useless for me finally. I prefer to write a good old email to stay in touch with some good friends. (by the way I had no much friends on there, so that helps to close it)
Perhaps I will activate it again in some times.

Twitter ? just using it to have the lastest news from my favorite entertainer : Barrowman and some other informative sites I find useful. I don't use it to post my lastest news....

Skype ? Got an account. Don't use it. Still no friend with who I could talk. Same for msn messenger.
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Old 18.03.2011, 18:45
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Re: Is technology warping our lives?

Thanks!

I use all the technologies you mention either daily or as near as for both business and social purposes.

I have made some good friends and business associates online (via forums and social networks) whom I may never meet physically due to our geographical locations. I do not draw any distinctions between them and the friends or business contacts I know in person.

It has been years since I last wrote or sent a handwritten letter and I can't see that changing anytime soon...

Where friends, family business associates have Skype, then that's how we talk and IM. With them, the landline is history...

It is very easy for the time-sap syndrome to takeover when it comes to Twitter, FaceBook, New Digg and others, even when I am researching for information and not responding to personal messages. Now I have a set daily limit for each to keep the distractions under control because at one point it really was getting outta hand...

I can happily switch off the cellphone and BB for long periods of time without suffering withdrawal symptoms unlike some of my friends and work colleagues.

Much as I love all this techno for communication, information gathering and dissemination, expediency etc - there are times when I want to go back to a less techno filled existence and am actively taking steps to achieve just that over the coming months...
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Old 18.03.2011, 18:46
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Re: Is technology warping our lives?

Hasn't this already been discussed under a thread along the lines of how the internet is changing our lives?
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